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| Started by | Ya Shou <shouyatf@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2011-09-24 04:06 -0700 |
| Last post | 2011-09-26 01:37 +0100 |
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To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Ya Shou <shouyatf@gmail.com> - 2011-09-24 04:06 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-09-24 11:13 +0000
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-09-24 07:48 -0400
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Uno <merrilljensen@q.com> - 2011-09-24 21:58 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-09-25 08:44 -0400
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Uno <merrilljensen@q.com> - 2011-09-26 21:52 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-09-27 21:14 -0400
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-27 19:56 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-25 06:53 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-09-26 04:40 +0100
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-09-24 09:04 -0400
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-09-24 14:06 +0000
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Ya Shou <shouyatf@gmail.com> - 2011-09-26 21:10 -0700
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-29 22:08 +0000
Re: To use Perl like conditional assignment in C "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-09-26 01:37 +0100
| From | Ya Shou <shouyatf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 04:06 -0700 |
| Subject | To use Perl like conditional assignment in C |
| Message-ID | <a2b7378d-3156-4f3c-ad6a-1bf14330d993@5g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> |
Hello,
I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
easier to implement in Perl, see below:
cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
way. I considered a program in C is:
cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
follows:
int loadval = loadConfig ();
if (loadval! = 0) {
cfgval = loadval;
} else {
cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
}
Or
int loadval;
cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
beautiful realization?
Thanks.
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| From | Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 11:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj7rerd.2vmr.willem@toad.stack.nl> |
| In reply to | #10844 |
Ya Shou wrote:
) Hello,
)
)
) I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
) values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
) through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
) configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
) when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
)
) However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
) easier to implement in Perl, see below:
)
) cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
)
) In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
) is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
) way. I considered a program in C is:
)
) cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
)
) And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
) ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
) likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
)
) Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
) this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
) follows:
)
) int loadval = loadConfig ();
) if (loadval! = 0) {
) cfgval = loadval;
) } else {
) cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
) }
)
) Or
)
) int loadval;
) cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
)
)
) I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
) beautiful realization?
Why can't you assign to cfgval twice?
if (!(cfgval = loadConfig()))
cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
Or if you want to mimic the Perl style:
(cfgval = loadConfig()) || (cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL);
But that will be deemed very ugly by most C programmers.
IIRC, some compilers have an extension which allows this:
cfgval = loadConfig() ?: DEFAULT_VAL;
But that is not standard C, as far as I know.
SaSW, Willem
--
Disclaimer: I am in no way responsible for any of the statements
made in the above text. For all I know I might be
drugged or something..
No I'm not paranoid. You all think I'm paranoid, don't you !
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| From | pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 07:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4E7DC3AA.427D@mindspring.com> |
| In reply to | #10844 |
Ya Shou wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
>
> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
>
> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
> way. I considered a program in C is:
>
> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
>
> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
> follows:
>
> int loadval = loadConfig ();
> if (loadval! = 0) {
> cfgval = loadval;
> } else {
> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> }
>
> Or
>
> int loadval;
> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
> beautiful realization?
cfgval = loadConfig ();
if (cfgval == 0) {
cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
}
--
pete
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| From | Uno <merrilljensen@q.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 21:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9e7n5aF5qvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #10848 |
On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
> Ya Shou wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
>> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
>> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
>> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
>> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
>>
>> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
>> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
>>
>> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
>>
>> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
>> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
>> way. I considered a program in C is:
>>
>> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
>>
>> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
>> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
>> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
>>
>> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
>> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
>> follows:
>>
>> int loadval = loadConfig ();
>> if (loadval! = 0) {
>> cfgval = loadval;
>> } else {
>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>> }
>>
>> Or
>>
>> int loadval;
>> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
>>
>> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
>> beautiful realization?
>
> cfgval = loadConfig ();
> if (cfgval == 0) {
> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> }
>
pete,
you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
there, revolutionary.
--
Uno
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| From | pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-25 08:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4E7F224B.4BA0@mindspring.com> |
| In reply to | #10902 |
Uno wrote:
>
> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
> > Ya Shou wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
> >> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
> >> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
> >> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
> >> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
> >>
> >> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
> >> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
> >>
> >> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>
> >> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
> >> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
> >> way. I considered a program in C is:
> >>
> >> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>
> >> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
> >> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
> >> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
> >>
> >> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
> >> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
> >> follows:
> >>
> >> int loadval = loadConfig ();
> >> if (loadval! = 0) {
> >> cfgval = loadval;
> >> } else {
> >> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> >> }
> >>
> >> Or
> >>
> >> int loadval;
> >> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>
> >> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
> >> beautiful realization?
