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  Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 05:01 -0800
    Whackjob (Was: Go to church) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-12 13:13 +0000
    Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:33 +0800
      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-12 19:51 -0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 20:51 -0800
          Re: Go to church Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-02-13 12:37 -0500
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 09:54 -0800
            Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-13 16:00 -0800
              Re: Go to church Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-16 19:27 -0700
                Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +0000
                Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:46 -0700
    Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-13 14:15 -0400
      Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:29 -0800
      Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:01 -0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 15:24 -0800
      Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 01:01 +0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:30 -0800
          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:52 -0800
            Re: Go to church asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-02-15 00:42 -0800
              Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:11 -0800
          Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 22:14 +0800
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:10 -0800
              Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:15 -0800
                Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:03 +0800
                  Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:11 -0800
                    Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 17:41 -0800
                      Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 18:24 -0800
                        Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
                          Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
                            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 19:25 -0800
                              Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 20:40 -0800
                                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 03:35 -0800
                                  Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 04:39 -0800
                                  Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 16:54 -0800
                                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:15 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:19 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 18:25 -0800
                                    Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-16 17:28 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:44 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 03:34 -0800
                                            Re: Go to church Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-18 15:20 -0800
                                          Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 06:31 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:54 +0000
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-23 16:12 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-24 10:20 +0000
                                      Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-01 13:54 -0700
                                        Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:05 -0700
                                          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:57 -0700
                                            Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:45 -0700
              Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:02 +0800
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:08 -0800
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 09:26 -0800
                  Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 22:04 +0800
                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 06:20 -0800
                      Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 22:44 +0800
                        Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 07:15 -0800
                          Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 00:09 +0800
                            Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:26 -0800
                              Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 01:01 +0800
                                Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 09:10 -0800
                                  Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:27 +0800
                                    Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 04:33 -0800
                                      Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 13:39 +0000
                                        Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 06:09 -0800
                                          Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 07:43 -0800
                                            Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:03 +0000
                                          Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:05 +0000
                                            Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:20 -0800
              Re: Go to church David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:31 -0700
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:41 -0700
                  Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:33 -0700
                    Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:27 -0700
                      Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:41 -0700
                        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 05:23 -0700
                          Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 19:51 -0700
                            Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:38 -0700
                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:23 -0700
                      Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:38 -0700
                    Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:39 -0700
                Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:34 -0700
    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 07:33 -0800
      Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-16 16:59 -0400
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 21:30 -0800
          Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-19 01:15 -0400
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:24 -0800
              Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +0100
                Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:53 -0700
                  Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 08:59 +0200
                    Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:32 -0700
                      Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 10:39 +0200
                        C#/Mono independence (Re: Go to church) joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 16:29 -0700

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#104060

Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> --
> To my knowledge, Jacob Navia is not a Christian.
>
> - Rick C Hodgin -

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.c/zj7mYOl75M0/-tPTac0zAwAJ

-----[ Begin ]-----
[From 10/19/2016]
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
> To my knowledge, Jacob Navia is not a Christian.
>
> - Rick C Hodgin

Kenny, I'll ask you to stop using quotes of mine as taglines.

They are out of context and do not convey an accurate sentiment in isolation. It is, therefore, a type of personal slander, and I ask you to cease all use of them. 
-----[ End ]-----

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#104159

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 11:34:53 AM UTC, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
> >
> > --
> > To my knowledge, Jacob Navia is not a Christian.
> >
> > - Rick C Hodgin -
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.c/zj7mYOl75M0/-tPTac0zAwAJ
> 
> -----[ Begin ]-----
> [From 10/19/2016]
> > Kenny McCormack wrote:
> > To my knowledge, Jacob Navia is not a Christian.
> >
> > - Rick C Hodgin
> 
> Kenny, I'll ask you to stop using quotes of mine as taglines.
> 
> They are out of context and do not convey an accurate sentiment
> in isolation. It is, therefore, a type of personal slander, and
>  I ask you to cease all use of them. 
> -----[ End ]-----
> 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin
>
To be fair, this sort of thing can get very nasty, suddenly and quickly,
and Rick wouldn't want that.
We owe it to Jacob to let it quietly slip down the memory holes.

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#104061

W dniu piątek, 17 lutego 2017 10:59:21 UTC+1 użytkownik Kenny McCormack napisał:
> In article <o85kf1$tjj$1@dont-email.me>,
> Chris M. Thomasson <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >On 2/16/2017 5:28 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >> [SNIP]
> >>
> >> Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
> >> I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
> >> Last warning.
> >>
> >
> >Okay.
> 
> Good.  Don't let Kiki bully you.
> 
> Being killfiled by him is actually a badge of honor; it is certainly no loss.
> 
well said

> -- 
> To my knowledge, Jacob Navia is not a Christian.
> 
>     - Rick C Hodgin -

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#104057

In article <ln37fdr4fn.fsf@kst-u.example.com>,
Keith Thompson  <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>[SNIP]
>
>Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
>I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
>Last warning.

