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Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux)

Started by"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com>
First post2015-09-16 06:18 +0200
Last post2015-09-17 17:06 +0200
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  Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 06:18 +0200
    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 17:06 +1200
      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 08:00 +0200
        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 09:00 +0200
          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 02:03 -0700
            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 11:20 +0200
              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:08 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 13:26 +0200
                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 17:47 +0200
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 09:37 -0700
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:41 +0200
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 07:06 -0700
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:22 +0200
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 23:13 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:35 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-16 18:12 +0200
              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 13:18 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 08:47 -0700
                  Re: Quoting Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 20:30 +0200
                    Re: Quoting Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 11:41 -0700
                      Re: Quoting Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 20:53 +0200
                        Re: Quoting Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 12:19 -0700
                          Re: Quoting Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 21:49 +0200
                            Re: Quoting Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:24 -0700
              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-16 18:14 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:22 +0200
                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-16 18:29 +0200
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:31 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 12:48 -0400
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:56 +0200
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 13:09 -0400
                            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 23:41 +0200
                              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 18:05 -0400
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 12:13 -0500
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 10:13 -0700
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:01 -0700
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 10:02 -0700
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0700
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:10 -0700
                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 10:33 -0700
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:40 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 12:50 -0500
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:55 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 13:57 -0400
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 11:02 -0700
                  Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 20:50 +0200
                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 12:20 -0700
                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 23:33 +0200
                        Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 17:52 -0400
                          Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 00:03 +0200
                            Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 15:21 -0700
                              Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 00:30 +0200
                                Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 00:26 +0100
                              Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 21:24 -0700
                                Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 05:48 +0100
                                  Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:16 -0700
                                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 17:00 +0100
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 11:23 -0700
                                MSVC deprecation (was Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 23:31 -0700
                                  Re: MSVC deprecation (was Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet) Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:33 -0700
                            Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 11:46 +0200
                            Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 22:26 +1200
                              Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 11:17 +0000
                                Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 13:33 +0200
                                  Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 13:56 +0200
                                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 14:20 +0200
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 13:28 +0100
                                        Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 15:18 +0200
                                          Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 12:29 +0000
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 05:34 -0700
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 14:48 +0200
                                        Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:52 -0400
                                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:50 -0400
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 12:57 +0000
                                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 13:52 +0100
                                  Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 07:13 -0700
                                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 07:42 -0700
                                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 07:55 -0700
                                        Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 05:51 -0700
                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 16:27 -0400
                    Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 23:35 +0200
                      Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 00:36 +0100
                        Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 08:09 +0200
                          Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 07:59 +0100
                          Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 01:13 -0700
                            Re: Hidden agendas on Usenet "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 13:08 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 23:22 +0200
                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-09-17 08:57 -0400
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 15:28 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 09:45 -0400
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-09-17 22:56 -0400
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-18 10:19 +0200
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 23:01 -0500
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-18 10:20 +0200
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-18 09:23 +0100
                            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-18 14:08 +0200
                            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-18 08:48 -0700
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2015-09-18 16:44 -0400
                            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-18 17:33 -0400
                              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2015-09-19 21:12 -0400
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-09-21 09:10 +0000
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0000
            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 08:34 -0700
              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 09:33 -0700
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 10:43 -0700
                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 12:29 -0700
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:10 -0700
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 13:42 -0700
                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 14:04 -0700
                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-16 14:34 -0700
                            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 15:01 -0700
                              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-09-16 22:26 -0400
                                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-17 13:46 +0200
                                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 12:48 +0100
                                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-19 12:40 -0700
                                  Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-09-21 09:14 +0000
                                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-21 06:13 -0700
                                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-21 17:39 +0100
                                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-10-02 13:21 +0000
                                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-02 13:25 -0700
                                        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-10-04 13:51 +0000
                                          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-04 15:45 -0700
                              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 21:39 -0700
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-17 00:42 +0100
                      Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 07:34 -0700
                    Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 23:55 -0500
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:03 -0500
        Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:31 +1200
          Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 11:06 +0200
            Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 21:17 +1200
              Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 11:56 +0200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 08:59 -0700
                  Re: "gcc" on OS X Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-16 21:43 +0200
                    Re: "gcc" on OS X Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:20 -0700
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 08:25 +1200
                Re: Compiling C project for Windows and Mac OS X (GCC for Linux) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 11:21 +0000
                  Re: gcc not a symlink on Mac OS X Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 17:06 +0200

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#70676 — Re: Quoting

FromNoob <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2015-09-16 20:53 +0200
SubjectRe: Quoting
Message-ID<mtcdnv$8rb$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70673
On 16/09/2015 20:41, Keith Thompson wrote:

> The point is that I didn't read your article closely enough.

