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GCC vs Clang

Started byThe Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
First post2016-07-22 17:29 +0000
Last post2016-07-23 12:35 -0700
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  GCC vs Clang The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> - 2016-07-22 17:29 +0000
    Re: GCC vs Clang Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2016-07-22 20:17 +0200
    Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-22 21:09 +0200
      Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 12:22 -0700
        Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-22 23:20 +0200
          Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 14:56 -0700
          Re: GCC vs Clang jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-07-22 15:27 -0700
          Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-23 00:59 -0700
            Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-23 20:33 +0200
            Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 12:18 -0700
              Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 13:48 -0700
                  Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-23 22:54 +0200
                    Killfiles: Learn how they work.  They are your friend!  (Was: GCC vs Clang) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-23 21:14 +0000
                    Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 13:10 +0200
                      Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 05:20 -0700
                        Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 15:43 +0200
                          Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-25 07:09 -0700
                  Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-23 22:08 +0100
                    Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 13:21 +0200
                      Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 14:38 +0100
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 09:30 -0500
                          Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 15:41 +0100
                        Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 16:33 +0200
          Re: GCC vs Clang Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-07-24 07:46 -0700
          Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-25 11:02 -0400
          Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 02:00 -0700
            Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 02:25 -0700
    Re: GCC vs Clang Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2016-07-22 20:42 +0000
      Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-22 23:09 +0200
        Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-25 10:50 -0400
      Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-23 19:53 +0100
        Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-23 19:50 +0000
        Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-25 11:07 -0400
          Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-25 17:16 +0100
            Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 07:27 +0000
              Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-27 08:29 +0100
            Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-27 12:29 -0400
      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 02:44 -0700
    Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-22 22:18 +0100
      Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-22 14:43 -0700
        Re: GCC vs Clang Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-23 00:02 +0200
          Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 17:20 -0700
            Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-10 10:34 +0200
              Re: GCC vs Clang Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-10 02:18 -0700
            Re: GCC vs Clang cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2016-08-10 15:31 +0000
      Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 13:31 +0200
        Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 15:14 +0100
          Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-25 16:57 +0200
            Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 17:24 +0100
            Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-25 15:29 -0700
              Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-25 16:00 -0700
                Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-25 16:31 -0700
                  Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-25 17:06 -0700
                    Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-26 07:52 -0700
                      Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-26 08:20 -0700
                  Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-26 16:23 +1200
                  Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-26 07:17 +0200
                    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-26 00:56 -0700
                      Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 15:17 +0000
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 09:36 -0700
                          Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-27 10:04 -0700
                            Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-27 20:42 +0200
                              Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 20:29 +0100
                          Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-27 12:08 -0700
                          Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-31 14:43 +0000
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:32 +1200
                          Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-27 13:23 -0700
                            Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 17:13 +1200
                Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-26 07:10 +0200
                  Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:19 +1200
                    Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-26 08:28 +0200
                      Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-26 00:53 -0700
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-26 02:04 -0700
          Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-25 08:41 -0700
            Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 17:37 +0100
              Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-25 12:07 -0700
              Re: GCC vs Clang? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-25 22:57 +0200
                Re: GCC vs Clang? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-26 14:08 +0200
                Re: GCC vs Clang? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-27 15:18 +0000
                  Re: GCC vs Clang? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-27 22:01 +0200
                    Re: GCC vs Clang? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-28 09:56 +0000
              Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-27 12:38 -0400
              Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:38 +1200
                Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 20:54 +0100
                  Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 08:16 +1200
                    Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-27 23:55 +0100
                      Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-28 07:20 +0100
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 19:35 +1200
                          Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-31 14:47 +0000
                        Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-28 19:35 +1200
                      Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-09 17:00 -0700
                        Re: GCC vs Clang eva galois <eva.galois@yandex.ru> - 2016-08-09 21:15 -0400
                          Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-10 10:42 +0200
                          Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-08-10 12:52 +0000
                            Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-10 06:59 -0700
                            Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-10 16:52 +0200
                        Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-10 11:22 +0100
                          Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-10 11:31 +0100
                            Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-10 14:01 +0100
                              Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-10 07:12 -0700
                              Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-10 17:09 +0200
                                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-10 09:40 -0700
                                  Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-10 09:55 -0700
                                  Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-10 22:51 +0200
                          Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-10 09:36 -0700
                            Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-10 17:52 +0100
                              Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-10 11:49 -0700
                                Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-10 20:28 +0100
                                  Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-10 13:06 -0700
                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> - 2016-08-10 18:14 -0400
                                  Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-10 21:53 -0700
