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  [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-21 11:52 +0200
    Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-09-21 15:59 +0000
      Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 00:19 +0200
        Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 00:40 +0200
          Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-21 16:18 -0700
            Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:38 -0400
          Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-22 01:47 +0000
            Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 07:10 +0200
          Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:46 +0200
            Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:54 +0200
            Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-25 21:54 +0000
              Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 08:19 +0200
                Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-27 00:29 -0700
                  Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 11:43 +0200
                    Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 11:54 +0200
                      Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 11:57 +0200
                        Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 12:00 +0200
        Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 16:40 +0200
        Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-09-22 17:04 +0000
    Re: [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-09-22 05:58 -0700

#71012 — [OT] DNA human manipulation in GB

http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce

human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be

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#71019

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:

> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
> 
> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be

	Why? Because you say so?

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#71046

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>
>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
>blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
>> 
>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>
>	Why? 

because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...

>Because you say so?

there was one other error the nuclear power too
and one other, 
science build weapon too much danger
and science goes on...

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#71049

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:19:57 +0200, Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
>>blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
>>> 
>>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>>
>>	Why? 
>
>because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...

pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
plans and animal virus etc too
"la vita non e' brevettabile "

>>Because you say so?
>
>there was one other error the nuclear power too
>and one other, 
>science build weapon too much danger
>and science goes on...

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#71056

Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> writes:
[...]
> pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
> plans and animal virus etc too
> "la vita non e' brevettabile "

This has nothing to do with C, and it does not belong in this newsgroup,
with or without "[OT]" in the subject line.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#71147

"Keith Thompson" <kst-u@mib.org> wrote in message 
news:lneghr9xa0.fsf@kst-u.example.com...
> This has nothing to do with C, and it does not belong in this newsgroup,
> with or without "[OT]" in the subject line.

    I think you're right on this one.

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#71060

Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> wrote:

(snip)

> pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
> plans and animal virus etc too
> "la vita non e' brevettabile "

But not all the DNA stuff that nature does?

How about artificial selection, accidental selection, radiation,
or all the other ways of modifying DNA other than cut and paste?

-- glen

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#71064

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 01:47:03 +0000 (UTC), glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
>Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
>> plans and animal virus etc too
>> "la vita non e' brevettabile "
>
>But not all the DNA stuff that nature does?
>
>How about artificial selection, accidental selection, radiation,
>or all the other ways of modifying DNA other than cut and paste?

for me are a little better "artificial selection, accidental
selection" because there is something left to chance to God
intervention.

but i remember the bread of 20-30 years ago and the apples and
tomatoes
they are many way better [taste and smell] of the ones we find now
here

>-- glen

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#71066

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:40:39 +0200, Rosario19  wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:19:57 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
>>>blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
>>>> 
>>>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>>>
>>>	Why? 
>>
>>because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...
>
>pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
>plans and animal virus etc too
>"la vita non e' brevettabile "
>
>>>Because you say so?
>>
>>there was one other error the nuclear power too
>>and one other, 
>>science build weapon too much danger
>>and science goes on...

what about creation of money from NULL that seems to me banks make?

creation money from NULL has to be control/make from state national
and politics for [to help] their people

is not for private banks and who controll them... with that who
control the banks is +oo rich...

there is a problem with money not in paper... elettronic money and
creation of money from NULL

then the chip they want install on human body or credit card chip
seems to me like the 666 number Bible said... ["whitout that no one
sell and no one buy"
but this is for paper money too, but for money there would be not the
controll as the chip]

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#71067

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:46:09 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:40:39 +0200, Rosario19  wrote:
>>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:19:57 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>>>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
>>>>blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
>>>>> 
>>>>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>>>>
>>>>	Why? 
>>>
>>>because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...
>>
>>pheraps it is not clear i'm against all DNA cut and paste they do in
>>plans and animal virus etc too
>>"la vita non e' brevettabile "
>>
>>>>Because you say so?
>>>
>>>there was one other error the nuclear power too
>>>and one other, 
>>>science build weapon too much danger
>>>and science goes on...
>
>what about creation of money from NULL that seems to me banks make?
>
>creation money from NULL has to be control/make from state national
>and politics for [to help] their people
>
>is not for private banks and who controll them... with that who
>control the banks is +oo rich...
>
>there is a problem with money not in paper... elettronic money and
>creation of money from NULL
>
>then the chip they want install on human body or credit card chip
>seems to me like the 666 number Bible said... ["whitout that no one
>sell and no one buy"
>but this is for paper money too, but for money there would be not the
>controll as the chip]

quando quelli propongono qualche novita' qualche cambiamento, bisogna
aspettarsi sempre un trucco sotto...

meglio fidarsi della vecchia struttura del vecchio
che il nuovo

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#71203

On Tue, 2015-09-22, Rosario19 wrote:
...
> what about creation of money from NULL that seems to me banks make?