> >
> > cfgval = loadConfig ();
> > if (cfgval == 0) {
> > cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> > }
> >
>
> pete,
>
> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
> there, revolutionary.
I don't think that I did that.
--
pete
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| From | Uno <merrilljensen@q.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-26 21:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9ecvitFmu0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #10916 |
On 9/25/2011 5:44 AM, pete wrote:
> Uno wrote:
>>
>> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
>>> Ya Shou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
>>>> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
>>>> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
>>>> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
>>>> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
>>>>
>>>> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
>>>> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
>>>>
>>>> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>>
>>>> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
>>>> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
>>>> way. I considered a program in C is:
>>>>
>>>> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>>
>>>> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
>>>> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
>>>> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
>>>> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
>>>> follows:
>>>>
>>>> int loadval = loadConfig ();
>>>> if (loadval! = 0) {
>>>> cfgval = loadval;
>>>> } else {
>>>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Or
>>>>
>>>> int loadval;
>>>> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>>
>>>> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
>>>> beautiful realization?
>>>
>>> cfgval = loadConfig ();
>>> if (cfgval == 0) {
>>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>>> }
>>>
>>
>> pete,
>>
>> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
>> there, revolutionary.
>
> I don't think that I did that.
>
Because perl is a child of c, or that if you thought what you posted was
C, it wouldn't be syntactical?
--
Uno
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| From | pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-27 21:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4E8274E0.7965@mindspring.com> |
| In reply to | #10992 |
Uno wrote:
>
> On 9/25/2011 5:44 AM, pete wrote:
> > Uno wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
> >>> Ya Shou wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
> >>>> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
> >>>> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
> >>>> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
> >>>> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
> >>>> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
> >>>>
> >>>> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>>>
> >>>> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
> >>>> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
> >>>> way. I considered a program in C is:
> >>>>
> >>>> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>>>
> >>>> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
> >>>> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
> >>>> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
> >>>> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
> >>>> follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> int loadval = loadConfig ();
> >>>> if (loadval! = 0) {
> >>>> cfgval = loadval;
> >>>> } else {
> >>>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> Or
> >>>>
> >>>> int loadval;
> >>>> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
> >>>> beautiful realization?
> >>>
> >>> cfgval = loadConfig ();
> >>> if (cfgval == 0) {
> >>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>
> >> pete,
> >>
> >> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
> >> there, revolutionary.
> >
> > I don't think that I did that.
> >
>
> Because perl is a child of c,
> or that if you thought what you posted was
> C, it wouldn't be syntactical?
I just posted some C code.
If it also happens to be some other code,
I don't know anything about it.
--
pete
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-27 19:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ln4nzx1ika.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> |
| In reply to | #11034 |
pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> writes:
> Uno wrote:
>> On 9/25/2011 5:44 AM, pete wrote:
>> > Uno wrote:
>> >> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
[...]
>> >>> cfgval = loadConfig ();
>> >>> if (cfgval == 0) {
>> >>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>> >>> }
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
>> >> there, revolutionary.
>> >
>> > I don't think that I did that.
>> >
>>
>> Because perl is a child of c,
>> or that if you thought what you posted was
>> C, it wouldn't be syntactical?
>
> I just posted some C code.
> If it also happens to be some other code,
> I don't know anything about it.
Neither does Uno. The code fragment you posted is C; it's not Perl.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-25 06:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <db89d5da-ccbb-42f8-8d56-07f2d277ff90@j1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #10902 |
On Sep 25, 5:58 am, Uno <merrilljen...@q.com> wrote:
> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ya Shou wrote:
>
> >> Hello,
>
> >> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
> >> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
> >> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
> >> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
> >> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
>
> >> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
> >> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
>
> >> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> >> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
> >> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
> >> way. I considered a program in C is:
>
> >> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> >> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
> >> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
> >> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
>
> >> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
> >> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
> >> follows:
>
> >> int loadval = loadConfig ();
> >> if (loadval! = 0) {
> >> cfgval = loadval;
> >> } else {
> >> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> >> }
>
> >> Or
>
> >> int loadval;
> >> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
>
> >> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
> >> beautiful realization?