                                    Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 10:35 +0100
                                      Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 11:00 +0100
                                        Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 09:36 -0700
                                          Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 18:54 +0100
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 12:11 -0700
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-11 20:42 +0200
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 19:53 +0100
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 12:41 -0700
                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 20:21 +0100
                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 13:11 -0700
                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-11 21:46 +0200
                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 20:49 +0100
                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 13:57 -0700
                                                          Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-11 23:10 +0200
                                                            Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-14 09:07 +0100
                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-14 10:50 +0200
                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-14 13:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-08-14 16:29 -0400
                                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-14 23:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 14:04 -0700
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 14:11 -0700
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-14 15:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-08-14 18:13 -0400
                                                                          Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-15 00:14 -0700
                                                                            Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" (Was: GCC vs Clang) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-08-15 08:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" (Was: GCC vs Clang) fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 01:15 -0700
                                                                                Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" (Was: GCC vs Clang) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200
                                                                              Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-08-15 07:27 -0600
                                                                                Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-15 15:00 +0100
                                                                                Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-08-15 10:29 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-15 10:22 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-15 17:46 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-15 17:41 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-08-15 09:47 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-08-15 11:11 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-08-15 13:28 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor" fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:05 -0700
                                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-15 11:52 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-08-15 18:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:34 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:48 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:56 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 12:10 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 12:18 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Trolling (was Re: Keith's subtle use of the word "vendor") mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2016-08-17 08:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-15 09:38 -0700
                                                                            Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-08-17 08:24 +0000
                                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2016-08-17 17:44 +0200
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-15 17:25 +1200
                                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 23:09 -0700
                                                                          Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 23:16 -0700
                                                                            Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 23:28 -0700
                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-14 10:50 +0200
                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 02:30 -0700
                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-14 14:16 +0100
                                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:28 -0700
                                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-08-14 18:05 +0000
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-14 20:18 +0200
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 11:54 -0700
                                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:05 -0700
                                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-14 21:16 +0200
                                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:37 -0700
                                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-14 20:59 +0100
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 13:48 -0700
                                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 13:58 -0700
                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 02:53 -0700
                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-08-14 11:34 +0100
                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-08-14 14:07 +0100
                                                              Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-14 12:36 -0700
                                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-14 14:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-15 09:48 -0700
                                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-15 11:46 -0700
                                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:45 -0700
                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-11 14:11 -0700
                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-11 14:06 -0700
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-08-11 15:16 -0400
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-11 14:02 -0700
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 22:20 +0100
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 16:58 +0100
                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-12 17:05 +0100
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-11 23:24 +0200
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-11 22:58 +0100
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 16:08 -0700
                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-12 00:21 +0100
                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-11 17:29 -0700
                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-12 12:23 +0200
                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-12 11:43 +0100
                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-08-13 08:37 -0700
                                      Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-11 13:58 -0700
                                        Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-11 16:28 -0700
                                          Re: GCC vs Clang Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-12 01:12 -0700
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 20:15 +1200
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-12 12:29 +0200
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-08-12 12:45 +0200
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-12 04:30 -0700
                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-12 08:09 -0700
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-12 14:49 +0200
                                              Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-12 05:00 -0700
                                                Re: GCC vs Clang David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-12 15:03 +0200
                                                  Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-12 08:22 -0700
                                                    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-12 09:14 -0700
                                                      Re: GCC vs Clang supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-12 10:23 -0700
                                                        Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-12 11:29 -0700
                                            Re: GCC vs Clang already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-08-12 05:19 -0700
      Re: GCC vs Clang Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-25 10:53 -0400
    Re: GCC vs Clang raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-07-23 09:55 +0000
    Re: GCC vs Clang Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-23 12:35 -0700