Wow.  I can see Chris shaking in his boots as we speak.

-- 
The last time a Republican cared about you, you were a fetus.

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#104556

On 2/16/2017 5:28 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> [SNIP]
>
> Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
> I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
> Last warning.
>

It seems as if another type of thing is spamming this group now! WTF.

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#104574

On 24/02/17 00:12, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 2/16/2017 5:28 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> [SNIP]
>>
>> Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
>> I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
>> Last warning.
>>
>
> It seems as if another type of thing is spamming this group now! WTF.

<sigh> Yes. And the solution is to killfile them. Complaining about them 
is pointless. But feeding them is also pointless. Be told.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#108960

Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> [SNIP]
>
> Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
> I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
> Last warning.

As promised, *plonk*.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#108963

On 5/1/17, 1:54 PM, in article lnmvawgux5.fsf@kst-u.example.com, "Keith
Thompson" <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:

> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> [SNIP]
>> 
>> Chris, if you continue feeding this troll I will killfile you.
>> I'd rather not, since you've had useful things to say about C.
>> Last warning.
> 
> As promised, *plonk*.

The irony is the only reason I came to this group Rick talked to me
ELSEWHERE complaining I respond to those who troll too much.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108979

Snit wrote:
> The irony is the only reason I came to this group Rick talked to me
> ELSEWHERE complaining I respond to those who troll too much.

I am not trolling.  I am teaching people what truth is.  I do so because
He first taught me, and now I know.  I go out to teach others so they
too can know, come out from the deception, repent, ask forgiveness, and
be saved.

It is eternal life through Jesus Christ.  Complete forgiveness for sin.
It's worth your investigation.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108989

On 5/1/17, 3:57 PM, in article
e4017cf2-8bfd-4ba8-b6af-b856103bfc32@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
>> The irony is the only reason I came to this group Rick talked to me
>> ELSEWHERE complaining I respond to those who troll too much.
> 
> I am not trolling.

Sure you are: you are pushing an arrogant worldview where you should be seen
as being right even though you offer no evidence and act in immoral ways.
That is trolling.

> I am teaching people what truth is.

A "truth" you show no evidence of and work to convince people to believe
through threats and playing victim.

> I do so because He first taught me, and now I know.  I go out to teach others
> so they too can know, come out from the deception, repent, ask forgiveness,
> and be saved.

So you can be taught by the Invisible Green Dragon as well as by him. But
your mind is closed.

> It is eternal life through Jesus Christ.  Complete forgiveness for sin.
> It's worth your investigation.

You assume we are not familiar with the basics of Christianity, but you are
the one who has shown more ignorance of the bible than others.

> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#103939

There is only death in Middle-East. So all these religions are about 
death. End of story. :)

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  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
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#103941

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:02:48 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> There is only death in Middle-East. So all these religions are about 
> death. End of story. :)

Death exists because of sin.  Jesus takes our sin away.  This restore
us to eternal life.

We were created in God's image.  In His likeness.  We are eternal
beings, but because of sin we are under God's wrath and judgment.
We are still alive here on the Earth, but our spirit is dead.  This
leaves us hampered and hindered as God's creation, which is why
Satan is able to run this world ragged into all manner of death,
disease, hate, war, etc.

When Jesus takes our sin away, we are then alive again spiritually,
able to know the things we couldn't know previously which are
spiritually discerned.

This fundamentally changes us.  We literally are born again into
the new existence, and we can never go back.

All people die, but not all people need fear death.  All people die,
but those who were redeemed by Jesus Christ are restored to eternal
life, and go to be with God in His Kingdom of paradise forever (the
place called Heaven).

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103947

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:02:48 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> There is only death in Middle-East. So all these religions are about 
> death. End of story. :)

I thought of you when I saw this:

    https://www.facebook.com/ArthurPinkQuotes/photos/a.392074400909176.1073741826.392064994243450/1196416407141634/

When you know the truth, it makes you free.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#104003

On 16/02/2017 1:26 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> I thought of you when I saw this:
> https://www.facebook.com/ArthurPinkQuotes/photos/a.392074400909176.1073741826.392064994243450/1196416407141634/
> When you know the truth, it makes you free.