OK, but you considered it important to point out that the article
was 2 years old. Does that mean that

1) the features should now be widely available?
2) MS didn't implement the features they promised?
3) something else?

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#70679 — Re: Quoting

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2015-09-16 12:19 -0700
SubjectRe: Quoting
Message-ID<ln4miujhoz.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#70676
Noob <root@127.0.0.1> writes:
> On 16/09/2015 20:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> The point is that I didn't read your article closely enough.
>
> OK, but you considered it important to point out that the article
> was 2 years old. Does that mean that
>
> 1) the features should now be widely available?
> 2) MS didn't implement the features they promised?
> 3) something else?

It indicates that the article is 2 years old.

If you're looking for some hidden agenda on my part, you're not going to
find it.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#70689 — Re: Quoting

FromNoob <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2015-09-16 21:49 +0200
SubjectRe: Quoting
Message-ID<mtch08$mmb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70679
On 16/09/2015 21:19, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Noob writes:
>> On 16/09/2015 20:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> The point is that I didn't read your article closely enough.
>>
>> OK, but you considered it important to point out that the article
>> was 2 years old. Does that mean that
>>
>> 1) the features should now be widely available?
>> 2) MS didn't implement the features they promised?
>> 3) something else?
> 
> It indicates that the article is 2 years old.

Why is it relevant to you that the article is not from last week?
What if it had been written 2 months ago, would that be worth
pointing out? (Why?)

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#70699 — Re: Quoting

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2015-09-16 13:24 -0700
SubjectRe: Quoting
Message-ID<lna8smi02u.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#70689
Noob <root@127.0.0.1> writes:
> On 16/09/2015 21:19, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Noob writes:
>>> On 16/09/2015 20:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>> The point is that I didn't read your article closely enough.
>>>
>>> OK, but you considered it important to point out that the article
>>> was 2 years old. Does that mean that
>>>
>>> 1) the features should now be widely available?
>>> 2) MS didn't implement the features they promised?
>>> 3) something else?
>> 
>> It indicates that the article is 2 years old.
>
> Why is it relevant to you that the article is not from last week?
> What if it had been written 2 months ago, would that be worth
> pointing out? (Why?)

For trivial reasons that I don't feel like spending my time explaining.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#70643

Fromjacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Date2015-09-16 18:14 +0200
Message-ID<mtc4dm$38q$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70619
Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
> or
> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.

Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...

All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a 
warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that 
is all.

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#70644

From"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 18:22 +0200
Message-ID<mtc4vs$705$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#70643
On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>> or
>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>
> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>
> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
> is all.

Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?

-Morten

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#70646

Fromjacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Date2015-09-16 18:29 +0200
Message-ID<mtc595$6s1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70644
Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>> or
>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>
>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>
>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>> is all.
>
> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
>
> -Morten
>

I receive a daily paycheck from Bill Gates.

I told you some FACTS, so I am bound to be payed by the GREAT MASTER OF 
THE UNIVERSE Bill Gates himself.

So, you ask questions here, but if somebody tells you some factual 
answers you have no other business than to insult them?

Go to hell moron

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#70647

From"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 18:31 +0200
Message-ID<mtc5hj$8pr$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#70646
On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
>> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>>> or
>>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>>
>>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>>
>>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>>> is all.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
>>
>> -Morten
>>
>
> I receive a daily paycheck from Bill Gates.
>
> I told you some FACTS, so I am bound to be payed by the GREAT MASTER OF
> THE UNIVERSE Bill Gates himself.
>
> So, you ask questions here, but if somebody tells you some factual
> answers you have no other business than to insult them?
>
> Go to hell moron

So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..