>
> > cfgval = loadConfig ();
> > if (cfgval == 0) {
> > cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
> > }
>
> pete,
>
> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
> there, revolutionary.
in what way is that not C syntax?
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| From | "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-26 04:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j5os78$fm7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #10902 |
Uno wrote:
> On 9/24/2011 4:48 AM, pete wrote:
>> Ya Shou wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
>>> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
>>> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
>>> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
>>> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
>>>
>>> However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much
>>> easier to implement in Perl, see below:
>>>
>>> cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>
>>> In C '||' operator does not return the value of the expression which
>>> is true, but returns 1 or 0, so that I can not be used in a similar
>>> way. I considered a program in C is:
>>>
>>> cfgval = loadConfig ()? loadConfig (): DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>
>>> And however, this approach to involve a duplication of code, it is
>>> ugly, the other will call loadConfig function twice, inefficient and
>>> likely to cause unnecessary accidents.
>>>
>>> Of course, if / else statement can achieve this functionality, but
>>> this method requires an additional variable, and not look simple. As
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> int loadval = loadConfig ();
>>> if (loadval! = 0) {
>>> cfgval = loadval;
>>> } else {
>>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Or
>>>
>>> int loadval;
>>> cfgval = (loadval! = 0)? loadval: DEFAULT_VAL;
>>>
>>> I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more
>>> beautiful realization?
>>
>> cfgval = loadConfig ();
>> if (cfgval == 0) {
>> cfgval = DEFAULT_VAL;
>> }
>>
>
> pete,
>
> you just posted another syntax other than c tonight in clc; watch it,
> there, revolutionary.
Where? When?
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 09:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <j5kkg3$io8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #10844 |
On 9/24/2011 7:06 AM, Ya Shou wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with
> values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file
> through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not
> configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure,
> when this, I will to give it a default value assigned.
> [...]
Others have suggested ways to write this. But is it a good
idea? It leaves you with no way for the configuration file to
supply zero as an actual value, which may be satisfactory now
but could become troublesome later.
"In-band" signalling has a long history, and you'll find it
used a lot in the C library and in C programs. The malloc()
function returns NULL to indicate a special case, and this works
because NULL is easily distinguishable from any valid pointer.
strchr(), getenv(), and many others use NULL in a similar way.
But with functions returning other types it's not always so easy
to choose an "impossible" value. time() and several other time-
related functions return -1 when something's wrong, but on most
systems the value -1 could easily be understood as a perfectly
valid time, often 1969-12-31 23:59:59. fgetc() returns the value
EOF, which is supposed to be different from all actual character
values -- but this makes trouble on systems with wide characters
and narrow integers, or on ones' complement or signed magnitude
systems where `char' is signed. strtol() uses three different
"impossible" values, *all* of them perfectly legitimate!
In short, using a special value to mean "absent" or "invalid"
may seem convenient, but can be less convenient than it appears
at first. Instead of
cfgval = loadConfig();
if (cfgval == SPECIAL_VALUE)
cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE;
consider something more like
if (!loadConfig(&cfgval))
cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE;
where loadConfig() tries to load the value and store it at the
indicated place, and returns 1 or 0 to indicate success or failure.
Or, if you prefer, use
cfgval = loadConfig(DEFAULT_VALUE);
where loadConfig() loads and returns the value from the configuration
file, or returns its own argument if unable to load anything. You
could even put DEFAULT_VALUE into loadConfig() itself, producing
cfgval = loadConfig();
where loadConfig() loads and returns the file's value if it can, or
returns DEFAULT_VALUE if unable.
But think long and hard and critically before using SPECIAL_VALUE.
It can become a snare and a delusion.
--
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid
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| From | Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-24 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj7rour.gnu.willem@toad.stack.nl> |
| In reply to | #10856 |
Eric Sosman wrote:
) Or, if you prefer, use
)
) cfgval = loadConfig(DEFAULT_VALUE);
)
) where loadConfig() loads and returns the value from the configuration
) file, or returns its own argument if unable to load anything. You
) could even put DEFAULT_VALUE into loadConfig() itself, producing
)
) cfgval = loadConfig();
)
) where loadConfig() loads and returns the file's value if it can, or
) returns DEFAULT_VALUE if unable.
