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Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer?

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:05:25 +0200 (CEST)
albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) wrote:

> In article <d8aff20f-48eb-4bc9-8cf8-9b05311ba238@googlegroups.com>,
> Manuel Rodriguez  <aa5@gmx.net> wrote:

<OT>

> >Until now, there is much speculation about what Nikola Tesla did
> >with his m= ystery electric tower. Some people said, that Tesla tap
> >into freeenergy, Wi= kipedia says about the Wardenclyffe Tower that
> >is was a apparatus for trans= mitting energy.=20
> >
> >For building such a device two problems have to be overcome: first,
> >the inv= ention of a logic gate (called squid device) is a must
> >have, which operates=
> > on zero celvin temperature with supra-conductivity (Patent Number
> > US613809=
> >). The second invention is a programming-language for controlling
> >the machi= ne. And here comes Forth into the game. Forth is a
> >stack-based programming = language for building a domain-specific
> >language for controlling everything= . The programming of a quantum
> >computer is not easy. The first principle is= , that programs are
> >data and data are programs, there is no difference betw= een them.
> >
> >So my question to the comp.lang.forth community is: Did Nikola Tesla
> >invent= ed the Quantum computer?  
> 
> As a physicist and a computer expert I would say: "bunk".
> 
> Tesla was short on theoretical explanations of his devices, leaving
> a lot of room for speculation by pot heads. This is a good example.
> At the time of Tesla's demise the very idea of a mechanical computing
> device was in its infancy, quantum computing was under the horizon.
> 
> (Mechanical devices in this context include electromechanical
> and electronic devices. After all, a Pentium could be rebuild in
> 18-th century clock work fashion, as they did with the Babbage
> machine.)
> 

I agree that that Tesla developing Quantum computing is most unlikely.

As for the idea that it is possible to create things prior to the
development of scientific theory, that has been done thousands, perhaps
millions, of times throughout history.  There was the Baghdad battery
around 250BC before static electricity was discovered by Thales of
Miletus around 585BC. There was also Antikythera mechanism which
predates physics, mechanics, computing, and clockwork mechanisms by 14
to 18 centuries.  Etc.

And, I don't follow the rationale of Manuel's whereby one needs a 1)
squid device and 2) a domain specific language, such a Forth, to create
a wireless power source, as suggested by Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower.

As for Wardenclyffe Tower, we've all seen photographs of Tesla holding
lit light-bulbs in his hand powered by high-frequency AC induction, as
well Tesla sitting in front of high-voltage Tesla coils discharging
massive arcs of electricity.  What most people don't know, is that you
can use the earth as the return path in AC circuits, instead of using
two wires.  This is called "single-wire earth return."  You can read
about it on Wikipedia.  Today, most understand that broadcasting radio
frequencies also transmits a miniscule amount of energy, but Tesla was
working before or during the development of electromagnetic theory.  In
Tesla's case, he was working with high-voltage Tesla coils and
high-frequency AC.  High frequency AC is directly related to radio
frequencies and he was aware of the work of others on electromagnetic
waves and radiotelegraphy.  If you combine the ideas together, you have
a wireless source of high-power energy.  So, it's in the realm of
possibility that Wardenclyffe Tower was supposed to be either a
high-frequency Tesla coil for wireless transmission of AC power via
long-range electromagnetic fields and AC induction, or perhaps a radio
tower for wireless transmission of high-power energy via
radio-frequencies.


Rod Pemberton

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Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? Manuel Rodriguez <aa5@gmx.net> - 2016-10-16 05:30 -0700
  Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-16 15:05 +0200
    Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? Manuel Rodriguez <aa5@gmx.net> - 2016-10-16 06:44 -0700
      Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-16 18:34 +0200
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    Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2016-10-16 17:16 -0400
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