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Is there anyone who can recommend some Good C language Development Tools?

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#12067 — Is there anyone who can recommend some Good C language Development Tools?

From	Elisa <yuan.plateau@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-24 21:18 -0700
Subject	Is there anyone who can recommend some Good C language Development Tools?
Message-ID	<ab1ac836-4eca-4ac6-83eb-ccf46bfefcb4@q35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>

I remember that I have used a tool which is very good ,its logo is
like a rhombic-square style,and four sides are four different
color,but I forget the software's name , is there anyone who have used
it ?? Can you tell me ? Thanks so much !

I do not like to use visual studio ,its installation cost too many
time

but there is so less resource about CygWin , MinGW ,Code Warrior in
Chinese , Who knows where can I download them?

Thanks !!

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#12072

From	Devin Chen <dummyhuan@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-24 22:49 -0700
Message-ID	<8404115.955.1319521766539.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36>
In reply to	#12067

do you mean Code::Blocks?

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#12073

From	Elisa <yuan.plateau@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-25 00:26 -0700
Message-ID	<47c078e1-0efd-45b7-bbaf-c2c0337c88bc@p20g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12072

On 10月25日, 下午1时49分, Devin Chen <dummyh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> do you mean Code::Blocks?

I am not sure ,but I went to the Code::Blocks' Website and download it
with installing .
I see this : http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/workspace
the logo in the first content row looks like very much....
I think maybe the Code::Blocks have changed its version ^^ and logo

Thanks ,Devin , Thank you very much~

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#12095

From	falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk)
Date	2011-10-25 19:55 +0000
Message-ID	<j87471$sa7$3@blue-new.rahul.net>
In reply to	#12067

Good C language development tools?

I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.

Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.

-- 
	-Ed Falk, falk@despams.r.us.com
	http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

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#12116

From	Elisa <yuan.plateau@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-26 02:28 -0700
Message-ID	<90cea0f4-0499-4595-a7cd-00a9bc744763@k38g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12095

On Oct 26, 3:55 am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
> Good C language development tools?
>
> I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
>
> Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.
>
> --
>         -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com
>        http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

the command line?! you mean the DOS command line , right?
No matter how , I think you are right , I should free myself !!!~

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#12118

From	James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date	2011-10-26 06:43 -0400
Message-ID	<j88o9c$jih$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#12116

On 10/26/2011 05:28 AM, Elisa wrote:
> On Oct 26, 3:55�am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>> Good C language development tools?
>>
>> I use vi, cc, and make. �Anything else just gets in the way.
>>
>> Free yourself! �Embrace the command line.
...
> the command line?! you mean the DOS command line , right?

Perhaps, if vi has been ported to DOS, which I suppose is quite
possible. However, I think it more likely he's talking about the command
line on a more competently designed OS, probably one similar to UNIX.
-- 
James Kuyper

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#12119

From	Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten>
Date	2011-10-26 08:30 -0400
Message-ID	<r3vfa7lmu5jvppkg3q0q9s5ja6v3osf3m6@4ax.com>
In reply to	#12118

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:43:57 -0400, James Kuyper
<jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 10/26/2011 05:28 AM, Elisa wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 3:55?am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>>> Good C language development tools?
>>>
>>> I use vi, cc, and make. ?Anything else just gets in the way.
>>>
>>> Free yourself! ?Embrace the command line.
>...
>> the command line?! you mean the DOS command line , right?
>
>Perhaps, if vi has been ported to DOS, which I suppose is quite
>possible.

Oh heck yes. <http://www.vim.org/download.php> I'm pretty sure there
were other flavors besides vim, back in the day, but vim is the go-to
nowadays. The port-ability of vi is one of its strengths. I recall
building one for CP/M with BDS C back in the Paleolithic.

-- 
Rich Webb     Norfolk, VA

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#12128

From	Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
Date	2011-10-27 00:28 +0300
Message-ID	<87d3djphm2.fsf@bazspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to	#12119

Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> writes:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:43:57 -0400, James Kuyper
> <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> >On 10/26/2011 05:28 AM, Elisa wrote:
> >> On Oct 26, 3:55?am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
> >>> Good C language development tools?
> >>>
> >>> I use vi, cc, and make. ?Anything else just gets in the way.
> >>>
> >>> Free yourself! ?Embrace the command line.
> >...
> >> the command line?! you mean the DOS command line , right?
> >
> >Perhaps, if vi has been ported to DOS, which I suppose is quite
> >possible.
> 
> Oh heck yes. <http://www.vim.org/download.php> I'm pretty sure there
> were other flavors besides vim, back in the day, but vim is the go-to
> nowadays. The port-ability of vi is one of its strengths. I recall
> building one for CP/M with BDS C back in the Paleolithic.

