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| Started by | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-12 05:01 -0800 |
| Last post | 2017-05-04 16:29 -0700 |
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Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 05:01 -0800
Whackjob (Was: Go to church) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-12 13:13 +0000
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:33 +0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-12 19:51 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 20:51 -0800
Re: Go to church Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-02-13 12:37 -0500
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 09:54 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-13 16:00 -0800
Re: Go to church Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-16 19:27 -0700
Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +0000
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:46 -0700
Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-13 14:15 -0400
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:29 -0800
Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:01 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 15:24 -0800
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 01:01 +0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:30 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:52 -0800
Re: Go to church asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-02-15 00:42 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:11 -0800
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 22:14 +0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:10 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:15 -0800
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:03 +0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:11 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 17:41 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 18:24 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 19:25 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 20:40 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 03:35 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 04:39 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 16:54 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:15 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:19 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 18:25 -0800
Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-16 17:28 -0800
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:44 -0800
Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:59 +0000
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 03:34 -0800
Re: Go to church Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-18 15:20 -0800
Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 06:31 -0800
Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:54 +0000
Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-23 16:12 -0800
Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-24 10:20 +0000
Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-01 13:54 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:05 -0700
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:57 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:45 -0700
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:02 +0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:08 -0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 09:26 -0800
Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 22:04 +0800
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 06:20 -0800
Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 22:44 +0800
Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 07:15 -0800
Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 00:09 +0800
Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:26 -0800
Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 01:01 +0800
Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 09:10 -0800
Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:27 +0800
Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 04:33 -0800
Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 13:39 +0000
Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 06:09 -0800
Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 07:43 -0800
Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:03 +0000
Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:05 +0000
Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:20 -0800
Re: Go to church David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:31 -0700
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:41 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:33 -0700
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:27 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:41 -0700
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 05:23 -0700
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 19:51 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:58 -0700
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:38 -0700
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:23 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:38 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:39 -0700
Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:34 -0700
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 07:33 -0800
Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-16 16:59 -0400
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 21:30 -0800
Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-19 01:15 -0400
Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:24 -0800
Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +0100
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:53 -0700
Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 08:59 +0200
Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:32 -0700
Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 10:39 +0200
C#/Mono independence (Re: Go to church) joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 16:29 -0700
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-17 09:10 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <c603b1da-bcd1-45ac-856a-5b371647b020@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #104071 |
On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 12:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> No interesting in your magic stuff... Walking away.... again! :)
If you do ever decide you want to know more, the door is always open:
http://www.libsf.org/misc/love.html
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 16:27 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <o8bkqh$dbt$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #104073 |
On 18/02/2017 1:10 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > If you do ever decide you want to know more, the door is always open: > > http://www.libsf.org/misc/love.html You should directly ask governments for funding, not me. I don't print money. :) -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 04:33 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <6d123198-de79-4a8c-a0aa-24d8b84befb9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #104172 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 18/02/2017 1:10 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > If you do ever decide you want to know more, the door is always open: > > http://www.libsf.org/misc/love.html > > You should directly ask governments for funding, not me. > I don't print money. :) You derive a "money intent" from my posts? You are mistaken. Salvation is free. It is your eternal soul that needs saved. That is my interest, and my concern. Not money. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 13:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <o8c765$s8h$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #104187 |
In article <6d123198-de79-4a8c-a0aa-24d8b84befb9@googlegroups.com>, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: >Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> On 18/02/2017 1:10 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > If you do ever decide you want >to know more, the door is always open: >> > http://www.libsf.org/misc/love.html >> >> You should directly ask governments for funding, not me. >> I don't print money. :) > >You derive a "money intent" from my posts? You are mistaken. > >Salvation is free. It is your eternal soul that needs saved. That >is my interest, and my concern. Not money. Is there adverrtising on your site? (*) (And, no, I have no intention of clicking on it to find out) (*) Apart from the fact that the salvation racket is all one big marketing/adverrtising con. -- b w r w g y b r y b
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 06:09 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <fffaf160-e06e-414a-84e6-bbd6ea98a6e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #104189 |
Kenny McCormack wrote: > Is there adverrtising on your site? No advertising. It is a very simple hand-coded html website. I do have a PayPal donate button. Two people have dobated to me since 2014. I refunded both their donations. I am hoping for that anonymous $5M donation. :-) Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 07:43 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <7a865d1c-def5-48ca-aed1-a45127dc4ad9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #104191 |
I was watching part of A Man Called Peter this morning, about Peter
Marshall, a famous pastor during the 1940s. He's giving his first
sermon at his new post in a famous church in Washington D.C.
