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| First post | 2019-12-31 20:08 -0800 |
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Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-31 20:08 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-12-31 23:50 -0500
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:28 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:49 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:26 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 04:34 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:56 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 05:04 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:18 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:21 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:26 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:19 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:24 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 14:56 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:06 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 15:44 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:54 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 08:07 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-01 14:19 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 15:28 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-02 11:06 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 10:19 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 13:33 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-02 13:55 +0000
Raku (Was: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 14:48 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 15:03 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 06:18 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? m.nasim85@gmail.com - 2020-01-02 01:26 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-05 19:32 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 12:25 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-07 00:33 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 01:11 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:32 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 10:08 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:24 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:30 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:42 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 12:47 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 21:20 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 21:53 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:01 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:22 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 22:31 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 00:27 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 08:13 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:33 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:38 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:49 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:38 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:31 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:44 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 19:54 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-11 10:24 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 14:23 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-21 04:21 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-21 05:06 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:59 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 19:21 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:36 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-01-06 18:02 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 10:55 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-06 23:34 -0500
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:30 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-05 16:30 -0500
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 02:07 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 07:57 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:03 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:11 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-07 10:09 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:12 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 11:09 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 13:45 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 13:06 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:14 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:27 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 17:53 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:55 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 05:19 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 19:11 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 19:09 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 20:18 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 20:00 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 07:02 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 00:32 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:38 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:09 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:48 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:57 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 11:02 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:09 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:45 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:54 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:13 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:35 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:38 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:44 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:49 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:59 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:03 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:21 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:35 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:46 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 15:11 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 06:41 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:15 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:11 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:19 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:40 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:04 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:05 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:13 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:16 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:25 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:26 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:21 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:25 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:31 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:33 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 13:21 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 09:16 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 04:28 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:36 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-13 04:39 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:22 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 05:10 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 15:10 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 07:31 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:34 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:59 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:32 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 17:17 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:13 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:19 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:22 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:29 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:34 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:40 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:42 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:56 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:19 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:21 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:25 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:46 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:02 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:04 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:25 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 06:37 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 10:49 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 01:15 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-02-04 01:48 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 02:29 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 03:05 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:07 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:59 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:51 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:19 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:47 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:51 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:35 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 21:48 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 12:54 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:38 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:30 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:40 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:47 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 03:52 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 04:00 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-14 14:20 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:21 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:50 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:14 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 14:23 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:16 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:13 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:43 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:43 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 18:04 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:31 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 21:18 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:53 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:36 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 20:56 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:04 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:05 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:43 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:46 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:51 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:58 -0800
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:14 +0100
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 13:03 +0000
Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-21 16:44 +0100
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-12-31 20:08 -0800 |
| Subject | Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? |
| Message-ID | <quh608$321$1@dont-email.me> |
Hi C Guys, Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop me?), but does the default index for C arrays start at zero or one? Many thanks, -T
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| Date | 2019-12-31 23:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <quh8es$1b33$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #148634 |
T wrote:
> Hi C Guys,
>
> Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop
> me?), but does the default index for C arrays start
> at zero or one?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T
Toss the subject of your post into Google,
and it's practically the first returned result.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming/Arrays_and_strings
"int point[6]={0,0,1,0,0,0};
Arrays in C are indexed starting at 0,
as opposed to starting at 1.
The first element of the array above is point[0].
The index to the last value in the array is the array size minus one.
In the example above the subscripts run from 0 through 5.
C does not guarantee bounds checking on array accesses.
"
There are other languages that do check bounds, at some "cost".
In C, it probably pays at some point in your career,
to look with a debugger or use some other method, to
see how allocations are laid out, and what risks you
run with being careless... Various packing behaviors
are undoubtedly covered by the Standard, but there's nothing
like learning up close and personal, how storage of
these things work. My experience with small programming
tasks at work, was most of the time it was "now
why did it do that?" when it came to the topic
of packing things. Talking to the real software
guys in the group, they could justify why it did
what it did.
It's sorta like writing answers in an Economics 100
class, where everything you write up is marked "wrong"
by the marker. But somehow, you still manage to pass
the course. Some topics have no predictability at all.