The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
portable enough.

Phil
-- 
Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity
-- Dennis Ritchie (1941-2011), Unix Co-Creator

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#12181

From	Esa Lakaniemi <esalaka@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-28 16:36 +0300
Message-ID	<4eaaafd6$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to	#12128

On 27.10.2011 00:28, Phil Carmody wrote:
> The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
> know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
> escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
> as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
> portable enough.
> 
> Phil

Amusingly enough, I believe vi isn't required to support arrow keys in
insert mode, so you shouldn't be attempting to use them.

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#12247

From	Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date	2011-10-29 07:42 -0700
Message-ID	<e1357321-5d10-47c0-b3f6-030cdba54b80@4g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12181

On Oct 28, 2:36 pm, Esa Lakaniemi <esal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27.10.2011 00:28, Phil Carmody wrote:
>
> > The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
> > know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
> > escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
> > as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
> > portable enough.
>
> > Phil
>
> Amusingly enough, I believe vi isn't required to support arrow keys in
> insert mode, so you shouldn't be attempting to use them.

there's a standard for vi?

--
"VI VI VI the editor of the beast"

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#12252

From	James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date	2011-10-29 14:23 -0400
Message-ID	<j8hga3$39s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#12247

On 10/29/2011 10:42 AM, Nick Keighley wrote:
> On Oct 28, 2:36�pm, Esa Lakaniemi <esal...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>> Amusingly enough, I believe vi isn't required to support arrow keys in
>> insert mode, so you shouldn't be attempting to use them.
> 
> there's a standard for vi?

Yes, it's one of the Unix standard command line utilities; it's
currently specified by IEEE Std 1003.1-2008.
-- 
James Kuyper

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#12256

From	Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date	2011-10-29 11:54 -0700
Message-ID	<lnr51vk4rs.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>
In reply to	#12247

Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> writes:
> On Oct 28, 2:36 pm, Esa Lakaniemi <esal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 27.10.2011 00:28, Phil Carmody wrote:
>>
>> > The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
>> > know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
>> > escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
>> > as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
>> > portable enough.
>>
>> > Phil
>>
>> Amusingly enough, I believe vi isn't required to support arrow keys in
>> insert mode, so you shouldn't be attempting to use them.
>
> there's a standard for vi?

Yes, POSIX.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#12226

From	RabbitHaskell@yahoo.com
Date	2011-10-29 08:50 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnjanfj4.t7.eggs@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to	#12128

On 2011-10-26, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
> know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
> escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
> as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
> portable enough.

Arrow keys don't always work, but I've never met a vi that didn't accept
H, J, K, and L. Stick to the home row and remember that insert is a
command, not the default mode. If you want to move around the file, you
should be in command mode and using the movement commands--it's more
efficient like that, anyway.

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#12241

From	Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
Date	2011-10-29 17:28 +0300
Message-ID	<87y5w3lvnk.fsf@bazspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to	#12226

RabbitHaskell@yahoo.com writes:
> On 2011-10-26, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
> > know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
> > escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
> > as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
> > portable enough.
> 
> Arrow keys don't always work, but I've never met a vi that didn't accept
> H, J, K, and L.

You're certainly right that it accepts H, J, K, and L. It of course inserts
them, which is as much a failure to move around as an escape followed by a
pile of line noise.

> Stick to the home row and remember that insert is a
> command, not the default mode. If you want to move around the file, you
> should be in command mode 

Nonsense. I should be in an editor which permits me to move the cursor
whenever I want. Fortunately that's almost every editor in the world,
so I don't feel too restricted by that constraint.

> and using the movement commands--it's more
> efficient like that, anyway.

Only if you drink the vi koolaid. You're coming over as someone who's not
read /The Inmates are Ruling the Asylum/.