There, he preaches on his bitter distaste of how so many people
believe that "religion" is peddled, sold, advertised to trap and
bind people as the many systems at work in this world do.
It's not like that. Christ is free to receive. Coming to complete
forgiveness is ours for the asking. We ask Him directly. No middle
man. No separation between us and God. We come to Him alone,
able to do so by what He did for us at the cross. He alone makes
salvation possible.
The scene begins at 48:40 in the movie:
A Man Called Peter
Available on Netflix. Or here for rental:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Ni14al7uU
The concept of trying to make the Kingdom of God into something
like the perishing, fragile, and fleeting kingdoms of this world is not
a new concept. It is the same ploy wielded by an impotent enemy
whose only ability to possess power is to deceive people into
folliwing him rather than the truth. But all who seek the truth overcome
him, because Jesus already defeated that enemy at the cross. And
Jesus is truth (literally).
We now stand in victory, all who are His. The rest remain defeated,
deceived by Satan to even their own deaths in Hell, because they
would not listen to the truth, and embrace it.
The movie is a great and wonderful story. Another great part
is when the young woman gives her speech about women in
the 20th century (about 20 minutes in, the scene on the back
of a flatbed pickup).
Do watch the scene, and movie.
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 16:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <o8cfl8$1at$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #104196 |
In article <7a865d1c-def5-48ca-aed1-a45127dc4ad9@googlegroups.com>, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: >I was watching part of A Man Called Peter this morning, about Peter >Marshall, a famous pastor during the 1940s. Oh snap!!! I was so hoping it would be about the famous host of the (original) Hollywood Squares. That would have been interesting. -- "I have a simple philosophy. Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. And scratch where it itches." Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 16:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <o8cfnm$1at$2@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #104191 |
In article <fffaf160-e06e-414a-84e6-bbd6ea98a6e2@googlegroups.com>, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: >Kenny McCormack wrote: >> Is there adverrtising on your site? > >No advertising. It is a very simple hand-coded html website. I >do have a PayPal donate button. Two people have dobated to me ----------------------------------------------------^ >since 2014. I refunded both their donations. I am hoping for that >anonymous $5M donation. :-) Why return the donations? Or are you saying that you are only interested in large donations? -- Mike Huckabee has yet to consciously uncouple from Josh Duggar.
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 09:20 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: no interest in your magic |
| Message-ID | <afe21b51-7789-4849-b0cd-f20ccf2d40ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #104199 |
Kenny <strike>G.</strike>McCormack wrote: > Why return the donations? Felt guilty receiving it at the time. It was the two people who donated urging me to put up a donate button. I didn't have one previously. It was less than $100 I received total, refunded promptly. They both also asked why. > Or are you saying that you are only interested in large donations? My projects require 5+ other developers. I would like to be able to hire them for five years to complete my vision. I figure it would require about $5 million for labor, tools and machines, diagnostic hardware, and fab costs for early Arxoda CPU prototypes. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 12:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <33949db2-d48a-4d88-abc7-2115cff644c5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #103934 |
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-8, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 9:14:21 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > > On 15/02/2017 1:30 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 12:01:40 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > > >> I thought all religions on this planet and in this world originated from > > >> Middle-East. :) > > > Investigate it. Pursue the real and true answer until it yields. Do not > > > let assumption or preconception enter in. Seek out the full and whole > > > truth, because then you will know to the best of your ability. > > > > There is nothing but death in Middle-East... > > Of course. It is a predominately Muslim region. The Muslim faith > is a false faith taught by Satan, and it teaches the exact opposite > of Christianity (even teaching that Jesus was only a prophet, and > not the Son of God virgin born): > > http://tinyurl.com/zzr8a5y > > Islam is wholly evil. The only reason there aren't more Muslim > killings is for the same reason there aren't more holy Christians: > people are apostate. They do not follow the true tenants of their > faith. > > If people truly followed the requirements of their Muslim faith, > Sharia Law would be enforced, and people who refused to convert > to Islam would be killed. You don't understand Islam. Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus as your theology is.
