Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME

From	anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME
Date	2015-05-30 11:56 +0000
Organization	Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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"Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> writes:
>on 29/05/2015 21:47:39, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>> https://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/header-ideas.html
>
>Now I'm thoroughly confused. I've implemented, with a few minor
>modifications, the ideas in that post. Is it smart or intelligent?

If COMPILE, appends the behaviour to the current definition that
EXECUTE performs (i.e., COMPILE, does what the standard specifies),
it's intelligent.  If not, it's "smart"; one could also say "buggy",
but I guess fans of this behaviour would not use this term.

> (An
>aside; can we pick names that aren't synonyms please?)

I did not pick "smart", and nobody was writing about "smart COMPILE,",
when I wrote about "intelligent COMPILE," (first in 1997); "smart
COMPILE," was first used synonymous to "intelligent COMPILE, starting
in 2000 in my records <86a74g$ntm$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>
<cgph3o$cir$1@hercules.btinternet.com> ...

Then Bernd Paysan started to use "smart COMPILE," it for a COMPILE,
that does not behave as specified in the standard.  I thought that's
quite appropriate, because it reminds me immediately of "state-smart
words" (which also work in the common case, and act up in uncommon
cases, and then their defenders try to blame the uncommon case instead
of the state-smart word), but I guess it might be different for a
native speaker; so I would be fine with a different term, but you have
to convince Bernd Paysan.

- anton
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COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 12:48 +0100
  Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-05-29 14:15 +0100
    Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 15:23 +0100
  Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-29 13:25 +0000
    Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 15:22 +0100
      Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-29 14:45 +0000
        Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 17:09 +0100
          Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 17:13 +0100
          Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-29 17:21 +0000
            Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 19:36 +0100
        Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-29 22:47 +0200
          Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-29 23:23 +0100
            Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-30 02:03 +0200
              Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-30 20:58 +0100
            Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-30 11:56 +0000
              Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-30 13:34 +0000
              Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-30 20:54 +0100
                Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2015-06-01 17:34 -0700
                Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-02 15:54 +0100
              Re: COMPILE, and :NONAME Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-30 23:45 +0200

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