Paul
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 03:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ef6ab156-80a6-4df0-8c08-1881ad7cc3e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #148634 |
W dniu środa, 1 stycznia 2020 05:08:49 UTC+1 użytkownik T napisał: > Hi C Guys, > > Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop > me?), but does the default index for C arrays start > at zero or one? > > Many thanks, > -T if posting stupid questions does stop you you may become a troll that makes crap of this group ..we already have some annoying idiot here whom nothing stopped from public his religious crap. comp.programkming is mass floded by another one (which will go stright to hell imo) besides you may ask extremaly lame questions from time to time but the thing is simply not to do too much of it
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 03:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b43da8a0-3d2a-48fc-941f-14fe4b271bb1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #148637 |
W dniu środa, 1 stycznia 2020 12:28:19 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał: > W dniu środa, 1 stycznia 2020 05:08:49 UTC+1 użytkownik T napisał: > > Hi C Guys, > > > > Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop > > me?), but does the default index for C arrays start > > at zero or one? > > > > Many thanks, > > -T > > if posting stupid questions does stop you you may become a troll that makes crap of this group ..we already have some annoying idiot here whom nothing stopped from public his religious crap. comp.programkming is mass floded by another one (which will go stright to hell imo) > > besides you may ask extremaly lame questions from time to time but the thing is simply not to do too much of it note in fact this is more on amount than on kind (as hegel says (?) quantity transits into quality) anybody sorta asks and talk specific questions, and variaty, diversity is good (unles it is something really braindamaging, iq 40) but the monopolisation by some qtupid crap becomes somm very bad and harmfull to the potentially scientific or entertaining (etc) aura of the potential blossom of this group as for now youre ok
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 13:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qui35j$3m0$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148637 |
>> Hi C Guys, >> Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop >> me?), but does the default index for C arrays start >> at zero or one? >> Many thanks, >> -T > if posting stupid questions does stop you you may become a troll that makes crap of this group LOL, a troll calls another troll a troll.
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 04:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c90c269f-c6fc-4ce3-9e8f-f55bed76579c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #148639 |
W dniu środa, 1 stycznia 2020 13:26:34 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał: > >> Hi C Guys, > >> Not to ask to stupid a question (when does that stop > >> me?), but does the default index for C arrays start > >> at zero or one? > >> Many thanks, > >> -T > > > if posting stupid questions does stop you you may become a troll that makes crap of this group > > LOL, a troll calls another troll a troll. lol, crazy bonita says that you come here with your primitive attacks like you would live in jungle, then write out your primitive postulates that you belive c++ is better than you call me trll again... objectively i was quite sure you 10 times more suitable to be named a troll than me (at least for some days as this trolling atatck becoume contagious and you may put someone into trolling state just by trolling him like you troll me anyway, to be honest i think your to far not enough intelligent to talk with me..youre citizem of comp.lang.c++ and youre far behind there ;c (what i mostly do wrong i agrre is a lot of mistypes and that kind of errors, but that would be mostly all)
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 13:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qui4tf$uis$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148640 |
> you come here with your primitive attacks like you would live in jungle, then write out your primitive postulates that you belive c++ is better than you call me trll again... You Think that your tastes regarding computer-languages is rationally justified; it isn't. C is an ugly language because you have to write a huge amount of boilerplate-code with it. if you use C++ correctly there's much less code to write and it is much more maintainable. And that's not trollery. C is just a good language to learn lowlevel systems-programming. In practice it should be mostly abandonned.
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 05:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2512f4e1-b23b-4679-9333-ce7bb5d77dd2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #148641 |
W dniu środa, 1 stycznia 2020 13:56:24 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał: > > you come here with your primitive attacks like you would live in jungle, then write out your primitive postulates that you belive c++ is better than you call me trll again... > > You Think that your tastes regarding computer-languages is rationally > justified; it isn't. C is an ugly language because you have to write > a huge amount of boilerplate-code with it. if you use C++ correctly > there's much less code to write and it is much more maintainable. > And that's not trollery. > C is just a good language to learn lowlevel systems-programming. > In practice it should be mostly abandonned. you write out your belifs, anybody know you do that it was noticed here that some people who answered to you including me knows it is strictly untrue technically you should give exemple and prooof on it shoiwng some app taht is well written in c++ against well written c code and compare that boilerplate and your fale opinion that c does not allo wto structurize code in beautifull clean way - but im bored to do that, you probably hust should limit your mania of repaeating things becouse otherwise you will flod this group with dumb content of low iq lewel and we gotta better things to do here wana more leisure talc you could find me and my group of pirates/renergades here https://bramka.pirc.pl/bramka/grunge/?addons=mcolor
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 14:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qui66k$rju$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148642 |
>> You Think that your tastes regarding computer-languages is rationally >> justified; it isn't. C is an ugly language because you have to write >> a huge amount of boilerplate-code with it. if you use C++ correctly >> there's much less code to write and it is much more maintainable. >> And that's not trollery. >> C is just a good language to learn lowlevel systems-programming. >> In practice it should be mostly abandonned. > you write out your belifs, ... No, that are facts. OOP, RAII, templates and exceptions minimize code and make it more maintainable. Because you ask a lot of dumb questions and make stupid proposals to enhance C you're disqualified to join the conversation on that.
