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What is the difference between (r+ and w+)

Started byChristopher <invalid@invalid.invalid>
First post2017-06-17 23:59 -0100
Last post2017-06-17 19:05 -0700
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  What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-17 23:59 -0100
    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 17:51 -0700
      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 00:00 -0100
        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-17 21:32 -0400
          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 00:50 -0100
            Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 03:40 +0100
              Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-18 11:48 +0200
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 13:13 +0100
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 16:20 +0100
              Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-18 14:49 +0100
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 15:46 +0100
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 00:16 +0100
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 05:37 +0100
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-19 09:25 -0700
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 17:35 +0100
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 18:19 +0100
                          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 20:51 +0100
                            Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 21:16 +0100
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 04:58 -0700
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 17:43 +0100
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 22:16 -0700
                          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-20 11:53 +0100
                            Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-20 22:45 -0700
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Good Guy <hello.world@example.com> - 2017-06-18 18:17 +0100
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:20 +0100
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-18 18:27 +0100
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 11:11 +0200
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-20 10:27 +0100
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 10:54 +0100
                          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 12:25 +0200
                            Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 12:34 +0100
                              Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-06-20 05:37 -0700
                                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 14:11 +0100
                                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-20 14:35 +0100
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 17:30 +0000
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:21 +0100
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:23 +0100
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:47 +0100
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:01 -0400
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-19 10:41 -0400
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:50 +0100
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 13:52 -0700
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 11:16 +0200
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-26 15:54 +0000
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:13 -0400
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:17 -0400
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 15:14 -0700
                          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 18:24 -0400
                          Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 04:11 -0700
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 23:01 +0100
            Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 19:55 -0700
              Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 02:10 -0100
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 04:15 +0100
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 08:31 +0000
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Good Guy <hello.world@example.com> - 2017-06-18 18:28 +0100
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 11:25 -0700
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 19:13 +0000
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 14:30 -0700
                        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 23:04 +0100
                Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 10:43 +0200
                  Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-18 10:33 -0400
                    Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 01:27 +0200
                      Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-18 21:16 -0400
        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-18 13:45 +1200
        Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 19:05 -0700

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#112465

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2017-06-18 10:33 -0400
Message-ID<oi62p7$k55$1@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#112448
On 6/18/2017 4:43 AM, GOTHIER Nathan wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 02:10:32 -0100
> Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>  
>> This is the book:
>>
>> <http://ineasysteps.com/products-page/all_books/c-programming-in-easy-steps-4th-edition-2/>
>>
>> C Programming in easy steps, 4th edition
>> by Mike McGrath
>>
>> The guy has written many books:
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mike-McGrath/e/B001JS22XU/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1>
> 
> A so bad track record... as usually educators are the worst experts in their field.
> 

Only because you would never make an educator - but then you've also
shown you're not a programmer.

For the record, I know several instructors who are excellent
programmers.  You don't get a job teaching in a corporate environment
unless you really know your stuff.

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#112514

FromGOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-19 01:27 +0200
Message-ID<20170619012720.1792bc8a590d6f2dd2192a65@gmail.com>
In reply to#112465
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 10:33:47 -0400
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

> For the record, I know several instructors who are excellent
> programmers.  You don't get a job teaching in a corporate environment
> unless you really know your stuff.

Unless you're a talented liar...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/may/13/yahoo-chief-scott-thompson-quits

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#112520

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2017-06-18 21:16 -0400
Message-ID<oi78dd$gig$1@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#112514
On 6/18/2017 7:27 PM, GOTHIER Nathan wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 10:33:47 -0400
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> For the record, I know several instructors who are excellent
>> programmers.  You don't get a job teaching in a corporate environment
>> unless you really know your stuff.
> 
> Unless you're a talented liar...
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/may/13/yahoo-chief-scott-thompson-quits
> 

It takes one to know one.  And it looks like you know them all!

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#112423

FromIan Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Date2017-06-18 13:45 +1200
Message-ID<eqm4adFf4vmU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#112420
On 06/18/17 01:00 PM, Christopher wrote:
> On 18/06/2017 01:51, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>> r+ Opens a text file to read from or write to
>>> w+ Opens a text file to write to or read from
>>>
>>> It looks exactly the same thing to me!!
>> What reference did you use?  Here's what the C standard says
>> (N1570 7.21.5.3p3):
>>
>>       r+   open text file for update (reading and writing)
>>       w+   truncate to zero length or create text file for update
>>
>
> This is a copy from the book!!
>
> <https://i.cubeupload.com/pdNkOH.png>

Which book?  It appears to be rather inaccurate.

-- 
Ian

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#112426

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2017-06-17 19:05 -0700
Message-ID<lnzid6hwyd.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#112420
Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> On 18/06/2017 01:51, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>> r+ Opens a text file to read from or write to
>>> w+ Opens a text file to write to or read from
>>>
>>> It looks exactly the same thing to me!!
>> What reference did you use?  Here's what the C standard says
>> (N1570 7.21.5.3p3):
>>
>>      r+   open text file for update (reading and writing)
>>      w+   truncate to zero length or create text file for update
>>
>
> This is a copy from the book!!
>
> <https://i.cubeupload.com/pdNkOH.png>

It might be nice to know what book you're using.

If it doesn't mention that "w+" truncates an existing file, you might
consider finding a better book or using primary resources.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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