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  Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:44 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:55 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 04:53 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:18 -0700
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:53 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:38 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:15 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:35 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:51 -0700
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:01 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:39 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:49 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:57 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 14:33 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:59 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:15 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:42 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 21:53 +0800
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:21 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:24 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:34 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:55 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:39 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:17 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:28 -0700
            [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 22:48 +0800
              Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 08:43 -0700
                Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 00:08 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 09:19 -0700
                    Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 13:58 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:11 -0700
              Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 09:48 -0700
                Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 01:12 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2017-05-01 17:13 +0000
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 10:46 -0700
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:07 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:23 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:25 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:55 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:19 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:43 -0700
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:48 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:36 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:43 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:45 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-08 13:41 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 14:12 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:19 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 08:32 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:34 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:07 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:27 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:15 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:01 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:54 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:39 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:23 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-03 21:36 +0100
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:35 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-04 01:07 +0100
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:01 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:26 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:54 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:48 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:36 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:10 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 11:18 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:42 -0700
                              Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:08 +0300
                                Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 08:54 -0600
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:06 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:34 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:12 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:27 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:53 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 18:35 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-05-08 02:07 +0000
                                      Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:36 -0700
                                        Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:02 -0700
                                      Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:01 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:01 -0700
                                Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:44 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 22:35 +0300
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-09 13:00 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 22:08 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:16 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:44 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:21 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:12 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-03 18:37 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:42 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-04 09:33 +0100
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:53 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-04 15:08 +0200
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-04 14:51 +0100
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:18 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:18 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-04 12:13 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:27 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-04 13:02 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 13:20 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:48 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:47 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:44 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:55 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 20:09 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:37 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:36 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:14 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 03:59 -0700
                                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 11:10 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
    Why is Jesus the only way? cpascoshi@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 09:45 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:55 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "max.muster@picca.de" <dominic.ernst91@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 02:42 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 03:27 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-11 09:12 -0700

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#108931

On 5/1/17, 11:25 AM, in article
d4ec5bfe-4da4-4edf-9eeb-ee5c247b4835@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:23:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>> I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
>>> people can rape and murder and have slaves
>> 
>> Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?
> 
> I should say:  In this context where you are expressing the idea
> that God condones such thing, and instructs His people on how to
> regulate it as through the Law of Moses.

Again: have you not read the bible? If you really need my help to find
passages I will help you... just surprised you never actually read the
books!


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108936

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:55:47 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> On 5/1/17, 11:25 AM, in article
> d4ec5bfe-4da4-4edf-9eeb-ee5c247b4835@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
> <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:23:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> >>> I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
> >>> people can rape and murder and have slaves
> >> 
> >> Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?
> > 
> > I should say:  In this context where you are expressing the idea
> > that God condones such thing, and instructs His people on how to
> > regulate it as through the Law of Moses.
> 
> Again: have you not read the bible? If you really need my help to find
> passages I will help you... just surprised you never actually read the
> books!

I'm asking you to cite the passages you refer to.  There's a reason
why God has done everything He's done.  It requires understanding,
patience, and a desire to know the truth.

I'm asking you to begin where you are in your understanding, so I
can know what you are referring to, and then teach you the correct
understanding of it.

It's offered to you if you want to know the truth.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108942

On 5/1/17, 12:19 PM, in article
016525f0-feb8-4702-915c-8d23691c6b14@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:55:47 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/1/17, 11:25 AM, in article
>> d4ec5bfe-4da4-4edf-9eeb-ee5c247b4835@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
>> <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:23:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>>> I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
>>>>> people can rape and murder and have slaves
>>>> 
>>>> Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?
>>> 
>>> I should say:  In this context where you are expressing the idea
>>> that God condones such thing, and instructs His people on how to
>>> regulate it as through the Law of Moses.
>> 
>> Again: have you not read the bible? If you really need my help to find
>> passages I will help you... just surprised you never actually read the
>> books!
> 
> I'm asking you to cite the passages you refer to.

OK, these are just SOME passages you were not aware of from the Bible...
ones where it shows support for rape and murder:

<http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/>
<http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/>

> There's a reason why God has done everything He's done.  It requires
> understanding, patience, and a desire to know the truth.

This is not a sign of support of anything.

> I'm asking you to begin where you are in your understanding, so I can know
> what you are referring to, and then teach you the correct understanding of it.

Again, no support from you.
 
> It's offered to you if you want to know the truth.

If I told you I could tell you the truth of the Invisible Green Dragon would
you jump at the chance?

I doubt it.
 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108944

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > I'm asking you to cite the passages you refer to.
> 
> OK, these are just SOME passages you were not aware of from the Bible...
> ones where it shows support for rape and murder:
> 
> <http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/>
> <http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/>

I will not go to that site.  If you have passages, site them with
links to Biblehub.com, Biblegateway.com, or just by passage and
verse.

