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| Started by | jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> |
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| First post | 2012-08-23 20:05 +0200 |
| Last post | 2012-09-13 20:39 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 386 — 52 participants |
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Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 20:05 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-23 20:28 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 21:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 12:44 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 22:14 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 14:15 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-23 22:07 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-08-23 16:20 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 22:51 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 09:33 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:51 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 13:30 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 13:32 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 13:46 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-24 15:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ozbear@bigpond.com (ozbear) - 2012-08-26 02:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-26 00:19 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ozbear@bigpond.com (ozbear) - 2012-08-27 00:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 13:51 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language CRNG <Spam@uce.gov> - 2012-08-23 16:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-23 18:01 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 15:21 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-23 19:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-23 23:26 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 19:14 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 11:35 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 21:03 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 18:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 21:13 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 21:08 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:41 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:35 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 02:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 02:58 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-26 15:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:02 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Leo Havmøller <rtxleh@nospam.nospam> - 2012-08-24 06:52 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:00 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-23 23:16 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-24 00:06 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:18 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Leo Havmøller <rtxleh@nospam.nospam> - 2012-08-24 09:22 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:53 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 03:48 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-24 15:28 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:20 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:43 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 03:30 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:11 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:10 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:16 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 02:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:58 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:02 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 02:59 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 05:28 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 07:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-25 12:12 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 05:33 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-25 16:57 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:22 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 10:46 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 11:00 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:31 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 01:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-25 13:58 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:36 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 22:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 10:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 04:27 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Chicken McNuggets <chicken@mcnuggets.com> - 2012-09-01 11:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-09-02 00:52 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:21 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:16 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:59 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:55 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 00:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:17 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:47 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-24 06:33 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 06:47 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:58 -0600
Alternatives to Windows APIs in Metro style apps "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:20 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-24 12:38 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-25 21:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-26 01:40 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-27 20:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-27 17:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:25 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-27 15:03 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-27 15:35 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-28 01:13 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-28 01:30 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:46 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 09:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:26 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 09:59 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 02:44 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 11:40 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 03:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 05:05 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-03 00:32 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 01:16 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 01:03 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:28 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-08-28 20:35 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-08-28 11:55 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 21:11 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 21:39 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-08-28 22:29 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:09 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-08-28 23:16 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:27 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 17:24 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:37 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 14:37 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:39 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 00:15 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 01:54 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 17:15 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 02:27 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-29 10:01 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 10:54 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-29 13:47 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-29 07:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 16:20 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-29 12:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 20:28 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 14:51 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:11 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 15:32 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:47 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:01 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2012-08-29 19:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:30 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 15:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2012-08-29 20:07 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:06 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-29 08:21 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 15:37 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 15:59 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 16:27 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 11:02 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 11:42 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 14:52 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 07:27 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-29 20:00 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 16:36 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-29 21:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 17:51 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 03:07 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 21:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 11:40 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-30 04:00 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 13:55 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-30 13:47 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 23:24 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-30 02:40 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 