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 12:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bc43f8ee-f48c-4119-86f7-14cc0a077a13@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109130 |
David Kleinecke wrote: > Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother > of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus > as your theology is. Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil himself. It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/index.aspx Flip through the various pages there. Islam is wholly anti-Christ wholly evil. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 14:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52F9AA8.A351C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #109132 |
On 5/3/17, 12:41 PM, in article bc43f8ee-f48c-4119-86f7-14cc0a077a13@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: > David Kleinecke wrote: >> Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother >> of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus >> as your theology is. > > Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil > himself. It is no better or worse than Christianity. But once again we see your arrogance and pride in your own worldview. > It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in > religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. Wow! So now you want to KILL people simply for having a different worldview than you. THAT is evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. You have an evil worldview. > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx > > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/index.aspx You expect people to click those links as you said you would NOT click links with quotes of the bible. This is hypocritical of you. > Flip through the various pages there. Islam is wholly anti-Christ wholly > evil. You cannot speak for others but you have spoken for yourself: YOUR version of Christianity is a dark and evil one, one that demands killing. YOUR religion is a religion that pushes back from good and demands evil. Sorry to hear it. And to be clear, that most certainly does NOT apply to all Christians. > Thank you, > Rick C. Hodgin -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | joel.rees@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 17:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d395053f-3bef-47fb-9989-b08a05213315@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109137 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 6:33:26 AM UTC+9, Snit wrote: > On 5/3/17, 12:41 PM, "Rick C. Hodgin" > <> wrote: > > > David Kleinecke wrote: > >> Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother > >> of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus > >> as your theology is. > > > > Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil > > himself. > > It is no better or worse than Christianity. But once again we see your > arrogance and pride in your own worldview. > > > It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in > > religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. > > Wow! So now you want to KILL people simply for having a different worldview > than you. THAT is evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. > [...] ??? Was that a deliberate misinterpretation, to demonstrate how preaching in the wrong ways or in the wrong places can be counter-effective? (Not sure whether that would be a good approach or not.) -- Joel Rees Ranting randomly: http://reiisi.blogspot.com
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 22:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D5300D37.A35A0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #109149 |
On 5/3/17, 5:27 PM, in article d395053f-3bef-47fb-9989-b08a05213315@googlegroups.com, "joel.rees@gmail.com" <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 6:33:26 AM UTC+9, Snit wrote: >> On 5/3/17, 12:41 PM, "Rick C. Hodgin" >> <> wrote: >> >>> David Kleinecke wrote: >>>> Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother >>>> of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus >>>> as your theology is. >>> >>> Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil >>> himself. >> >> It is no better or worse than Christianity. But once again we see your >> arrogance and pride in your own worldview. >> >>> It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in >>> religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. >> >> Wow! So now you want to KILL people simply for having a different worldview >> than you. THAT is evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. >> [...] > > ??? > > Was that a deliberate misinterpretation, to demonstrate how preaching in the > wrong ways or in the wrong places can be counter-effective? > > (Not sure whether that would be a good approach or not.) > > -- > Joel Rees > > Ranting randomly: > http://reiisi.blogspot.com Wait... on re-reading I see he was not pushing the view of "People who don't convert are to be killed" but lying and saying all Muslims have that view. On that I stand corrected and owe him an apology. Thanks for pointing out my error. And, Rick, my apology is sincere. I disagree with you strongly but you did NOT suggest others should be killed for not converting. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 05:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2e180134-2231-4ecf-a091-10cea13b029b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109169 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 1:42:11 AM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> Wait... on re-reading I see he was not pushing the view of "People
> who don't convert are to be killed" but lying and saying all Muslims
> have that view.
It's not a lie, "Snit." It is Islam:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
"...there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance
out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued
until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are
killed."
Killing everyone except Muslims, for disbelief in Islam is "worse
than killing," and Muslims are to fight people until there are
nothing but Muslims left:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and
turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah
[disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist,
then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until
there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along
with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let
there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists,
and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran)
Fighting is prescribed for Islam believers, and even against their
true God-given natural affections and love for their fellow man:
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike
it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for
you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah
knoweth, and ye know not."
Killing them or enslaving them into Mafia-like "protection money":
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then
slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive
and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then
if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave
their way free to them."
And just read through the many other verses.
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Islam is the way of "believe or die" and is focused upon the flesh.
Christianity teaches that we are already spiritually dead in sin,
yet alive in our flesh. We are already on our way to Hell because
of Adam's sin, and our own sin, and that Jesus came to take our sin
away because He loves us and wants to redeem us, and that He will
take away the sin of everyone who comes to Him merely for the asking.
Jesus wants everyone to come to repentance. But there still remains
eternal damnation for those who will not accept His offer, because
they reject Him. And because Jesus is literal Truth, when a person
rejects Jesus they reject Truth, so that falseness, that lie, is
forever cast into Hell where it can have no influence upon God's
universe.
God is judging sin ... all sin. He is willing to forgive everyone
for what they've done. All anyone has to do is believe, and ask.