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#90989

FromBartC <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2016-07-25 14:38 +0100
Message-ID<nn54on$tao$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90963
On 25/07/2016 12:21, David Brown wrote:
> On 23/07/16 23:08, BartC wrote:

>> Someone asked about C compilers, and the lccwin one certainly belongs in
>> that list, especially if it's for Windows.
>>
>
> Absolutely.
>
>> To most intents and purposes it is as free as any other.
>
> Absolutely not.

Really? Most people who download lccwin32 - and I think it passed the 1 
million download mark long ago - end up having to pay for it?

> No one, as far as I can see, objects to Jacob's model of "free for
> non-commercial use, paid license for professional use".  The only
> objection is to his describing it as "free" - and then to his vicious
> personal attacks on someone who clarified the terms.

Now /that/ is nonsense. It's just persistent bullying.

I google for 'free anti-virus' and one of the links is "XXX Antivirus 
FREE", and the website is free.xxx.com (hiding it so I'm not spamming). 
The home page says "FREE Antivirus". But when you get to the download 
page, there are also paid-for versions as well as the free one.

Is the description misleading? Inveigling someone in with the promise of 
free software, but then imposing restrictions on what is free and what 
isn't.

(And I've used this AV software for years and have never paid a penny.)

In the case of lccwin32, AFAIK there is nothing that physically stops 
you using it for commercial purposes without paying any money. Try using 
the extra features of the AV program without paying...

-- 
Bartc

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#90994

FromMark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>
Date2016-07-25 09:30 -0500
Message-ID<mstorkamp-B7CB5F.09300125072016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#90989
In article <nn54on$tao$1@dont-email.me>, BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 25/07/2016 12:21, David Brown wrote:
> > On 23/07/16 23:08, BartC wrote:
> 
> >> Someone asked about C compilers, and the lccwin one certainly belongs in
> >> that list, especially if it's for Windows.
> >>
> >
> > Absolutely.
> >
> >> To most intents and purposes it is as free as any other.
> >
> > Absolutely not.
> 
> Really? Most people who download lccwin32 - and I think it passed the 1 
> million download mark long ago - end up having to pay for it?
> 
> > No one, as far as I can see, objects to Jacob's model of "free for
> > non-commercial use, paid license for professional use".  The only
> > objection is to his describing it as "free" - and then to his vicious
> > personal attacks on someone who clarified the terms.
> 
> Now /that/ is nonsense. It's just persistent bullying.
> 
> I google for 'free anti-virus' and one of the links is "XXX Antivirus 
> FREE", and the website is free.xxx.com (hiding it so I'm not spamming). 
> The home page says "FREE Antivirus". But when you get to the download 
> page, there are also paid-for versions as well as the free one.
> 

I wasn't aware that Jacob offered a free version of his compiler for 
commercial use. He now has more than one version? Free, and a more 
complete paid-for version?

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#91001

FromBartC <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2016-07-25 15:41 +0100
Message-ID<nn58fl$aul$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90994
On 25/07/2016 15:30, Mark Storkamp wrote:
> In article <nn54on$tao$1@dont-email.me>, BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>
>> On 25/07/2016 12:21, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 23/07/16 23:08, BartC wrote:
>>
>>>> Someone asked about C compilers, and the lccwin one certainly belongs in
>>>> that list, especially if it's for Windows.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>>> To most intents and purposes it is as free as any other.
>>>
>>> Absolutely not.
>>
>> Really? Most people who download lccwin32 - and I think it passed the 1
>> million download mark long ago - end up having to pay for it?
>>
>>> No one, as far as I can see, objects to Jacob's model of "free for
>>> non-commercial use, paid license for professional use".  The only
>>> objection is to his describing it as "free" - and then to his vicious
>>> personal attacks on someone who clarified the terms.
>>
>> Now /that/ is nonsense. It's just persistent bullying.
>>
>> I google for 'free anti-virus' and one of the links is "XXX Antivirus
>> FREE", and the website is free.xxx.com (hiding it so I'm not spamming).
>> The home page says "FREE Antivirus". But when you get to the download
>> page, there are also paid-for versions as well as the free one.
>>
>
> I wasn't aware that Jacob offered a free version of his compiler for
> commercial use. He now has more than one version? Free, and a more
> complete paid-for version?

The point is that FREE is used everywhere until you get to the nitty 
gritty of the details. (Then you find out which features are free, 
several pages in.)

In the case of lccwin, everything is explained on the home page. A 
potential commercial customer will have wasted one click.

Not much more time wasted than clicking on follow-up posts, which have 
the effects of casting aspersions on the product and leaving a bad taste 
even if the OP was not a commercial customer.