17:46 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-29 18:25 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-30 13:43 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-30 03:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-30 08:28 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-31 05:29 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-31 11:57 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 14:20 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-30 06:39 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 20:08 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-30 22:51 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-31 01:04 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 11:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-30 16:33 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 12:29 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 04:40 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-08-31 17:26 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 08:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-31 12:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-08-31 20:17 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-31 14:41 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-01 00:11 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 12:48 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-02 20:39 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-02 17:07 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 12:22 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 20:49 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 18:58 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> - 2012-09-03 02:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 22:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-03 10:16 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 12:10 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-03 13:06 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-04 12:16 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 12:24 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 20:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-04 17:38 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Edek Pienkowski <edek.pienkowski@gmail.com> - 2012-09-04 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 16:46 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Edek Pienkowski <edek.pienkowski@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 08:26 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 13:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 15:30 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 16:05 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 17:01 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 17:21 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 21:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-03 00:24 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 18:06 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:07 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 18:36 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-02 20:38 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 20:00 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:25 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-03 11:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-31 11:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-01 13:45 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-01 12:29 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:47 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 12:41 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:46 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 14:08 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-01 11:54 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 20:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 08:55 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:43 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-04 09:25 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-04 17:50 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 19:32 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-04 22:58 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 22:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-05 10:13 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-05 08:59 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:57 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-06 17:30 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 13:16 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 07:13 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 21:25 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 15:18 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 00:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 11:28 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 22:44 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 18:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 01:10 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 22:45 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 05:18 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 14:29 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-08 07:16 -0700
Re: Reâ: â¬Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 15:58 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 17:39 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 10:21 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 22:29 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 00:24 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 20:47 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-06 17:22 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 13:12 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 08:51 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 16:57 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-07 19:40 +0300
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 22:46 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-09-10 17:02 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-10 22:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-09-11 11:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-10 22:44 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 07:18 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 21:11 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-06 16:57 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 02:27 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-06 15:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-09-08 09:54 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-08 01:23 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-10 10:48 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 14:29 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-02 15:15 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-31 21:58 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 14:02 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 12:55 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 19:21 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:44 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-01 21:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:48 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 02:04 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 19:07 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-08-31 11:57 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-31 11:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-31 21:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 11:54 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-30 08:02 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 14:57 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-28 21:19 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ais523 <ais523@bham.ac.uk> - 2012-08-28 22:07 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 14:36 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 09:40 +1200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 17:13 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 01:01 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 22:26 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Chicken McNuggets <chicken@mcnuggets.com> - 2012-09-02 12:28 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-25 16:48 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language timprince <tprince@computer.org> - 2012-08-25 23:20 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-25 20:55 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 02:24 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 10:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 03:13 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Tim Prince <tprince@nospamcomputer.org> - 2012-08-26 11:01 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-26 13:53 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 21:54 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:46 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-27 08:52 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 01:16 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-27 11:24 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 04:07 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 13:09 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 09:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 16:36 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:02 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:18 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-28 13:14 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 10:03 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-08-31 17:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:12 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-09-03 11:39 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:22 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-09-03 12:54 