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| From | Bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 13:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <%11PF.183820$GH7.41120@fx18.am4> |
| In reply to | #148643 |
On 01/01/2020 13:18, Bonita Montero wrote: >>> You Think that your tastes regarding computer-languages is rationally >>> justified; it isn't. C is an ugly language because you have to write >>> a huge amount of boilerplate-code with it. if you use C++ correctly >>> there's much less code to write and it is much more maintainable. >>> And that's not trollery. >>> C is just a good language to learn lowlevel systems-programming. >>> In practice it should be mostly abandonned. > >> you write out your belifs, ... > > No, that are facts. OOP, RAII, templates and exceptions minimize > code and make it more maintainable. So why do I find it impossible to understand any of your C++ code? How easily can someone take one of your C++ programs, and convert it it into another language?
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 14:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qui6ls$ps9$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148645 |
>> No, that are facts. OOP, RAII, templates and exceptions minimize >> code and make it more maintainable. > So why do I find it impossible to understand any of your C++ code? Because you're not skilled enough. > How easily can someone take one of your C++ programs, and convert > it it into another language? That depends if the target language matches the features of C++. Transferring from C++ to Java f.e. is mostly quite easy; but usally no one wants to transfer code from one language to another.
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| From | Bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 13:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <L%0PF.183819$GH7.141109@fx18.am4> |
| In reply to | #148641 |
On 01/01/2020 12:56, Bonita Montero wrote: >> you come here with your primitive attacks like you would live in >> jungle, then write out your primitive postulates that you belive c++ >> is better than you call me trll again... > > You Think that your tastes regarding computer-languages is rationally > justified; it isn't. C is an ugly language because you have to write > a huge amount of boilerplate-code with it. if you use C++ correctly > there's much less code to write and it is much more maintainable. Rubbish. C is not pretty but can look decent given some effort and restraint. But every C++ program I've seen has been pig-ugly. There are so many features available to use that C++ programmers can't help using most of them, whatever the program. As for the boiler-plate of C, that just doesn't happen in real, properly written programs. Only in stupid comparisons on usenet. Some challenge involves using a Dict type (an unordered collection of key:value pairs), the C version now needs a badly written Dict implementation of hundreds of lines, while the C++ pulls in a library. The exact library that was the reason for the challenge: to show how much 'better' the C++ is. In a real program, if the C really did need that Dict type, it would also use a pre-written library which has been carefully designed and not just thrown together for one task. Or more likely, it would use a different approach altogether. C might be used to craft a Dict implementation for another language like Python. In that situation, it would be too tempting for a C++ programming not to try using its built-in Dict to try to implement Python's. But it wouldn't work; there is too much mismatch.
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 14:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qui6i6$ps9$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148644 |
> But every C++ program I've seen has been pig-ugly. That's rather a matter of taste on your side. > As for the boiler-plate of C, that just doesn't happen in real, properly > written programs. ... It happens. You don't have such convenient things like the STL in C. Or you have to do much errorcode-evaluation whereas in C++ you simply catch the known exceptions in a central place and that's all. > Some challenge involves using a Dict type (an unordered collection of > key:value pairs), the C version now needs a badly written Dict > implementation of hundreds of lines, while the C++ pulls in a library. std::unordered_map<key, value> ... only a few lines of code. Impossible to have that as convenient in C.
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| From | Bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 14:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <iq2PF.201659$Ca2.18680@fx10.am4> |
| In reply to | #148646 |
On 01/01/2020 13:24, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> But every C++ program I've seen has been pig-ugly.
>
> That's rather a matter of taste on your side.
>
>> As for the boiler-plate of C, that just doesn't happen in real,
>> properly written programs. ...
>
> It happens. You don't have such convenient things like the STL in C.
> Or you have to do much errorcode-evaluation whereas in C++ you simply
> catch the known exceptions in a central place and that's all.
>
>> Some challenge involves using a Dict type (an unordered collection of
>> key:value pairs), the C version now needs a badly written Dict
>> implementation of hundreds of lines, while the C++ pulls in a library.
>
> std::unordered_map<key, value> ... only a few lines of code.
> Impossible to have that as convenient in C.
But you just don't use such data structures in C. I don't anyway. The
language encourages you to keep things simple.
And in C++, it's just too much syntax:
#include <unordered_map>
#include <string>
...
std::unordered_map<std::string, int> wordMap({
{"First", 1},
{"Second", 2},
{"Third", 3}});
for (std::pair<std::string, int> element : wordMap)
std::cout << element.first << " :: " << element.second << std::endl;
When I use such a Dict, I use it like this:
wordmap := ["First":1, "Second":2, "Third":3]
println wordmap
Notice no 'boilerplate'. This is the complaint you made about C, but C++
has it too, and in spades.