(I remember following endless links to supposedly free products, which 
turned out to be time-limited versions. lccwin at least is not 
time-limited, is not a crippled version, and is not protected, AFAIK, 
from misuse.)

People are making a big deal out of 'absolutely' nothing.

-- 
bartc

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#90996

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2016-07-25 16:33 +0200
Message-ID<nn57vt$978$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90989
On 25/07/16 15:38, BartC wrote:
> On 25/07/2016 12:21, David Brown wrote:
>> On 23/07/16 23:08, BartC wrote:
> 
>>> Someone asked about C compilers, and the lccwin one certainly belongs in
>>> that list, especially if it's for Windows.
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>>> To most intents and purposes it is as free as any other.
>>
>> Absolutely not.
> 
> Really? Most people who download lccwin32 - and I think it passed the 1
> million download mark long ago - end up having to pay for it?

I have no idea how many people have downloaded lccwin32, or how many
people use it, or for what purposes.  But I would bet that many more
people download it than use it, and that a fair number of those that use
it actively do so in a commercial capacity of some sort (depending on
how Jacob defines "commercial") without paying the appropriate license.

> 
>> No one, as far as I can see, objects to Jacob's model of "free for
>> non-commercial use, paid license for professional use".  The only
>> objection is to his describing it as "free" - and then to his vicious
>> personal attacks on someone who clarified the terms.
> 
> Now /that/ is nonsense. It's just persistent bullying.
> 
> I google for 'free anti-virus' and one of the links is "XXX Antivirus
> FREE", and the website is free.xxx.com (hiding it so I'm not spamming).
> The home page says "FREE Antivirus". But when you get to the download
> page, there are also paid-for versions as well as the free one.
> 
> Is the description misleading? Inveigling someone in with the promise of
> free software, but then imposing restrictions on what is free and what
> isn't.
> 

I am fine with "free trial", "free for the first month", "free for
non-commercial use", or whatever.  But advertising something as "free"
when it is /not/ free, is misleading.  If I thought I had the slightest
hope in hell of stopping such misleading anti-virus software
advertising, I would complain to them too.  The difference is that Jacob
is a decent fellow who wants to sell his products because he really
believes them to be good tools that will do a good job for the customer.
 And as an active member of this group, he will see what I write here
and may be influenced by it.  Anti-virus salesmen sell mainly on the
basis of scaremongering and FUD, and have no interest in being clear or
upfront in their advertising.

> (And I've used this AV software for years and have never paid a penny.)
> 
> In the case of lccwin32, AFAIK there is nothing that physically stops
> you using it for commercial purposes without paying any money. Try using
> the extra features of the AV program without paying...
> 

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#90898

FromTim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2016-07-24 07:46 -0700
Message-ID<kfny44rrt4g.fsf@x-alumni2.alumni.caltech.edu>
In reply to#90820
jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:

> Le 22/07/2016  <<E0>>  21:22, Keith Thompson a ecrit :
>
>> And quoting the web page:
>>
>>     This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob
>>     Navia.  It's free for **non-commercial** use, if you use it
>>     professionally you have to have to buy a licence.
>>
>> (jacob, you might want to delete the extraneous "have to" there.)
>>
>> (I apologize for my newsreaders poor treatment of non-ASCII characters.)
>
> This person has posted this rubbish each time I answer somebody that
> is looking for a compiler.  [...]

I have a suggestion that may avoid having to deal with this again
in the future.  When someone asks about C compilers, how about
this -

    The lcc-win C compiler, for Microsoft Windows systems, and
    available as a free download for non-commercial users, can
    be found at

	http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

    The lcc-win compiler supports several significant extensions
    to C, including <list of up to four or five items>.

    Compiler source code is available under commercial licensing
    arrangements (website has more information).  Executables
    may be downloaded directly from the website.

    Full disclosure:  I hold a majority business interest
    in this lcc-win offering.

IMO this statement is perfectly appropriate as a response to a
request for information about C compilers.  (That assumes of
course that it does not misrepresent any material fact, but
AFAICT it doesn't.)  Based on what I see on the website, I
don't think anyone should feel any need to complain, object, or
try to clarify in response to it.  Please feel free to use this
text directly if you would like to.