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-28 19:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:34 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 01:26 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 02:53 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:36 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 03:17 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 04:37 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 00:35 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 11:00 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 03:16 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 11:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 05:02 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 15:14 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-26 15:22 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:35 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:38 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-27 10:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-27 21:21 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-28 02:42 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-27 20:02 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-28 10:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-28 03:52 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-28 12:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-28 18:25 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-29 11:25 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-26 11:06 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:01 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 07:33 -0400
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 00:13 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-26 11:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-26 14:22 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:30 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-26 22:43 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 00:32 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-27 01:02 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 01:42 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 03:00 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-28 10:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 04:14 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 04:18 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 10:56 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 03:40 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-27 04:05 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 15:13 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 23:47 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 09:16 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 01:48 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-28 14:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 17:14 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:45 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 10:01 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 02:54 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 13:45 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 23:28 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 13:58 -0500
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 00:20 -0600
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-26 15:24 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2012-08-27 00:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-13 19:46 +0200
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-09-13 13:32 -0700
Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-13 20:39 +0000
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| From | "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 16:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k1aslr$euo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #24907 |
"Malcolm McLean" <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:33c9703f-ceea-4f47-ab24-a91fcfe0bee0@googlegroups.com... > בתאריך יום שבת, 25 באוגוסט 2012 12:12:19 UTC+1, מאת Bart: >> "Malcolm McLean" <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> And how *does* one create graphics from another language (since the >> examples >> assume you are using an official one)? In fact how do you do anything? >> Without a generic or binary interface (or one in C which is almost the >> same), then it becomes a closed system. >> > Java version one tired to implement a windowing system that mapped Java > elements onto Winodws native elements. So a text box would be a Windows > "edit" control and suchlike. Apparently it didn't work, and Swing just > reimplmented everything on top of a couple of fucntions to open a window > and > set a pixel within that Window. Apparently that works. I've tried it a few times and it just doesn't work. The Windows common controls are a complete and utter mess. Every one is different. There's no consistency. Each uses a set of dozens of messages, notifications, styles, structs and functions that are different, and incompatible with, all others. A feature available on one control (vertical text justify for example) is not available on another. You can't draw into any control at will. Some have a discrete border, others have it as part of the client area. Etc. Who designed this heap of rubbish? I'm not surprised Swing does it that way, and my next attempt will use a similar approach. Really, programming this stuff is not that difficult. All my controls will use the same, small, compatible sets of messages and features. However I need at least the ability to create a top-level window, and some very basic graphics capability; and there might not be an easy way to do that on Windows 8 if all C interfaces are removed! I can see myself dusting off my soldering iron and building my own hardware again in a couple of years... -- Bartc
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 23:22 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1cca8$1ek$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24922 |
BartC wrote: > I've tried it a few times and it just doesn't work. The Windows common > controls are a complete and utter mess. Every one is different. > There's no consistency. Each uses a set of dozens of messages, > notifications, styles, structs and functions that are different, and > incompatible with, all others. A feature available on one control > (vertical text justify for example) is not available on another. You > can't draw into any control at will. Some have a discrete border, > others have it as part of the client area. Etc. Who designed this > heap of rubbish? The same that brought you Unicode and today's C++? > > I'm not surprised Swing does it that way, and my next attempt will > use a similar approach. Really, programming this stuff is not that > difficult. All my controls will use the same, small, compatible sets > of messages and features. > > However I need at least the ability to create a top-level window, and > some very basic graphics capability; and there might not be an easy > way to do that on Windows 8 if all C interfaces are removed! They are not removed. > > I can see myself dusting off my soldering iron and building my own > hardware again in a couple of years... Solder? There won't be boards that you can just snap-in whatever chips you want? Heck,who needs a board at all--SOC (System On a Chip)!
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| From | "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-26 10:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k1crb6$e99$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #24984 |
"Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> wrote in message news:k1cca8$1ek$1@speranza.aioe.org... > BartC wrote: >> I can see myself dusting off my soldering iron and building my own >> hardware again in a couple of years... > > Solder? There won't be boards that you can just snap-in whatever chips you > want? Heck,who needs a board at all--SOC (System On a Chip)! For non-production work, you would typically solder sockets, and chips would be inserted into those. But it's possible that some components now only come in surface-mount forms that need special equipment, that would make things tricky. -- Bartc
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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 11:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1at13$t81$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #24907 |
On 8/25/2012 7:33 AM, Malcolm McLean wrote: > בתאריך יום שבת, 25 באוגוסט 2012 12:12:19 UTC+1, מאת Bart: >> "Malcolm McLean" <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> And how *does* one create graphics from another language (since the examples >> assume you are using an official one)? In fact how do you do anything? >> Without a generic or binary interface (or one in C which is almost the >> same), then it becomes a closed system. >> > Java version one tired to implement a windowing system that mapped Java > elements onto Winodws native elements. So a text box would be a Windows > "edit" control and suchlike. Apparently it didn't work, and Swing just > reimplmented everything on top of a couple of fucntions to open a window and > set a pixel within that Window. Apparently that works. > > But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines to darw > lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS dependence. > yeah. a long while ago, I had just written code to mimic the "look and feel" of the Windows GUI widgets on top of OpenGL. mostly, this was since I was using OpenGL and the native widgets are kind of a PITA. of course, developing a decent GUI API isn't really easy, and my own existing GUI stuff is still sort of a pain to use. it is also a pain because what I am using it for now implies the use of a client/server GUI (where a socket may exist between the "client/user" and the "server" which contains the logic behind the UI). I haven't really gotten around to implementing this (or worked out exactly what the API is going to look like).