:)

-Morten

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#70651

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2015-09-16 12:48 -0400
Message-ID<55F99D73.8020903@verizon.net>
In reply to#70647
On 09/16/2015 12:31 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
> On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
>> Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
>>> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>>>> or
>>>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>>>
>>>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>>>
>>>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>>>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>>>> is all.
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
>>>
>>> -Morten
>>>
>>
>> I receive a daily paycheck from Bill Gates.
>>
>> I told you some FACTS, so I am bound to be payed by the GREAT MASTER OF
>> THE UNIVERSE Bill Gates himself.
>>
>> So, you ask questions here, but if somebody tells you some factual
>> answers you have no other business than to insult them?
>>
>> Go to hell moron
> 
> So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..

There was nothing simple about it - I'm not sure what you were going for
with that question, but I can't see any relevance to the question unless
it was intended to support a claim of bias. His biases are irrelevant
when he's making statements about facts. If those statements are false,
then all you have to address is the evidence that they are false,
there's no need to question his motives. Do you in fact claim that one
or more of his facts are incorrect? If so, identify which ones, and
provide supporting evidence (I don't use Windows, so I have no idea
whether he's right or not).

Claims of bias are more relevant when matters of judgment are involved -
but I didn't see any matters of judgment being discussed in his message.

He provides a compiler targeting Windows platforms (and therefore in
competition with Microsoft's compiler) that is free except for
commercial users. He's said that he doesn't sell anything, so apparently
no commercial users have bought his software, so he's not getting any
money from Windows, directly or indirectly.

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#70652

From"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 18:56 +0200
Message-ID<mtc70p$cke$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#70651
On 16.09.2015 18:48, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 09/16/2015 12:31 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
>> On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
>>> Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
>>>> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>>>>
>>>>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>>>>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>>>>> is all.
>>>>
>>>> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
[...]
>>> Go to hell moron
[...]
>> So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..
[...]
> He provides a compiler targeting Windows platforms (and therefore in
> competition with Microsoft's compiler) that is free except for
> commercial users. He's said that he doesn't sell anything, so apparently
> no commercial users have bought his software, so he's not getting any
> money from Windows, directly or indirectly.

Well he still hasn't answered my question, and you're guessing..

So I'm still waiting for a good answer.

-Morten

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#70654

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2015-09-16 13:09 -0400
Message-ID<55F9A23D.9090509@verizon.net>
In reply to#70652
On 09/16/2015 12:56 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
> On 16.09.2015 18:48, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 09/16/2015 12:31 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
>>> On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>> Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
>>>>> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>>>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>>>>>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>>>>>> is all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
> [...]
>>>> Go to hell moron
> [...]
>>> So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..
> [...]
>> He provides a compiler targeting Windows platforms (and therefore in
>> competition with Microsoft's compiler) that is free except for
>> commercial users. He's said that he doesn't sell anything, so apparently
>> no commercial users have bought his software, so he's not getting any
>> money from Windows, directly or indirectly.
> 
> Well he still hasn't answered my question, and you're guessing..

I'm not guessing. Everything I wrote that you quoted above is based on
his previous public statements in this newsgroup. If you haven't seen
such comments, that's just because you haven't been monitoring this
group long enough. He's even given out his web-site's URL, and I checked
it out myself (just to confirm what he had already said about commercial
users - I found it confusing, in combination with his claim that he
wasn't selling anything).

> So I'm still waiting for a good answer.

Why do you deserve an answer, good or bad, to an irrelevant question? If
he hadn't already broadcast the answer to that question to the general
public, he'd be well within his rights to object to that question as
excessively personal.