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#91005

FromKen Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net>
Date2016-07-25 11:02 -0400
Message-ID<nn59ls$f9s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90820
On 7/22/2016 5:20 PM, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 22/07/2016 à 21:22, Keith Thompson a écrit :
[...]
>
> This person has posted this rubbish each time I answer somebody that is
> looking for a compiler.
>
> Implied is that I am shrewd and greedy guy trying to profit from others,
> even if he will (of course) deny all such claims.
>
> Since I haven't any means of figuring out how do you use my compiler, that
> clause is completely bogus and he knows that.
>
> By the way, it is a great idea to not give your code away in a GPL/Whatever
> license and keep the ownership of your work. That allows the author to pay
> the bills, and makes the stealing of his work by companies that specialize
> in selling GPL software impossible.
>
> Those companies make a buck without ever giving anything to the people that
> worked to write that code.
>
> I explicitely said that my software is NOT FREE in my web site, in the sense
> that I do not want you to steal it. My work is still my own.
>
> This comment is even more disgusting because the author of the original
> message di not even ask for free compilers. He asked if there are "other
> compilers" out there.

I agree with you on the "keep the ownership of your work" part.  Just 
because you are willing to give it away for free in some cases, doesn't mean 
you don't want it to remain "yours".

But, while the OP didn't ask for "free", your reply did say yours was a 
"free compiler".  Perhaps a simple "free (for non-commercial use) compiler" 
wording instead?  I understand you say that on the web page (BTW, he's 
correct about the double "have to have to"), but it can be seen as 
misleading to not say that here, when you do use the word "free".

FYI - My "real job" is writing commercial software, so it would make a 
difference to me.

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#92240

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-14 02:00 -0700
Message-ID<cd070038-d983-4732-8602-6e07946686e5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#90820
W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 23:20:54 UTC+2 użytkownik jacobnavia napisał:
> Le 22/07/2016 à 21:22, Keith Thompson a écrit :
> >
> > And quoting the web page:
> >
> >     This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob
> >     Navia. It's free for **non-commercial** use, if you use it
> >     professionally you have to have to buy a licence.
> >
> > (jacob, you might want to delete the extraneous "have to" there.)
> >
> > (I apologize for my newsreaders poor treatment of non-ASCII characters.)
> >
> 
> This person has posted this rubbish each time I answer somebody that is 
> looking for a compiler.
> 
> Implied is that I am shrewd and greedy guy trying to profit from others, 
> even if he will (of course) deny all such claims.
> 
> Since I haven't any means of figuring out how do you use my compiler, 
> that clause is completely bogus and he knows that.
> 
> By the way, it is a great idea to not give your code away in a 
> GPL/Whatever license and keep the ownership of your work. That allows 
> the author to pay the bills, and makes the stealing of his work by 
> companies that specialize in selling GPL software impossible.
> 
> Those companies make a buck without ever giving anything to the people 
> that worked to write that code.
> 
> I explicitely said that my software is NOT FREE in my web site, in the 
> sense that I do not want you to steal it. My work is still my own.
> 
> This comment is even more disgusting because the author of the original 
> message di not even ask for free compilers. He asked if there are "other 
> compilers" out there.

think we all know who or how keith thompson (common 'supertrolling' (and indeed disgusting) insulter and lunatic workhouse-fightin-devoted-fighter) is - he is specially disgusting and stupid character of this group i agree