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | joel.rees@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 19:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <34640a99-1100-4394-b502-1550652ba781@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109188 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:23:51 PM UTC+9, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 1:42:11 AM UTC-4, Snit wrote: > > Wait... on re-reading I see he was not pushing the view of "People > > who don't convert are to be killed" but lying and saying all Muslims > > have that view. Now you're misreading snit, Rick. Still, ... > It's not a lie, "Snit." It is Islam: > > http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx > > "...there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance > out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued > until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are > killed." There are lots of people misrepresenting lots of religions all over the Internet, as if they had nothing better to do. We should not believe everything we read on a web site. (Even when we are, for instance, reading our own blogs, I'd say. 8-*) Personally, I find the Bible to be much more accessible scripture than the Quran. Part of that is that I grew up with the Bible (and another book or three of scripture, but that's even more off-topic here). Because I learned to read the scriptures for what they are, incomplete records kept and passed down by inspired, but fallible men and women, I can seek the truth to be found in them instead of demanding that any one scripture or set of scriptures completely and perfectly circumscribe all truth. We who write programs understand the difficulty of attaching semantics to symbols. We should understand, I think, that words are inherently malleable. They can carry meaning, when used appropriately, but they do not contain meaning. As an example, if you use a constant called "BLACK" in the wrong place in a program, it might actually cause a computer screen to go white. Because we deal with words and semantics, we should understand the necessity of using words appropriately. We should also understand the necessity of interpreting words appropriately. -- Joel Rees Ranting randomly: https://reiisi.blogspot.com
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-04 19:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D531386E.A38A4%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #109290 |
On 5/4/17, 7:51 PM, in article 34640a99-1100-4394-b502-1550652ba781@googlegroups.com, "joel.rees@gmail.com" <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote: ... >> It's not a lie, "Snit." It is Islam: >> >> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx >> >> "...there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance >> out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued >> until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are >> killed." > > There are lots of people misrepresenting lots of religions all over > the Internet, as if they had nothing better to do. We should not > believe everything we read on a web site. (Even when we are, for > instance, reading our own blogs, I'd say. 8-*) > > Personally, I find the Bible to be much more accessible scripture > than the Quran. Part of that is that I grew up with the Bible (and > another book or three of scripture, but that's even more off-topic > here). > > Because I learned to read the scriptures for what they are, > incomplete records kept and passed down by inspired, but fallible > men and women, I can seek the truth to be found in them instead > of demanding that any one scripture or set of scriptures > completely and perfectly circumscribe all truth. I can respect that. > We who write programs understand the difficulty of attaching > semantics to symbols. We should understand, I think, that words > are inherently malleable. They can carry meaning, when used > appropriately, but they do not contain meaning. > > As an example, if you use a constant called "BLACK" in the > wrong place in a program, it might actually cause a computer > screen to go white. > > Because we deal with words and semantics, we should understand > the necessity of using words appropriately. > > We should also understand the necessity of interpreting words > appropriately. > > -- > Joel Rees > > Ranting randomly: > https://reiisi.blogspot.com -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | joel.rees@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 17:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <82ab7827-f05c-4f50-b4e4-743cb8b289a2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109132 |
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 4:41:54 AM UTC+9, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > David Kleinecke wrote: > > Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother > > of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus > > as your theology is. > > Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil himself. > It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in > religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. > > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx > > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/index.aspx > > Flip through the various pages there. Islam is wholly anti-Christ > wholly evil. Just as there are people who falsely profess the Christ, there are people who falsely profess Islam. All religions have their power-mongers and liars. It's going to be difficult to reach out to the elect who are sincere in their adherence to their traditions, if you deliberately let the liars and apostates among them become a wall between you and them. -- Joel Rees Delusions of being a novelist: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/p/novels-i-am-writing.html
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 18:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f11bbf6d-0342-4d8c-9b83-f108a90be350@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109151 |