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#70725

From"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 23:41 +0200
Message-ID<mtcnm8$m4b$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#70654
On 16.09.2015 19:09, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 09/16/2015 12:56 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
[...]
>> Well he still hasn't answered my question, and you're guessing..
>
> I'm not guessing. Everything I wrote that you quoted above is based on
> his previous public statements in this newsgroup. If you haven't seen
> such comments, that's just because you haven't been monitoring this
> group long enough. He's even given out his web-site's URL, and I checked
> it out myself (just to confirm what he had already said about commercial
> users - I found it confusing, in combination with his claim that he
> wasn't selling anything).

To quote the other post from Jacob I didn't reply to:

Other post:
 >
 > Look, there is
 >
 > 1) The MS bashing contest
 > 2) The facts
 >
 > If you use functions deprecated by Microsoft like "strlen" you will
 > get a warning about it. That is a warning, and compilation will go on
 > as usual.
 >
 > If you do not like the warning you can add a #define to silence the
 > warnings, it is something like "NO_DEPRECATE" or similar, I do not
 > remember exactly.

Well, might we be talking about the default again?  Is it necessary
to replace the default and standard functionality of C with something
custom, that ties the user to a specific platform?

How big of a hurdle are these custom C features to porting a program
to another platform?  I'm wondering about the pattern here, a pattern
similar to what they did with the web and internet explorer and now
possibly their "Edge" browser.

-Morten

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#70735

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2015-09-16 18:05 -0400
Message-ID<55F9E7B4.5020900@verizon.net>
In reply to#70725
On 09/16/2015 05:41 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
...
> To quote the other post from Jacob I didn't reply to:
> 
> Other post:
>  >
>  > Look, there is
>  >
>  > 1) The MS bashing contest
>  > 2) The facts
>  >
>  > If you use functions deprecated by Microsoft like "strlen" you will
>  > get a warning about it. That is a warning, and compilation will go on
>  > as usual.
>  >
>  > If you do not like the warning you can add a #define to silence the
>  > warnings, it is something like "NO_DEPRECATE" or similar, I do not
>  > remember exactly.
> 
> Well, might we be talking about the default again?  Is it necessary
> to replace the default and standard functionality of C with something
> custom, that ties the user to a specific platform?

The standard functionality of C includes the possibility of producing
arbitrary warning messages. A compiler that fully conforms to the C
standard can provide warnings about anything it wants to: it could
complain about the fact that your program uses identifiers containing an
odd number of characters. This is why I reject the idea, that many
people promote, that it is essential to write your code in such a way
that it produces no warning messages on any compiler.

If you want to pay more attention to a warning than is justified by the
fact that it is labeled only as a "warning" and not an "error", that's
your choice. If you don't like a given compiler because it produces too
many spurious warnings, that's a legitimate complaint, and I might agree
with you - but it isn't a portability issue unless those warning
messages prevent a strictly conforming program from compiling and
executing in conformance with the requirements of the standard.

> How big of a hurdle are these custom C features to porting a program
> to another platform? ...

It's only as big a hurdle as you make it into. By themselves, diagnostic
messages not mandated by the standard, and which do not prevent a
program from compiling and executing in accordance with the requirements
of the standard, present no hurdle to me whatsoever.

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#70655

FromMartin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com>
Date2015-09-16 12:13 -0500
Message-ID<mtc7rf$hdg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70652
On 9/16/2015 11:56 AM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
> On 16.09.2015 18:48, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 09/16/2015 12:31 PM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
>>> On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>> Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
>>>>> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>>>>>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
> [...]
>>>> Go to hell moron
> [...]
>>> So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..
> [...]
>> He provides a compiler targeting Windows platforms (and therefore in
>> competition with Microsoft's compiler) that is free except for
>> commercial users. He's said that he doesn't sell anything, so apparently
>> no commercial users have bought his software, so he's not getting any
>> money from Windows, directly or indirectly.
>
> Well he still hasn't answered my question, and you're guessing..

The above was all publicly disclosed by the one who would best know the 
truth about it. Some of it can even be directly verified.

> So I'm still waiting for a good answer.

Quite frankly, I don't see how the answer is any of your business.