 as to complilers you should gave better offer to make 
it people use it i think

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#92241

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-14 02:25 -0700
Message-ID<4e3b2e8f-5122-41ab-a720-dcad8aacbe62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#92240
W dniu niedziela, 14 sierpnia 2016 11:01:05 UTC+2 użytkownik fir napisał:
> W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 23:20:54 UTC+2 użytkownik jacobnavia napisał:
> > Le 22/07/2016 à 21:22, Keith Thompson a écrit :
> > >
> > > And quoting the web page:
> > >
> > >     This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob
> > >     Navia. It's free for **non-commercial** use, if you use it
> > >     professionally you have to have to buy a licence.
> > >
> > > (jacob, you might want to delete the extraneous "have to" there.)
> > >
> > > (I apologize for my newsreaders poor treatment of non-ASCII characters.)
> > >
> > 
> > This person has posted this rubbish each time I answer somebody that is 
> > looking for a compiler.
> > 
> > Implied is that I am shrewd and greedy guy trying to profit from others, 
> > even if he will (of course) deny all such claims.
> > 
> > Since I haven't any means of figuring out how do you use my compiler, 
> > that clause is completely bogus and he knows that.
> > 
> > By the way, it is a great idea to not give your code away in a 
> > GPL/Whatever license and keep the ownership of your work. That allows 
> > the author to pay the bills, and makes the stealing of his work by 
> > companies that specialize in selling GPL software impossible.
> > 
> > Those companies make a buck without ever giving anything to the people 
> > that worked to write that code.
> > 
> > I explicitely said that my software is NOT FREE in my web site, in the 
> > sense that I do not want you to steal it. My work is still my own.
> > 
> > This comment is even more disgusting because the author of the original 
> > message di not even ask for free compilers. He asked if there are "other 
> > compilers" out there.
> 
> think we all know who or how keith thompson (common 'supertrolling' (and indeed disgusting) insulter and lunatic workhouse-fightin-devoted-fighter) is - he is specially disgusting and stupid character of this group i agree
> 
>  as to complilers you should gave better offer to make 
> it people use it i think

thompson is imo so stupid and stupid making that no shallow words will suffice to express this aura of stupidity he make all the time - he is like braindamage in cildgood that spreads it in massive in later life - relly i dont think he should be tolerated here - his level of making this group so weak as it is is imo primary - when i see outcome of this fellow i often feel some kind of 'moral' sadness and real disgust

as to compiler you really should make better offert - if it is not better than gcc and yet is not free why one person should use it? it only has matter for his author (probably) until you will find end expose some feature that it make use it real option

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#90817

FromJens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net>
Date2016-07-22 20:42 +0000
Message-ID<nmu0fh$lsv$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#90795
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

> Which is the better compiler?

	Cats or dogs, which is better? Even better, let's dicuss which is 
better, the Republicans or the Democrats, Islam or Christianity, so we 
can have a more thorough bloodbath.

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#90818

Fromjacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Date2016-07-22 23:09 +0200
Message-ID<nmu21n$ll9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90817
Le 22/07/2016 à 22:42, Jens Stuckelberger a écrit :
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> Which is the better compiler?
>
> 	Cats or dogs, which is better? Even better, let's dicuss which is
> better, the Republicans or the Democrats, Islam or Christianity, so we
> can have a more thorough bloodbath.
>

????

We can discuss code generation speed, compilation speed, ease of use, 
features, licenses, many things.

Look, compilers aren't religions, or pets, or things "you believe in". 
Somehow we CAN be reasonable people and dicuss things in a civilized manner.

Personally I do not see much difference between the two, but it is just 
my opinion.

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#91002

FromKen Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net>
Date2016-07-25 10:50 -0400
Message-ID<nn58vf$cnr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90818
[Note: deleted the "comp.lang" and "c++" entries from "newsgroup".  I assume 
it was meant to be "comp.lang.c++", but the OP had a comma.]

On 7/22/2016 5:09 PM, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 22/07/2016 à 22:42, Jens Stuckelberger a écrit :
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> Which is the better compiler?
>>
>>     Cats or dogs, which is better? Even better, let's dicuss which is
>> better, the Republicans or the Democrats, Islam or Christianity, so we
>> can have a more thorough bloodbath.
>>
>
> ????
>
> We can discuss code generation speed, compilation speed, ease of use,
> features, licenses, many things.
>
> Look, compilers aren't religions, or pets, or things "you believe in".
> Somehow we CAN be reasonable people and dicuss things in a civilized manner.
>
> Personally I do not see much difference between the two, but it is just my
> opinion.

Except that all those things you list, including many others, all weigh 
differently to different people.  What might be "deal breaker" level to one 
person might be "doesn't affect my decision at all" to another.

In college, we had a FORTRAN compiler designed for classroom work.  It was 
extremely fast at compiling, but generated extremely poor code.  However, 
given that it would almost always be run numerous times before a successful 
compile, and once compiled, the program would be run only once, that made 
perfect sense for its usage.