Middle-East remains a dangerous place. And every mortal must face 
growing old and die. The problem is not death, but how you die. :)

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
   ^ ^   (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.3
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#104005

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:04:59 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 16/02/2017 1:26 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > I thought of you when I saw this:
> > https://www.facebook.com/ArthurPinkQuotes/photos/a.392074400909176.1073741826.392064994243450/1196416407141634/
> > When you know the truth, it makes you free.
> 
> Middle-East remains a dangerous place. And every mortal must face 
> growing old and die. The problem is not death, but how you die. :)

People have a soul, a body, a spirit.  Because of sin, our spirit is
dead, because the spirit is eternal life.  We no longer have eternal
life because of sin.  But, our soul remains, and our body is alive
here in this temporal world.

Growing old exists because of sin.  Disease, death, these all exist
because of sin.  There was no death before sin.

Jesus came to take our sin away, and restore us to eternal life.
We need not fear death any longer if we have been forgiven of our
sin.  We will leave this world and be given a new body, one like
the angels that is young, diverse, strong, healthy, and able.

For those who don't know Jesus, death is a most fearful time.  It
is that time when you will face God with your sin, be found guilty,
and cast into the lake of fire from which you will never return.

It's why this message is so important.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

PS - You post a lot of things that you think, such as "The problem
     is not death, but how you die. :)" ... and these are of a mis-
     guided and wrong foundation, and therefore they cause harm to
     you and others who would read your words and "agree" with your
     teaching in this area (it is a teaching, because you are stating
     your beliefs for others to read and assimilate).

PS - You owe it to yourself to research the Bible and these things I
     am teaching you.  They lead you to the one who is life.  They
     lead you to life, and the restoration of life in your existence.
     There are no more important things than this for each person,
     because of our base nature (soul, body, spirit), and that which
     comes after we leave this world.  Either eternal life, or eternal
     death.  It is binary.  Black and white.  And it has to do entirely
     with what you did with Jesus, and His free offer of salvation.

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#104062 — Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"?

On 16/02/2017 10:20 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> Growing old exists because of sin.  Disease, death, these all exist
> because of sin.  There was no death before sin.

Excuse me, who taught you this sentence? While being a sinful person 
**MIGHT*** make you grow old faster like Darth Sidious in Star Wars, 
growing old is not exactly caused by sins and evil deeds.

I think we got a situation here.

> Jesus came to take our sin away, and restore us to eternal life.
> We need not fear death any longer if we have been forgiven of our
> sin.  We will leave this world and be given a new body, one like
> the angels that is young, diverse, strong, healthy, and able.

Because you wanna sold and advertised about Jesus, so you made up a 
story called "Growing old is a result of sin"?

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#104063 — Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"?

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 16/02/2017 10:20 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > Growing old exists because of sin.  Disease, death, these all exist
> > because of sin.  There was no death before sin.
> 
> Excuse me, who taught you this sentence? While being a sinful person 
> **MIGHT*** make you grow old faster ... growing old is not exactly
> caused by sins and evil deeds.

God provided for a way to maintain our youthful bodies in perfect
health before sin.  It was the tree of life in the Garden of Eden.
When man sinned, God drove man out of the Garden of Eden to work
the ground He had cursed for their sake (to keep their idle hands
busy, so as to not grow complacency in the stead God had created
for them in the golden age of the Earth).

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/3.htm

    22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
       to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and
       take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
    23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden,
       to till the ground from whence he was taken.
    24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden
       of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way,
       to keep the way of the tree of life.

In this way, the man would grow old.  He was not receive from the
tree of life the maintenance that his physical body required, and
received, from God, while he remained in his commandments (before
sin).

> > Jesus came to take our sin away, and restore us to eternal life.
> > We need not fear death any longer if we have been forgiven of our
> > sin.  We will leave this world and be given a new body, one like
> > the angels that is young, diverse, strong, healthy, and able.
> 
> Because you wanna sold and advertised about Jesus, so you made up a 
> story called "Growing old is a result of sin"?

I am selling anything.  I am teaching you the truth.  If you are
willing to receive that information, it is before you, ready for
your inspection and consumption.  So long as you hold on to pre-
conceived ideas taught by the enemy of this world, asserting within
yourself that they are correct and that Biblical teachings are
wrong, you will forever fence yourself off from the truth.

Seek to know the truth.  Ask questions to have someone affirm and
confirm what they've claimed.  Don't accuse the way you did above,
even going so far as to say that I "made up a story" until you have
first received all of the information about it.  To do so is to
follow in the path the enemy of God has laid out for you, the one
of belief in pre-conceived ideas and notions which are wrong, the
one which asserts them ahead of truth because of his influence and
teaching, rather than the true teaching of God, through His Holy
Spirit, through His Son, and through all of the assets He has given
us to come to know the truth.