My example is from a script language, but I'm in the process of making
that available in the /low-level/ systems language I normally use in
place of C. There, there will be a small amount of boilerplate, and it
will look like this:
var wordmap := ["First":1, "Second":2, "Third":3]
println wordmap
Spot the difference. THIS is how I'd like to use a Dict type in any
language, not how it's done in C++.
(BTW this version uses dynamic types, so both keys and values can be of
any types, and can be mixed.)
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 16:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <quich0$ao1$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148650 |
> And in C++, it's just too much syntax:
> #include <unordered_map>
> #include <string>
> ...
> std::unordered_map<std::string, int> wordMap({
> {"First", 1},
> {"Second", 2},
> {"Third", 3}});
>
> for (std::pair<std::string, int> element : wordMap)
for( auto &element : wordMap )
> std::cout << element.first << " :: " << element.second << std::endl;
> When I use such a Dict, I use it like this:
>
> wordmap := ["First":1, "Second":2, "Third":3]
> println wordmap
We're comparing C and C++, and not whatever language. These even higher
abstraction languages are usually magnitudes slower than C++; that's the
price of a comfortable language. But there's no language like C++ with a
similary good ratio between comfort and performance.
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| From | Bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f73PF.177678$hQ6.19356@fx32.am4> |
| In reply to | #148651 |
On 01/01/2020 15:06, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> And in C++, it's just too much syntax:
>> #include <unordered_map>
>> #include <string>
>> ...
>> std::unordered_map<std::string, int> wordMap({
>> {"First", 1},
>> {"Second", 2},
>> {"Third", 3}});
>>
>> for (std::pair<std::string, int> element : wordMap)
> for( auto &element : wordMap )
>> std::cout << element.first << " :: " << element.second << std::endl;
>> When I use such a Dict, I use it like this:
>>
>> wordmap := ["First":1, "Second":2, "Third":3]
>> println wordmap
>
> We're comparing C and C++, and not whatever language.
You're moaning at C because it can take more code to do a task. I'm
saying C++ is not exactly concise either.
Even when something is built-in and ready-programmed, an excruciating
amount of fiddly syntax is needed to make use of it, enough to dominate
whatever it is your code is trying to do.
And in C, if I did write a library to emulate a string:int dict, it
might look like this:
#include "dictsi.h"
...
DictSI wordmap = make_dictsi("First",1, "Second",2", "Third",3,
NULL);
print_dictsi(wordmap);
...
free_dictsi(wordmap);
Which is not too onerous, and actually cleaner than than the C++.
These even higher
> abstraction languages are usually magnitudes slower than C++; that's the
> price of a comfortable language.
That can be an issue. Although with complicated operations such as Dict
lookups, in pretty much all cases it will be executing native code, so
the difference is not as great as you might think.
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 16:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <quifam$2fs$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148653 |
>> We're comparing C and C++, and not whatever language.
> You're moaning at C because it can take more code to do a task. I'm
> saying C++ is not exactly concise either.
It's usually a lot of work to match the same functionality and
performance. Specializing a templated class to a datatype is
usually a line of code. In C there's nothing similar; if you
want to match the same performance, you would have to specialize
everything on your own.
> Even when something is built-in and ready-programmed, an excruciating
> amount of fiddly syntax is needed to make use of it, enough to dominate
> whatever it is your code is trying to do.
There's nothging excruciating; it's just a matter of exercise.
> #include "dictsi.h"
> ...
> DictSI wordmap = make_dictsi("First",1, "Second",2", "Third",3,
> NULL);
>
> print_dictsi(wordmap);
> ...
> free_dictsi(wordmap);
There's no dictsi.h that matches std::unordered_map<key, value>.
You would have to write it on your own for every datatype to match
the performance and functionality of C++.
> That can be an issue. Although with complicated operations such as Dict
> lookups, in pretty much all cases it will be executing native code, so
> the difference is not as great as you might think.
You're a dreamer.
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| From | chad <cdalten@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 08:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ed75027d-d123-4499-be54-544146903832@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #148654 |
First we had to go through the religious diatribe with Rick. Now we seemed to blessed with Bonita trying to interject the superiority of C into every other thread.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 14:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnr0pak5.221.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #148641 |
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| From | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-01 15:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <quia9l$h16$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #148648 |
>> C is just a good language to learn lowlevel systems-programming. >> In practice it should be mostly abandonned. > I'm working on abandoning it for ASM. I ... might be doing things > wrong. :) Ok, C is a better choice then. But the gap between Asm and C isn't so large as between C and C++.
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