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 23:31 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1cca9$1ek$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24923 |
BGB wrote: > a long while ago, I had just written code to mimic the "look and feel" > of the Windows GUI widgets on top of OpenGL. Isn't OpenGL way overkill for 2D? Or were you doing 3D stuff and textures, etc.? It would seem that all you'd gain with your approach is cross-platform capability, but in doing so, creating a dependence on another monstrosity. To me, it seems like just abstracting some platform primitives (or a bit higher-level) would be much less work than even just figuring out OpenGL's complexities. ? > it is also a pain because what I am using it for now implies the use > of a client/server GUI (where a socket may exist between the > "client/user" and the "server" which contains the logic behind the > UI). X-Windows! > I haven't really gotten around to implementing this (or worked > out exactly what the API is going to look like). xlib? Motif? ;)
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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-26 01:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1chh8$u3k$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #24985 |
On 8/26/2012 12:31 AM, Ansel wrote: > BGB wrote: > >> a long while ago, I had just written code to mimic the "look and feel" >> of the Windows GUI widgets on top of OpenGL. > > Isn't OpenGL way overkill for 2D? Or were you doing 3D stuff and textures, > etc.? It would seem that all you'd gain with your approach is cross-platform > capability, but in doing so, creating a dependence on another monstrosity. > To me, it seems like just abstracting some platform primitives (or a bit > higher-level) would be much less work than even just figuring out OpenGL's > complexities. ? > I mostly do 3D stuff, but OpenGL works pretty well for both 2D and 3D stuff. for many non-trivial tasks, it is still much easier overall than drawing pixel values into a buffer (although a pixel-buffer gives a lot more control, and for some tasks is easier to use and more capable than is using shaders). >> it is also a pain because what I am using it for now implies the use >> of a client/server GUI (where a socket may exist between the >> "client/user" and the "server" which contains the logic behind the >> UI). > > X-Windows! > well, except this is tied to Linux or similar. technically, this is inside of a game, where the GUI would be integrated with the delta-protocol otherwise used for scene-graph delta messages (entity movements, ...). theoretically, a GUI is basically just a small scene-graph with event messages thrown in, but the specifics get a little less obvious. to some extent I had been using console-style UIs (via the in-program console), and have in a few cases implemented a subset of the VT100 escape-sequences, but thus far they are mostly just used for changing colors and other things. also, unlike a real console, this system doesn't generally (by default) have a freely movable cursor, although my text-editor interface did go in this direction (by disabling/ignoring the usual command-entry prompt, and setting up another faux cursor). note: the console interface is itself drawn using OpenGL (and uses an 8x8 bitmap font). >> I haven't really gotten around to implementing this (or worked >> out exactly what the API is going to look like). > > xlib? Motif? ;) > my initial API was done similar to OpenGL, namely: begin/end pairs and get/set functions (using handles), just with more strings (I took API design ideas mostly from OpenGL and the Win32 GDI, with a few misc ideas from GTK). this turned out to kind-of suck. basically, begin/end pairs were used to submit widgets or forms, and typically forms or menus were modified by entirely replacing them (by begining a new form using the old one's ID-number), though some properties could be changed via get/set calls, which would be passed a widget-handle. my more recent idea had more been based on the idea that widgets are basically structs (similar to "entities") which can be linked together, and linked onto "containers" or "surfaces". in the protocol though, it will probably all just boil down to delta messages and handles though (so, any changed variables in the server-side structure are relayed as delta messages across to the other end, where they update the client-side version of the widget). likewise, if the user interacts with the widget, a message will be sent back indicating this. I haven't yet gotten to this though...
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| From | Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 13:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1b6ug$d2l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #24907 |
Malcolm McLean wrote: > בתאריך יום שבת, 25 באוגוסט 2012 12:12:19 UTC+1, מאת Bart: >> "Malcolm McLean" <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> >> And how *does* one create graphics from another language (since the examples >> assume you are using an official one)? In fact how do you do anything? >> Without a generic or binary interface (or one in C which is almost the >> same), then it becomes a closed system. >> > Java version one tired to implement a windowing system that mapped Java > elements onto Winodws native elements. So a text box would be a Windows > "edit" control and suchlike. Apparently it didn't work, and Swing just > reimplmented everything on top of a couple of fucntions to open a window and > set a pixel within that Window. Apparently that works. > > But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines to darw > lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS dependence. > This is precisely why I ended up switching completely to Tcl/Tk around the year 2000. I suppose Python would serve as well now. -- Les Cargill
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 23:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1ccj8$1rv$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24907 |
Malcolm McLean wrote: > But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines to > darw lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS dependence. Do you mean you actually programmed the rasterization of those things akin to what's in the books by Foley, Van Dam and others?
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| From | 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 22:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1a3eecbb-6c11-41b5-9c55-657abf7508f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #24986 |
Ansel於 2012年8月26日星期日UTC+8下午1時36分15秒寫道： > Malcolm McLean wrote: > > > > > But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines to > > > darw lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS dependence. > > > > Do you mean you actually programmed the rasterization of those things akin > > to what's in the books by Foley, Van Dam and others? MS has been so faithful to Intel CPUs. Thus Ms missed the OS dominating best time for cpus in the arm family. Now android=LINUX +JVM and IOS from apple are attracting money away from the PC industry. If MS wants to fight in other CPUs, how can MS does not chunk out a better C/C++ compiler for other CPUs in the world?