Phil
-- 
Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity
-- Dennis Ritchie (1941-2011), Unix Co-Creator

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#12243

From	Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date	2011-10-29 07:45 -0700
Message-ID	<f732077d-7b1d-4d02-8366-1c996062c6ad@o5g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12241

On Oct 29, 3:28 pm, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> RabbitHask...@yahoo.com writes:
> > On 2011-10-26, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > The fact that when I press an arrow key on a strange system I don't
> > > know whether it will move the insertion cursor by one place or will
> > > escape from that mode and treat the rest of the sequence of characters
> > > as a mysterious incantation has always made me consider vi-alikes not
> > > portable enough.
>
> > Arrow keys don't always work, but I've never met a vi that didn't accept
> > H, J, K, and L.
>
> You're certainly right that it accepts H, J, K, and L. It of course inserts
> them, which is as much a failure to move around as an escape followed by a
> pile of line noise.
>
> > Stick to the home row and remember that insert is a
> > command, not the default mode. If you want to move around the file, you
> > should be in command mode
>
> Nonsense. I should be in an editor which permits me to move the cursor
> whenever I want. Fortunately that's almost every editor in the world,
> so I don't feel too restricted by that constraint.
>
> > and using the movement commands--it's more
> > efficient like that, anyway.
>
> Only if you drink the vi koolaid. You're coming over as someone who's not
> read /The Inmates are Ruling the Asylum/.

to be fair vi isn't aimed at the average user, which appear to be what
TIARTA is talking about

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#12144

From	Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date	2011-10-27 03:01 -0700
Message-ID	<ead6b9c5-78ef-4b54-aa30-4264ed1e0fae@n38g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12116

On Oct 26, 10:28 am, Elisa <yuan.plat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 3:55 am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:

> > Good C language development tools?
>
> > I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
>
> > Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.

move mountains with tweezers. Why not go the whole hog and use ed?

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#12153

From	Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net>
Date	2011-10-27 13:02 -0700
Message-ID	<86ipnakxt6.fsf@zipcon.net>
In reply to	#12144

Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> writes:

> On Oct 26, 10:28 am, Elisa <yuan.plat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 3:55 am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>
>> > Good C language development tools?
>>
>> > I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
>>
>> > Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.
>
> move mountains with tweezers. Why not go the whole hog and use ed?

Grumpf.  GUIs are a Cadillac.  The command line is a truck.  If you want
to get work done, use the truck.

-- Patrick

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#12166

From	Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date	2011-10-28 00:31 -0700
Message-ID	<3827baa7-2ea5-48ae-aa46-57685188f31f@q13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12153

On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, Patrick Scheible <k...@zipcon.net> wrote:
> Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > On Oct 26, 10:28 am, Elisa <yuan.plat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 26, 3:55 am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>
> >> > Good C language development tools?
>
> >> > I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
>
> >> > Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.
>
> > move mountains with tweezers. Why not go the whole hog and use ed?
>
> Grumpf.  GUIs are a Cadillac.  The command line is a truck.  If you want
> to get work done, use the truck.

despite your prejudices there are millions of peopel getting work done
using guis. vi is not the command line.

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#12127

From	Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
Date	2011-10-27 00:24 +0300
Message-ID	<87hb2vphtg.fsf@bazspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to	#12095

falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) writes:
> Good C language development tools?
> 
> I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
> 
> Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.

Amen. I often say "if it looks good, then it wasted your time by
making you look at it". (Or less explicily "if you notice the
interface, it has failed".)

Not that command lines are perfect, but the fact that my dwm session
contains more than 90% terminals, it's clear my own preference lies
there. (I have one conkerer window (a keyboard- driven browser), and a
perl/tk tool I wrote myself to help me find anagrams, the rest are
xterm or rxvt.)

Phil
-- 
Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity
-- Dennis Ritchie (1941-2011), Unix Co-Creator

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#12148

From	Bill Reid <hormelfree@gmail.com>
Date	2011-10-27 07:26 -0700
Message-ID	<266041cd-7b8f-40ba-8074-5bc156ad5c2b@s11g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#12095

On Oct 25, 12:55 pm, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>
> Good C language development tools?
>
> I use vi, cc, and make.  Anything else just gets in the way.
>
You mean like a linker?  You really ARE hardcore...

> Free yourself!  Embrace the command line.
>
Actually, right off the bat I can't see the big
advantage using vi rather than say "Notepad", but
the truth is I've always been more than satisfied
with the dedicated code editors that come with
the various development packages.

Their version of "make", now that's a somewhat
different story...you always have to guess what,
where, when, and how they've decided code will
go into the thing.  Some are basically unusable
as a result, others are OK and actually a big
help at times once you figure out what you need to
do and when to do it...

---
William Ernest Reid

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