Such a compiler might be "best" for a classroom full of people first 
learning programming, but not elsewhere.

Again, what is "best" depends on the situation.

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#90852

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2016-07-23 19:53 +0100
Message-ID<nn0eec$frc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90817
On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> Which is the better compiler?
>
> 	Cats or dogs, which is better?

Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#90866

Fromraltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
Date2016-07-23 19:50 +0000
Message-ID<5793ca3f.3288390@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#90852
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> Which is the better compiler?
> >
> > 	Cats or dogs, which is better?
> 
> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.

But they murder songbirds (and have even driven some to extinction), and
are therefore Evil.

AFAIAA neither gcc nor clang has ever killed a bird. Not even a penguin.

Richard

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#91006

FromKen Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net>
Date2016-07-25 11:07 -0400
Message-ID<nn59up$f9s$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90852
On 7/23/2016 2:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> Which is the better compiler?
>>
>>     Cats or dogs, which is better?
>
> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.

<post type="devil's advocate">

Dogs.  More interactive, and more intimidating to people coming to the front 
door.

<!-- NB: I have two cats and a dog. -->

</post>

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#91020

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2016-07-25 17:16 +0100
Message-ID<nn5e07$uuc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91006
On 25/07/16 16:07, Ken Brody wrote:
> On 7/23/2016 2:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>>
>>>     Cats or dogs, which is better?
>>
>> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.
>
> <post type="devil's advocate">
>
> Dogs.  More interactive,

"Interactive" is the Microsoft way of saying "this process is manual".

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#91126

Fromraltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
Date2016-07-27 07:27 +0000
Message-ID<57986250.1380531@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#91020
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> On 25/07/16 16:07, Ken Brody wrote:
> > On 7/23/2016 2:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Cats or dogs, which is better?
> >>
> >> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.
> >
> > <post type="devil's advocate">
> >
> > Dogs.  More interactive,
> 
> "Interactive" is the Microsoft way of saying "this process is manual".

With a pet, that's exactly what you want.

Richard

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#91127

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2016-07-27 08:29 +0100
Message-ID<nn9ntd$7tl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91126
On 27/07/16 08:27, Richard Bos wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 25/07/16 16:07, Ken Brody wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2016 2:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Cats or dogs, which is better?
>>>>
>>>> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.
>>>
>>> <post type="devil's advocate">
>>>
>>> Dogs.  More interactive,
>>
>> "Interactive" is the Microsoft way of saying "this process is manual".
>
> With a pet, that's exactly what you want.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#91155

FromKen Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net>
Date2016-07-27 12:29 -0400
Message-ID<nnani5$mjd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91020
On 7/25/2016 12:16 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 25/07/16 16:07, Ken Brody wrote:
>> On 7/23/2016 2:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> On 22/07/16 21:42, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Cats or dogs, which is better?
>>>
>>> Cats. Lower maintenance requirements, and far less slobbery.
>>
>> <post type="devil's advocate">
>>
>> Dogs.  More interactive,
>
> "Interactive" is the Microsoft way of saying "this process is manual".

Sorry, but the manual is not included.

:-)

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#92243

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-14 02:44 -0700
Message-ID<af75c3e0-2e10-4027-b044-5718dbc0d19b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#90817
W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 22:42:32 UTC+2 użytkownik Jens Stuckelberger napisał:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:45 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
> 
> > Which is the better compiler?
> 
> 	Cats or dogs, which is better? Even better, let's dicuss which is 
> better, the Republicans or the Democrats, Islam or Christianity, so we 
> can have a more thorough bloodbath.

this question is not bad.. but is hard to answer becouse you would 
need a good knowledge on both compilers and both are complex thing

i could answer only if gcc vs bcc32 (old borland 55) is better 
(as i know both) - tehnically gcc is far better becouse bcc32 
generates real old code with some traps (not too mention here)

 

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#90819

FromBartC <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2016-07-22 22:18 +0100
Message-ID<nmu2iv$mo0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90795
On 22/07/2016 18:29, The Doctor wrote:
> Which is the better compiler?

My experience of using Clang is that it is not complete: it assumes a 
gcc installation (so that it can make use of gcc's header files and 
possibly libraries too).

So if you could only install one, gcc would make more sense...

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Bartc

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