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| From | Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: please forthers work together and get rid of java |
| Date | 2016-11-27 05:13 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <20161127051302.672d872c@_> (permalink) |
| References | <ef888744-41de-44bd-b21a-b83093f91aa6@googlegroups.com> |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:38:35 -0800 (PST) polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> wrote: > please! Why? Reliable software takes many thousands of man-hours to develop and debug. I.e., once everyone is on the same sinking ship, no one is going to jump ship to another sinking ship, which will likely sink even faster than the sinking ship they're currently on. Of course, in your case, the other sinking ship has yet to be built. There is nothing to jump onto. What I'm trying to say is that everyone who uses Java has a vested interested in continuing to use Java. They've trained many employees to code using it. They've hired many employees whom program it. They've developed more and more code using it. They've determined how to manage code development and coding mistakes when using it. They've licensed code and libraries coded for it. It's a large investment. They'll lose whatever monies they've invested if they replace it. Therefore, your manager is not going to switch from Forth, C, PL/I, COBOL, Fortran, or whatever to Java, because he has a vested interest in preserving his overpaid job. He doesn't care about what's in your best interest or even the company's best interest. He wants to continue to be overpaid, manage only a few employees or hire an occasional consultant or two, drink lots of free company coffee, spend most of the day talking with other employees about sports, take two hour lunches with alcohol, spend only 15 minutes per day actually working, and finish the day playing basketball using the company facilities. He doesn't care that if your company's code base was ported to C, that it'd be worth hundreds of millions of dollars, if you licensed to your competitors. He doesn't care about opportunity or advancement anymore. He cared about that 10 or 20 years ago when he was younger, hungry, and full of potential. But, climbing the corporate ladder killed that. Now, he's over-promoted and overpaid. Except for his alcoholism, divorce, child support payments, and dual house payments, he's happy. He only cares about not losing his exceptionally easy, good paying job in a rough economy. So, from your manager's perspective, porting your code base to another language only introduces coding bugs, financial risks, and a political backlash that could get him fired. Rod Pemberton
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please forthers work together and get rid of java polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 00:38 -0800
Re: please forthers work together and get rid of java Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2016-11-27 05:13 -0500
Re: please forthers work together and get rid of java polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 00:27 -0800
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