There is an enemy at work against you (against all of us).  The way
to defeat that enemy is to seek the truth with a full effort, because
truth really does own everything.  Falseness owns nothing except the
map to your soul's own death.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#104065 — Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"?

Thread started in in comp.lang.c:

On 17/02/2017 11:15 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
 > God provided for a way to maintain our youthful
 > bodies in perfect health before sin. It was the
 > tree of life in the Garden of Eden. When man
 > sinned, God drove man out of the Garden of Eden
 > to work the ground He had cursed for their sake
 > (to keep their idle hands busy, so as to not
 > grow complacency in the stead God had created
 > for them in the golden age of the Earth).

Did you know that you were no longer talking about science nor religion 
nor medicine, but MAGIC??

> There is an enemy at work against you (against all of us).  The way
> to defeat that enemy is to seek the truth with a full effort, because
> truth really does own everything.  Falseness owns nothing except the
> map to your soul's own death.

What now? Provoking people to become your terrorists?

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#104067 — Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"?

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 11:09:57 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> Thread started in in comp.lang.c:
> 
> On 17/02/2017 11:15 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
>  > God provided for a way to maintain our youthful
>  > bodies in perfect health before sin. It was the
>  > tree of life in the Garden of Eden. When man
>  > sinned, God drove man out of the Garden of Eden
>  > to work the ground He had cursed for their sake
>  > (to keep their idle hands busy, so as to not
>  > grow complacency in the stead God had created
>  > for them in the golden age of the Earth).
> 
> Did you know that you were no longer talking about science nor religion 
> nor medicine, but MAGIC??

It is science.  It's just science our "modern science" doesn't yet know,
because it involves God and therefore is summarily rejected by the enemy
who is the leader of all falseness in this world.  But, as scientific
research into the study of DNA has completely removed Darwinian evolution
as any kind of possibly viable theory, showing that intelligent design
is, by far, the more likely candidate, in time all of the things God has
taught us will be revealed even through our own science to be true,
because the truth is fundamental, it speaks with one voice, and it does
own everything.  Falseness can only endure until such time as the truth
speaks.  Once the truth speaks, falseness always crumbles completely.

It's why Satan tries to keep people from coming to study the Bible.  He
knows when they do truth will speak, and his lying house of wholly evil
teachings will be revealed for what they are:  ongoing attacks by an
enemy of everything right, true, proper, and holy, for the purposes of
harming God, and destroying men's souls in Hell.

As for science, when I examine our DNA structure (the double-helix), it
looks very clear to me that there is room for another strand, perhaps a
governing entity which maintained or fixed up that which would otherwise
be lost through age without it, a part of God's design from the beginning
no doubt.

    http://www.yourgenome.org/sites/default/files/illustrations/diagram/dna_double_helix_yourgenome.png

We also see evidence that there was some degree of a chemical or some type
of environmental influence in the history of man as recorded in the Bible.
Before the flood people lived into their 800s and 900s.  The oldest man was
Methuselah who was 969.  But after the flood, people's ages began decreasing
rapidly until by the time of Abraham he only lived 175 years, and his wife
at the age of 90 was considered beyond child bearing years.

Something changed after the flood.  A chemical previously present in the
food was lost, the removal of the water ice shield above the atmosphere,
something lost from the mist that used to flow up and water the whole
surface of the Earth ... something changed and we now live on this side
of that event, so we have no frame of reference for what it was like
before.  But, the enemy knows.

Do you know there are reports from all over the Earth of giant skeletons
being found?  Even men over 10 feet high regularly, with reports of some
16 feet, 20 feet, even up to 30 feet hight?  This information has been
suppressed greatly, but if you research it there are documented recordings
in newspaper articles, textbooks, magazines, and so on.  There are also
verbal legends of such large people.  We see evidence of their size in
Egyptian drawings showing leaders being physically much larger in size,
though today that is thought only to represent a status, and not a real
size, but with other evidence which exists of larger fossils in ancient
history, larger plants, huge dinosaurs, etc., it seems at least possible.

There is so much that would lend observable credence to the Bible and
God's account of man.  It's being deliberately suppressed so the lie of
the enemy can be the ongoing storyline being told.  But even that lie
breaks down when exposed to our modern endeavors for finding things out,
such as the study of DNA exposing Darwinism to be false.

Jesus Christ is truth.  If you want the truth, begin with Him.  He will
lead you into all truth, as much as you can receive, in whatever station
in life you are (truth in science, truth in biology, truth in astronomy,
etc.).  It's all from Him, for He is the fountain and wellspring of truth.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#104071 — Re: no interest in your magic

No interesting in your magic stuff... Walking away.... again! :)

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