Seems fine to me, as long as you don't dereference it.
And by the way, *plonk*.  Again.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#71256

On 25 Sep 2015 21:54:08 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
wrote:

>On Tue, 2015-09-22, Rosario19 wrote:
>...
>> what about creation of money from NULL that seems to me banks make?
>
>Seems fine to me, as long as you don't dereference it.
>And by the way, *plonk*.  Again.

i d0n't know where you live but here we give 4MLD of euro of taxes to
one bank MPS and i don't know how many euro the italian state miss for
that operation [i suppose all because they pay with "azioni stessa
banca"]

than if we speak of elettronic money what make they the stop, to
create an account of
100000000000000000000000000000000000.00 € 
from null???

>/Jorgen

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#71258

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 7:19:34 AM UTC+1, Rosario19 wrote:
> 
> i d0n't know where you live but here we give 4MLD of euro of taxes to
> one bank MPS and i don't know how many euro the italian state miss for
> that operation [i suppose all because they pay with "azioni stessa
> banca"]
> 
> than if we speak of elettronic money what make they the stop, to
> create an account of
> 100000000000000000000000000000000000.00 EURO 
> from null???
> 
Central banks can print money or, these days, generate it electronically,
at will. What they can't do is dictate what that money shall be worth.
Governments make the money valuable by declaring it good for taxes,
without taxes, Bank of England notes would be worth exactly the same
as Monopoly bank notes.

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#71263

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:29:58 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McLean
<malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 7:19:34 AM UTC+1, Rosario19 wrote:
>> 
>> i d0n't know where you live but here we give 4MLD of euro of taxes to
>> one bank MPS and i don't know how many euro the italian state miss for
>> that operation [i suppose all because they pay with "azioni stessa
>> banca"]
>> 
>> than if we speak of elettronic money what make they the stop, to
>> create an account of
>> 100000000000000000000000000000000000.00 EURO 
>> from null???
>> 
>Central banks can print money or, these days, generate it electronically,
>at will. 

this offer to who work on these computer programs a way to create
money from null

>What they can't do is dictate what that money shall be worth.
>Governments make the money valuable by declaring it good for taxes,
>without taxes, Bank of England notes would be worth exactly the same
>as Monopoly bank notes.

one other problem is if the "central bank" can be a private bank
so could create money from null, *for who controll that bank* 

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#71264

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:43:28 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:

I'm not like you, right-thinking
for me every new change , *** there is a trick ***

then you see a miserable thief
throughout all his life how much could steal: one million euro?

in this way one could steal a lot more... 
for those who say that electronic money offers more safety
-----------------
io non sono come voi, benpensante
x me ogni nuovo cambiamento: "c'è il trucco"

poi vedete un misero ladro
in tutta la vita potra' rubare quanto: un milione di euro?
in questo modo si potrebbe rubare molto di piu'
per quelli che dicono che la moneta elettronica offre piu' sicurezza

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#71265

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:54:29 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:43:28 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>
>I'm not like you, right-thinking
>for me every new change , *** there is a trick ***
>
>then you see a miserable thief
>throughout all his life how much could steal: one million euro?
>
>in this way one could steal a lot more... 
>for those who say that electronic money offers more safety
>-----------------
>io non sono come voi, benpensante
>x me ogni nuovo cambiamento: "c'è il trucco"
>
>poi vedete un misero ladro
>in tutta la vita potra' rubare quanto: un milione di euro?
>in questo modo si potrebbe rubare molto di piu'
>per quelli che dicono che la moneta elettronica offre piu' sicu

but the main problem is
never make DNA human manipulation in embryo

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#71266

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:57:17 +0200, Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>but the main problem is
>never make DNA human manipulation in embryo

abortion and radioactive pollution, pollution, weapons [nuclear
biological etc]

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#71096

On 22.09.2015 00:19, Rosario19 wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/
>> blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce

2006? Quite old.

>>>
>>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>>
>> 	Why?
>
> because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...


This is unix kernel manipulation, this, has not to be
...
because we are not smart enough... we are not gods...

bartekltg

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#71100

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:19:57 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC), Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:53 +0200, Rosario19 wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/
genetica/
>>blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
>>> 
>>> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be
>>
>>	Why?
> 
> because we are not enought smart... we are not gods...

	I am sure you are not smart enough, and as for the god thing - 
well, we also not the Tooth Fairy.

> 
>>Because you say so?
> 
> there was one other error the nuclear power too and one other,
> science build weapon too much danger and science goes on...

	Spare us your goody-goody attitude. It's because you say so, and 
it won't happen because you say so.

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#71093

On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 11:53:04 AM UTC+2, Rosario19 wrote:
> http://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/genetica/blair-genetica/blair-genetica.html?refresh_ce
> 
> human DNA manipulation, this, has not to be

Relax, the article is from 2007. We've already done much more than that.

Ciao!

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