I prefer the first, because of the more real-world generic version:
cfgval = loadConfig('foo_num', FOO_DEFAULT_VALUE);
Which I've used plenty of times.
SaSW, Willem
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made in the above text. For all I know I might be
drugged or something..
No I'm not paranoid. You all think I'm paranoid, don't you !
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| From | Ya Shou <shouyatf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-26 21:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <80c3d242-acbf-4edd-89b0-192c677049ec@w15g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #10856 |
On Sep 24, 9:04 pm, Eric Sosman <esos...@ieee-dot-org.invalid> wrote: > On 9/24/2011 7:06 AM, Ya Shou wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I want to assign an uncertain value to a variable, this variable with > > values in the configuration file, reads the configuration file > > through a function to return to the read configuration value, if not > > configured or the value of non-compliance, will return 0 for failure, > > when this, I will to give it a default value assigned. > > [...] > > Others have suggested ways to write this. But is it a good > idea? It leaves you with no way for the configuration file to > supply zero as an actual value, which may be satisfactory now > but could become troublesome later. > > "In-band" signalling has a long history, and you'll find it > used a lot in the C library and in C programs. The malloc() > function returns NULL to indicate a special case, and this works > because NULL is easily distinguishable from any valid pointer. > strchr(), getenv(), and many others use NULL in a similar way. > But with functions returning other types it's not always so easy > to choose an "impossible" value. time() and several other time- > related functions return -1 when something's wrong, but on most > systems the value -1 could easily be understood as a perfectly > valid time, often 1969-12-31 23:59:59. fgetc() returns the value > EOF, which is supposed to be different from all actual character > values -- but this makes trouble on systems with wide characters > and narrow integers, or on ones' complement or signed magnitude > systems where `char' is signed. strtol() uses three different > "impossible" values, *all* of them perfectly legitimate! > > In short, using a special value to mean "absent" or "invalid" > may seem convenient, but can be less convenient than it appears > at first. Instead of > > cfgval = loadConfig(); > if (cfgval == SPECIAL_VALUE) > cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE; This is a better way to do that, but twice assignment maybe superfluous. > > consider something more like > > if (!loadConfig(&cfgval)) > cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE; > I think that is a perfect solution. beautiful and so efficient. > where loadConfig() tries to load the value and store it at the > indicated place, and returns 1 or 0 to indicate success or failure. > Or, if you prefer, use > > cfgval = loadConfig(DEFAULT_VALUE); > > where loadConfig() loads and returns the value from the configuration > file, or returns its own argument if unable to load anything. You > could even put DEFAULT_VALUE into loadConfig() itself, producing > > cfgval = loadConfig(); > > where loadConfig() loads and returns the file's value if it can, or > returns DEFAULT_VALUE if unable. > > But think long and hard and critically before using SPECIAL_VALUE. > It can become a snare and a delusion. > > -- > Eric Sosman > esos...@ieee-dot-org.invalid
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2011-09-29 22:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj89r30.1bk.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #10856 |
On Sat, 2011-09-24, Eric Sosman wrote: ... > In short, using a special value to mean "absent" or "invalid" > may seem convenient, but can be less convenient than it appears > at first. Instead of > > cfgval = loadConfig(); > if (cfgval == SPECIAL_VALUE) > cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE; > > consider something more like > > if (!loadConfig(&cfgval)) > cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE; I'd like to recommend int cfgval = loadConfig(&error); if (error) cfgval = DEFAULT_VALUE; which lets you initialize 'cfgval' at its declaration (and in may cases make it const). > But think long and hard and critically before using SPECIAL_VALUE. > It can become a snare and a delusion. Agreed. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-26 01:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j5ohha$uod$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #10844 |
"Ya Shou" <shouyatf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:a2b7378d-3156-4f3c-ad6a-1bf14330d993@5g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... > However, I found it seem impossible to achieve this in C, but much > easier to implement in Perl, see below: > > cfgval = loadConfig () || DEFAULT_VAL; > I would like to ask you is, in this case, there is nothing more > beautiful realization? Can you change loadConfig()? If so, just do: cfgval = loadConfig(DEFAULT_VAL); If you can't change it, use a wrapper: cfgval = your_loadConfig(DEFAULT_VAL); or just: cfgval = your_loadConfig(); -- Bartc
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