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[off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet?

Started byThiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>
First post2019-04-16 04:45 -0700
Last post2019-04-17 11:13 +0800
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  [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 04:45 -0700
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-04-16 11:49 +0000
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-16 12:04 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-04-17 11:16 +0000
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2019-04-16 07:51 -0400
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 05:01 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 05:16 -0700
          Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-04-16 08:49 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-04-16 08:13 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 08:15 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-04-16 08:50 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2019-04-17 06:54 -0400
          Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-17 04:32 -0700
            Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-04-17 20:44 +0000
            Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2019-04-19 09:07 -0400
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-16 13:58 +0000
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 07:11 -0700
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 07:14 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-04-16 14:27 +0000
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-16 19:25 +0000
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2019-04-16 16:31 -0400
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 13:49 -0700
          Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-04-16 15:00 -0700
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 07:42 -0700
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2019-04-17 00:41 +0800
      Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 09:55 -0700
        Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2019-04-17 11:16 +0800
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2019-04-16 16:30 -0400
    Re: [off-topic] What is the protocol of usenet? Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2019-04-17 11:13 +0800

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#143141

FromReal Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com>
Date2019-04-16 16:31 -0400
Message-ID<q95dsn$rku$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#143110
On 16/04/2019 14:58, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> What does "more online" mean to you?

It means that TAdams hasn't got a clue what he's talking 
about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
>

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#143142

FromThiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 13:49 -0700
Message-ID<5a245324-a341-404e-87e3-cf7ead050787@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#143141
On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 5:28:17 PM UTC-3, Real Troll wrote:
> On 16/04/2019 14:58, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> > What does "more online" mean to you?
> 
> It means that TAdams hasn't got a clue what he's talking 
> about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
You didn't understand my suggestion.
Read again the initial post.

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#143151

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2019-04-16 15:00 -0700
Message-ID<ln36mh1ugs.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#143142
Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 5:28:17 PM UTC-3, Real Troll wrote:
[...]
> You didn't understand my suggestion.

You didn't understand "Real Troll"'s user name.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#143117

FromJohn Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<d4a8eebd-9380-434b-b54c-f00bf55812ae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#143104
On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:46:19 AM UTC-5, Thiago Adams wrote:
> What is the protocol of USENET?
> SMTP and POP?
> 

I think this is the latest RFC for Usenet (NNTP):

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977

Go nuts.

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#143127

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-17 00:41 +0800
Message-ID<q950kk$775$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#143104
On 4/16/2019 7:45 PM, Thiago Adams wrote:
> 
> The main feature missing in google groups is filter
> and it's best feature is search and because it is
> online.
> 
> I was wondering in create a server on amazon or azure
> to work as usenet client with filter.
> 
> The other feature I was thinking about is to allow
> personal moderation. Anyone can create a filter and this
> filter becomes public. If someone wants, it can use the
> same filter on the person(s) he/she trusts.


Those can be done at client side, if not INSIDE your brain! Usenet has 
moderators, though not all newsgroups are being moderated.

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#143128

FromThiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 09:55 -0700
Message-ID<e1085728-ff38-428a-b228-6200672b1779@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#143127
On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:42:07 PM UTC-3, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 4/16/2019 7:45 PM, Thiago Adams wrote:
> > 
> > The main feature missing in google groups is filter
> > and it's best feature is search and because it is
> > online.
> > 
> > I was wondering in create a server on amazon or azure
> > to work as usenet client with filter.
> > 
> > The other feature I was thinking about is to allow
> > personal moderation. Anyone can create a filter and this
> > filter becomes public. If someone wants, it can use the
> > same filter on the person(s) he/she trusts.
> 
> 
> Those can be done at client side, if not INSIDE your brain! Usenet has 
> moderators, though not all newsgroups are being moderated.

The filter I am suggesting is client side, but the client is running
on the cloud.
For instance, one http server that is a client for 
https://www.eternal-september.org/ just like Thunderbird but
you don't have to install it and it keeps the information
about what you read synchronized. The user interface could
be very simple.

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#143160

FromReinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>
Date2019-04-17 11:16 +0800
Message-ID<q965r4$jgo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#143128
AT Wednesday 17 April 2019 00:55, Thiago Adams wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:42:07 PM UTC-3, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 4/16/2019 7:45 PM, Thiago Adams wrote:
>> > 
>> > The main feature missing in google groups is filter
>> > and it's best feature is search and because it is
>> > online.
>> > 
>> > I was wondering in create a server on amazon or azure
>> > to work as usenet client with filter.
>> > 
>> > The other feature I was thinking about is to allow
>> > personal moderation. Anyone can create a filter and this
>> > filter becomes public. If someone wants, it can use the
>> > same filter on the person(s) he/she trusts.
>> 
>> 
>> Those can be done at client side, if not INSIDE your brain! Usenet has
>> moderators, though not all newsgroups are being moderated.
> 
> The filter I am suggesting is client side, but the client is running
> on the cloud.
> For instance, one http server that is a client for
> https://www.eternal-september.org/ just like Thunderbird but
> you don't have to install it and it keeps the information
> about what you read synchronized. The user interface could
> be very simple.

Web interfaces are an absolute nuisance. I it on all these forums. It is 
usually messy and slow.

-- 
Reinhardt

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#143140

FromReal Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com>
Date2019-04-16 16:30 -0400
Message-ID<q95dgu$q1d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#143104
On 16/04/2019 12:45, Thiago Adams wrote:
>
> I was wondering in create a server on amazon or azure
> to work as usenet client with filter.

Go and ask Amazon how to create a newsgroup on their servers.  You are 
paying for the service so use them for each of your dollar. 
Alternatively contact GMANE if they can create something for you or 
Paulo from Italy who is running a news server called aioe.  He can host 
a bespoke newsgroup for you if you pay him and you can control who can 
access your newsgroup.  I guess you'll get 5 users at most using your 
servers.

You are another moderation junkie like that idiot called "Richard".


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#143159

FromReinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>
Date2019-04-17 11:13 +0800
Message-ID<q965kp$jgo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#143104
AT Tuesday 16 April 2019 19:45, Thiago Adams wrote:

> What is the protocol of USENET?
> SMTP and POP?
> 
> 
> I am asking because I think we could have more on-line
> services like google groups to access the information
> and post on USENET.
> 
> Does anyone know more online options?
> 
> The main feature missing in google groups is filter
> and it's best feature is search and because it is
> online.
> 
> I was wondering in create a server on amazon or azure
> to work as usenet client with filter.
> 
> The other feature I was thinking about is to allow
> personal moderation. Anyone can create a filter and this
> filter becomes public. If someone wants, it can use the
> same filter on the person(s) he/she trusts.

Trying to re-invent the wheel?
The protocol is neither of these, it is NNTP. Google's crippled usenet 
interface is a nuisance to everybody.

-- 
Reinhardt

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