Martin Shobe

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#70656

FromMalcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com>
Date2015-09-16 10:13 -0700
Message-ID<85f1e25d-c898-4a3a-a51b-facfb6910faf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70652
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 5:57:13 PM UTC+1, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
>
> Well he still hasn't answered my question, and you're guessing..
> 
> So I'm still waiting for a good answer.
> 
He earns his living from commercial licences for his compiler.

It's not uncommon for software companies to charge for professional
use and to charge a much lower rate or allow the product to be used
for free by students, amateurs, and potential purchasers for assessment
purposes.
It's no secret and has been discussed many times here.

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#70712

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 14:01 -0700
Message-ID<010fbc06-ea4a-4277-9503-8d0e8278c53f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70652
W dniu środa, 16 września 2015 18:57:13 UTC+2 użytkownik Morten W. Petersen napisał:
> 
> So I'm still waiting for a good answer.
> 

lol, what an obvious primitive - this is almost amazing

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#70653

FromMalcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com>
Date2015-09-16 10:02 -0700
Message-ID<3ed2d48f-d788-4e4f-91e3-5880b5084cfd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70651
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 5:49:10 PM UTC+1, James Kuyper wrote:
>
> He provides a compiler targeting Windows platforms (and therefore in
> competition with Microsoft's compiler) that is free except for
> commercial users. He's said that he doesn't sell anything, so apparently
> no commercial users have bought his software, so he's not getting any
> money from Windows, directly or indirectly.
>
No, that's a language / willingness to understand issue.

Jacob has a compiler which he mentions frequently on this newsgroup,
obviously in the hope of getting some users. He has therefore been 
accused of using the newsgroup as a sales platform. He rejects that
accusation, since the compiler is free for hobbyist use, so free to the
majority of newsgroup participants. Only those who are self-employed
developers are direct target customers.

In my view it's perfectly legitimate to mention your own work when it
is clearly C-related, and Jacob's posts do not constitute an unreasonable
use of the group. 

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#70709

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 13:53 -0700
Message-ID<72982917-971c-4117-8017-6914cd1f86dc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70647
W dniu środa, 16 września 2015 18:31:57 UTC+2 użytkownik Morten W. Petersen napisał:
> On 16.09.2015 18:29, jacobnavia wrote:
> > Le 16/09/2015 18:22, Morten W. Petersen a écrit :
> >> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
> >>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
> >>>> or
> >>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
> >>>
> >>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
> >>>
> >>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
> >>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
> >>> is all.
> >>
> >> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?
> >>
> >> -Morten
> >>
> >
> > I receive a daily paycheck from Bill Gates.
> >
> > I told you some FACTS, so I am bound to be payed by the GREAT MASTER OF
> > THE UNIVERSE Bill Gates himself.
> >
> > So, you ask questions here, but if somebody tells you some factual
> > answers you have no other business than to insult them?
> >
> > Go to hell moron
> 
> So you resort to aggression when I ask you a perfectly simple question..
> 
> :)
> 
> -Morten

yea i agre perfectly simple indeed
if you not see how 'impertinent' / 'arrogant swine' this type of question is then youre
in quite poor state (dont bring 5cm diameter brain here ;c

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#70715

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 14:10 -0700
Message-ID<ca922c39-e74c-4fb5-835b-c976918d28db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70646
W dniu środa, 16 września 2015 18:29:19 UTC+2 użytkownik jacobnavia napisał:
> 
> Go to hell moron

well said

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#70659

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2015-09-16 10:33 -0700
Message-ID<lnpp1ijmkl.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#70644
"Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> writes:
> On 16.09.2015 18:14, jacobnavia wrote:
>> Le 16/09/2015 11:20, David Brown a écrit :
>>> or
>>> has declared to be "unsafe" and therefore not immediately available.
>>
>> Please just keep the facts clear and do not spread FUD...
>>
>> All functions of C89 are available under MSVC as always. You will get a
>> warning (that can be avoided by adding a #define) if you use them, that
>> is all.
>
> Just out of curiosity, who pays your bills?

Just out of curiosity, why do you care about something that's none of
your business, and that has no apparent relevance to anything discussed
in this newsgroup in general, or in this thread in particular?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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