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| From | "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-26 10:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Vgm_r.21985$Xu5.2512@fx10.am4> |
| In reply to | #24986 |
"Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> wrote in message news:k1ccj8$1rv$1@speranza.aioe.org... > Malcolm McLean wrote: > >> But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines to >> darw lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS dependence. > > Do you mean you actually programmed the rasterization of those things akin > to what's in the books by Foley, Van Dam and others? If you were doing graphics twenty years or more ago, then this was quite common! (I think my first attempts with raster graphics were in '79...). These days I would prefer to use OpenGL, a rare example of a well-designed API, and available for many languages! Including C, which allows bindings to be created for languages not officially supported (like mine..). However OpenGL was never popular with MS, and was only grudgingly supported. Hopefully that will still be available, but probably stuck at some ancient version. -- Bartc
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-26 04:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1ctl9$5uq$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #25006 |
BartC wrote: > "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> wrote in message > news:k1ccj8$1rv$1@speranza.aioe.org... >> Malcolm McLean wrote: >> >>> But it's a nuisance. I've written endless little graphics routines >>> to darw lines any polygons and things, purely to avoid OS >>> dependence. >> >> Do you mean you actually programmed the rasterization of those >> things akin to what's in the books by Foley, Van Dam and others? > > If you were doing graphics twenty years or more ago, then this was > quite common! > (I think my first attempts with raster graphics were in > '79...). I did some graphics programming about 20 years ago (2D charting of realtime data), *but* I used the Quinn-Curtis Graphics Library with the "Microsoft Optimizing Compiler", woo hoo!. (Ah yes, Programmer's Workbench, Codeview... what a waste of time, LOL! Can't forget MS QuickC--lots of fun. I bet I still have the manuals. I'm sure I have all the TurboC, TASM and Borland C++ stuff. But I digress.) > > These days I would prefer to use OpenGL, a rare example of a > well-designed API, and available for many languages! Including C, > which allows bindings to be created for languages not officially > supported (like mine..). > However OpenGL was never popular with MS, and was only grudgingly > supported. Hopefully that will still be available, but probably stuck > at some ancient version. I've peeked at it awhile ago, but don't remember if I liked it or not. I'll look at it again for sure when doing any graphics work. Also, though, I've heard that the latest DirectX APIs are damn nice. Have you looked at them? Not that you'd want to use them and give up cross-platform capability, but just to evaluate the API design.
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| From | Chicken McNuggets <chicken@mcnuggets.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-01 11:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k1soci$8v4$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #25006 |
On 26/08/2012 10:42, BartC wrote: > > However OpenGL was never popular with MS, and was only grudgingly > supported. Hopefully that will still be available, but probably stuck at > some ancient version. > Thankfully Microsoft don't need to directly support OpenGL. They only provide OpenGL 1.1 in the base Windows install. The version of OpenGL supported on Windows is down to which graphics card you have and what version of the drivers for said graphics card you are using. So it really doesn't matter what Microsoft do in relation to OpenGL you just need to make sure you have a decent graphics card which has drivers that support the version of OpenGL you want to use.
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| From | Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-02 00:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2012.09.01.23.52.38.443000@nowhere.com> |
| In reply to | #25696 |
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:35:01 +0100, Chicken McNuggets wrote: > So it really doesn't matter what Microsoft do in relation to OpenGL you > just need to make sure you have a decent graphics card which has drivers > that support the version of OpenGL you want to use. That almost changed in Windows 8. MS wanted to make OpenGL a wrapper around the DirectX API, which would have meant that OpenGL couldn't provide any feature not available via DirectX, nor be any faster. In the end, that didn't happen because of pushback from nVidia and AMD, who are too big to be steamrollered, even by MS.