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:38:35 PM UTC-4, joel...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 4:41:54 AM UTC+9, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > David Kleinecke wrote: > > > Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother > > > of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus > > > as your theology is. > > > > Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil himself. > > It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in > > religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. > > > > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx > > > > https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/index.aspx > > > > Flip through the various pages there. Islam is wholly anti-Christ > > wholly evil. > > Just as there are people who falsely profess the Christ, > there are people who falsely profess Islam. There will always be false teachers. It's the nature of sin living within us, and it is Satan's way to take advantage of that weak sin nature, deceiving people to move forward falsely. > All religions have their power-mongers and liars. > It's going to be difficult to reach out to the elect > who are sincere in their adherence to their traditions, > if you deliberately let the liars and apostates > among them become a wall between you and them. I'm sorry, Joel, but Islam is evil. There is no other way to present that religion. The only reason there aren't more terrorist Muslims is for the same reason there aren't more holy Christians: people are apostate. Muhammad married a six year old, consummated their marriage when she was nine. Allah calls himself the chief of liars, and advocates people lying to advance the Muslim agenda. If people refuse to convert to Islam, they have a choice: be killed, or remain alive and pay an ongoing fee for your life (like Mafia "protection money" so nothing bad happens to you ... so long as you pay). There is nothing redeeming about Islam. And because of the spiritual nature of our battle in this world (mankind's battle against evil spirit entities), those who are not born again and serving Jesus Christ are like the people in the move The Matrix, the evil spirits can rise up and act in any one of them at any time because they are still slaves to sin, and dead in sin. There is nothing comparable between Islam and Christianity. Jesus came to save all people, and did so out of love, teaching us that we are lost in sin, and that we cannot save ourselves. He came to do what we could not do, rescuing us from our condition, and setting us free to be with Him in eternity, redeemed despite our guilt. I'm sorry if you can't handle the truth, Joel, but Islam is as evil as it gets. It is a murderous band of terrorist that simply do not rise up and act as a people because they are apostate and refuse, even by their natural conscience and nature, to do those things their own "holy" book teaches them to do. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 22:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D5300C82.A359D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #109157 |
On 5/3/17, 6:23 PM, in article f11bbf6d-0342-4d8c-9b83-f108a90be350@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:38:35 PM UTC-4, joel...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 4:41:54 AM UTC+9, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >>> David Kleinecke wrote: >>>> Islam is a reformed version of the Christianity of James the brother >>>> of Jesus. It's just as closely related to the teachings of Jesus >>>> as your theology is. >>> >>> Islam is a false religion perpetuating a false god and is of the devil >>> himself. >>> It is flesh-focused, denies the deity of Christ, and has all ends in >>> religion, not in spirit. People who don't convert are to be killed. >>> >>> https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx >>> >>> https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/index.aspx >>> >>> Flip through the various pages there. Islam is wholly anti-Christ >>> wholly evil. >> >> Just as there are people who falsely profess the Christ, >> there are people who falsely profess Islam. > > There will always be false teachers. It's the nature of sin living > within us, and it is Satan's way to take advantage of that weak sin > nature, deceiving people to move forward falsely. Here is an idea: you keep pushing the arrogant idea that you have the one truth we should listen to. Cool! Now show support. Evidence. Reason. Do you have ANY? I think we all know the answer: no. You have none. Not a shred. And you crossed a line when you said that others should be killed simply for having a different worldview. You crossed the line to supporting the tactics of religious fanatics such as the ones ISIS pushes. >> All religions have their power-mongers and liars. >> It's going to be difficult to reach out to the elect >> who are sincere in their adherence to their traditions, >> if you deliberately let the liars and apostates >> among them become a wall between you and them. > > I'm sorry, Joel, but Islam is evil. Your version of Christianity is evil. > There is no other way to present that religion. The only reason there aren't > more terrorist Muslims is for the same reason there aren't more holy > Christians: people are apostate. You have said YOU support terrorism. Muslims, as a whole, have not. Below you whine about Islam but ignore the evils in the Bible and say you will avoid material that speaks of such. You are a hypocrite. > Muhammad married a six year old, consummated their marriage when she was nine. > Allah calls himself the chief of liars, and advocates people lying to advance > the Muslim agenda. If people refuse to convert to Islam, they have a choice: > be killed, or remain alive and pay an ongoing fee for your life (like Mafia > "protection money" so nothing bad happens to you ... so long as you pay). > > There is nothing redeeming about Islam. And because of the spiritual nature > of our battle in this world (mankind's battle against evil spirit entities), > those who are not born again and serving Jesus Christ are like the people in > the move The Matrix, the evil spirits can rise up and act in any one of them > at any time because they are still slaves to sin, and dead in sin. > > There is nothing comparable between Islam and Christianity. Jesus came to > save all people, and did so out of love, teaching us that we are lost in sin, > and that we cannot save ourselves. He came to do what we could not do, > rescuing us from our condition, and setting us free to be with Him in > eternity, redeemed despite our guilt. > > I'm sorry if you can't handle the truth, Joel, but Islam is as evil as it > gets. It is a murderous band of terrorist that simply do not rise up and act > as a people because they are apostate and refuse, even by their natural > conscience and nature, to do those things their own "holy" book teaches them > to do. > > Thank you, > Rick C. Hodgin -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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