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| From | "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> |
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| Date | 2012-09-01 23:21 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1uqb5$ssb$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #25711 |
Nobody wrote: > On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:35:01 +0100, Chicken McNuggets wrote: > >> So it really doesn't matter what Microsoft do in relation to OpenGL >> you just need to make sure you have a decent graphics card which has >> drivers that support the version of OpenGL you want to use. > > That almost changed in Windows 8. MS wanted to make OpenGL a wrapper > around the DirectX API, which would have meant that OpenGL couldn't > provide any feature not available via DirectX, nor be any faster. In > the end, that didn't happen because of pushback from nVidia and AMD, > who are too big to be steamrollered, even by MS. Ah yes, forces. In a limited view, there is DirectX and OpenGL. In a "slightly" expanded view, there is everything else. In a "slighty more" expanded view, there is a homeless man who can't make sense of such "unholy" acts perpetrated by those who have "risen to the top" (of the money machine), but wouldn't "code for food", nonetheless. DirectX: Microsoft: "money is power, power is money, surely evil". OpenGL: "Open Source". "Freedom (tm)". Oh, and the homeless guy? Rust never sleeps, it just fades away.
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 23:16 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1cbf5$vhh$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24905 |
BartC wrote: > I've no idea at the moment what Windows 8 or Metro is about, but it > sounds very much like I'm going to be locked out. Don't be fooled by Jacob's wild flailings. Get the info you need from the source and you will see that it is not as Jacob makes it appear. > > But this I imagine will apply to many other languages, not just my > private ones, and apparently C too! Or are all of those hundreds of > programming languages that people might want to use on Windows, > expected to compile down to CIL (whatever the .NET thing is), or > implemented in one of the four official MS languages (VB, C#, 'C++', > and .. XAML?). Will ASM still work? > And how *does* one create graphics from another language (since the > examples assume you are using an official one)? In fact how do you do > anything? Without a generic or binary interface (or one in C which is > almost the same), then it becomes a closed system. The Win32 API is still available in its entirety in Win 8 (probably some changes as always). Metro apps only can access a subset of it because Metro apps are very high-level, sandboxed apps. Think of Metro apps like Java apps. At least think of them as being at some level more abstracted-away-from the Windows core. That's my take on it anyway. Don't take my word for it--go to the MS sites and learn all about it from the horse's mouth.
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 22:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1caec$tev$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24897 |
Malcolm McLean wrote: > ?????? ??? ???, 25 ??????? 2012 10:16:17 UTC+1, ??? Rui Maciel: >> Ansel wrote: >> >> It appears that the changes mentioned by Jacob Navia have the nasty >> consequence of making it impossible to use standard C and C++ to >> develop apps for Windows 8. This being true, this reason might not >> be apparent but it certainly has serious implications, more than >> enough to justify some amount of wild faliling. I didn't write that. Rui did. The way you clipped it makes is look like I wrote it if you don't analyze it.
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-25 22:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1caeb$tev$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24891 |
Rui Maciel wrote: > Ansel wrote: > >> You seem to be flailing wildly for no apparent reason. > > It appears that the changes mentioned by Jacob Navia have the nasty > consequence of making it impossible to use standard C and C++ to > develop apps for Windows 8. That is not true though. At least not any more than developing on prior versions of Windows. I mean, you can't use *just* standard C to develop a GUI app for Windows (unless you don't use the Windows APIs). If you choose to develop for Windows using MS's high-level frameworks (.Net or WinRT), then you have to accept the ways that MS provides it to you. If you choose to develop even higher-level *style* apps *based upon* those frameworks, then you just have to bite the bullet if you don't like the paradigm. Luckily, though, if you are a C or C++ programmer, you don't have to *stand* anything MS shoves at you--you can create or replace whatever you want with what you want. > This being true, It isn't true. > this reason might not > be apparent but it certainly has serious implications, more than > enough to justify some amount of wild faliling.
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| From | Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-24 00:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <97268e80-d805-487e-b280-ee62a057a3d0@s15g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #24771 |
On Aug 23, 7:05 pm, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote: > This is a long story. It starts years ago since windows 3.1 and it ends > now, with "Metro". <snip> > Then, I started looking at the documentation of the SDK. And then I > noticed that C is no longer mentioned ANYWHERE. The only reference is to > "managed C++" That is the Microsoft version of C++ stock full with > __gc_class, ref class etc. :-( [to be honest i could live without C (my C usuallly goes through a C++ compiler without much hassle). But no C++ either!] > In the reference to C++ I found this: > > ) The concept of a current working directory doesn't apply to Metro > style apps and there is no current drive. > > Also, corresponding APIs such as GetCurrentDirectory and > SetCurrentDirectory are not available in the MSDK. > > Say goodbye to: > chdir chdir chdrive wchdir getcwd getcwd getdcwd getdcwd_nolock > wgetcwd _wgetdcwd wgetdcwd_nolock > > 2) Say goodbye to the console. Metro style apps are GUI only; they don't > support console. Goodbye stdin, stderr, stdout. ;-( :-( I write console applications all the time to try things out! Little utilities launched from the desktop etc. > 3) Pipe functionality is not available to Metro style apps. > > 4) Environment variables are not available to Metro style apps. Goodbye > to getenv, putenv, etc. > > 5) A Metro style app cannot invoke another Metro style app or a > desktop app. Goodbye to system, spawnxxx execxxx etc. > > 6) C strings are out. Goodbye strcpy strlwr strlen, etc. > > 7) Low level I/O functions: fopen fwrite etc. These functions are > synchronous, which is not recommended for Metro style apps. In your > Metro style apps, use asynchronous APIs to open, read from, and > write to files to prevent locking of the UI thread. Examples of such > APIs are the ones in the Windows::Storage::FileIO class. > > Great. Welcome to the future. This means that lcc-win will never be able > to generate any "Metro" applications since all interfaces with the > system go through a COM interface that would be feasible to adapt but > what a pain! > > I just do not have the resources nor the will to follow Microsoft any > more in that direction. > > The controls we are used to since windows 3.0 have disappeared (the > famous group box, for instance)... Many others are different, anyway > you have to rewrite absolutely EVERYTHING AGAIN, as well as you have to > learn windows again. The famous "start" button has disappeared, the > interface is completely different, all the reflexes are now WRONG, > you have to look for a few minutes after you find how to TURN OFF windows > > But I eventually find that button. > > Phew! no Win32 interface at all? Maybe I will have to switch to Linux after all.
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-24 04:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k17ka7$au5$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24824 |
Nick Keighley wrote: > On Aug 23, 7:05 pm, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote: >> 2) Say goodbye to the console. Metro style apps are GUI only; they >> don't support console. Goodbye stdin, stderr, stdout. > > ;-( :-( > > I write console applications all the time to try things out! Little > utilities launched from the desktop etc. You can still write console apps in Win8. > > > no Win32 interface at all? Maybe I will have to switch to Linux after > all. Win32 is still there, but just a subset of it is callable from Metro apps. I really don't see the hullabuloo about Metro apps. Some applications/platforms fit the model, others don't. I haven't investigated it much, but Metro seems to be a smart phone GUI put on the desktop, which sounds like a very dumb idea. On a phone, or tablet maybe, but on a desktop? Surely that showing of that coffee table interface where one could move stuff around with their hands because the surface was a touch screen has something to do with this (read, Bill Gate's ego). MS seems to be just a bunch of propeller heads after the Win 8 UI fiasco. But then again, the first thing I do after installing the latest and "greatest" version of Windows and after playing around with the "new and improved" GUI for a bit, is go looking for the same classic GUI I've been using since Win 95, so it may be just me. Heck, maybe y'all have abandoned your desktops for your smartphone ages ago, or don't even know what one of those desktop (computer) things is! I don't even have a smartphone. The last thing I want when I'm away from my computer, is to be away WITH another computer! I got off the MS bandwagon of "new-and-improved" technologies early. The first incling I had of their strategy is when they came out with DDE and then everything in their arsenal had to have 'DDE' in the name. Then it was OLE. COM. MFC, .Net, WinRT, Metro... it never ends. I feel very lucky that I haven't spent much time on learning MS-proprietary technologies.
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| From | "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-24 04:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k17m2k$g6p$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #24833 |
Ansel wrote: > I really don't see the hullabuloo about Metro apps. Some > applications/platforms fit the model, others don't. I haven't > investigated it much, but Metro seems to be a smart phone GUI put on > the desktop, which sounds like a very dumb idea. On a phone, or > tablet maybe, but on a desktop? Further, if one has an operating system product line, and they have a paradigm they call "deskop apps" and another called "Metro-style apps", shouldn't users conclude that "desktop apps" are for desktop computers and that "Metro-style" apps are for some other type of computer and that an OS that presents itself in "Metro-style" is not an OS meant for a desktop computer? Does MS employ any analysts? If so, they should try using consultants instead!
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