-----
And I'm trying to explain to you the way to faith, Snit.  You are
wrapped up in the idea that if you can be shown evidence, then you
will find it.

I'm telling you it's not like that.  Spirit is not flesh.  You
won't come to it through the same things you do for flesh.  When
a person is born again it's a new nature they're given.  The old
man passes away, the new man comes into being.  The two are not
the same.

Flesh is flesh.
Spirit is spirit.

Until you are willing to use the approach I outline (just seek to
know the truth about this with an honest truth-seeking endeavor),
it will remain forever hidden from you.  But once you set your
sights on knowing the truth, whether it affirms your prior beliefs,
or provides you with the truth, then you will find it because God
Himself will lead you.

Are you understanding that there's a difference between flesh and
spirit?  And that you cannot use flesh-things to arrive at spirit-
things?

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108954

On 5/1/2017 12:48 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> I'm asking you to cite the passages you refer to.
>>
>> OK, these are just SOME passages you were not aware of from the Bible...
>> ones where it shows support for rape and murder:
>>
>> <http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/>
>> <http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/>
>
> I will not go to that site.  If you have passages, site them with
> links to Biblehub.com, Biblegateway.com, or just by passage and
> verse.
>
> -----
> And I'm trying to explain to you the way to faith, Snit.  You are
> wrapped up in the idea that if you can be shown evidence, then you
> will find it.
>
> I'm telling you it's not like that.  Spirit is not flesh.  You
> won't come to it through the same things you do for flesh.  When
> a person is born again it's a new nature they're given.  The old
> man passes away, the new man comes into being.  The two are not
> the same.
>
> Flesh is flesh.
> Spirit is spirit.
>
> Until you are willing to use the approach I outline (just seek to
> know the truth about this with an honest truth-seeking endeavor),
> it will remain forever hidden from you.  But once you set your
> sights on knowing the truth, whether it affirms your prior beliefs,
> or provides you with the truth, then you will find it because God
> Himself will lead you.
>
> Are you understanding that there's a difference between flesh and
> spirit?  And that you cannot use flesh-things to arrive at spirit-
> things?

Did the angles ask Mary if it would be okay to impregnate her with the 
clone of god? Or, was this a form of horrific rap%? She wakes up, and 
shes fuc%ing pregnant? Not cool man!

If they did ask her permission, either way, it sounds like alien 
abduction, cosmic science experiment type of crap. Weird!

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#108956

On 5/1/17, 1:36 PM, in article oe862k$8ru$1@dont-email.me, "Chris M.
Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>> Until you are willing to use the approach I outline (just seek to
>> know the truth about this with an honest truth-seeking endeavor),
>> it will remain forever hidden from you.  But once you set your
>> sights on knowing the truth, whether it affirms your prior beliefs,
>> or provides you with the truth, then you will find it because God
>> Himself will lead you.
>> 
>> Are you understanding that there's a difference between flesh and
>> spirit?  And that you cannot use flesh-things to arrive at spirit-
>> things?
> 
> Did the angles ask Mary if it would be okay to impregnate her with the
> clone of god? Or, was this a form of horrific rap%? She wakes up, and
> shes fuc%ing pregnant? Not cool man!

And they were never married... so even if consensual, which we have no
evidence of, it was outside of marriage.

> If they did ask her permission, either way, it sounds like alien
> abduction, cosmic science experiment type of crap. Weird!

Pretty much. Very ungodly experience!

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#108957

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:36:44 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> Did the angles ask Mary...

Read the account for yourself, and see for yourself:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/1.htm

    The Birth of Jesus Foretold

    26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God
       unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
    27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the
       house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
    28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art
       highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among
       women.
    29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast
       in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
    30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast
       found favour with God.
    31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth
       a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
    32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest:
       and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father
       David:
    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of
       his kingdom there shall be no end.

    34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I
       know not a man?
    35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
       come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow
       thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of
       thee shall be called the Son of God.
    36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a
       son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who
       was called barren.
    37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

    38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me
       according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

Mary was a young Jewish girl devout in her faith.  She knew of the
coming Jewish Messiah.  It was an honor for her to be chosen in this
way.

    46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
    47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
    48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for,
       behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
    49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy
       is his name.
    50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to
       generation.
    51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the
       proud in the imagination of their hearts.
    52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them
       of low degree.
    53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he
       hath sent empty away.
    54 He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
    55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.

God chose His entrance into this world very carefully.  It was of
the line of David as foretold in the Old Testament prophecy.  It
is an event (Jesus coming to the Earth and saving mankind) that
has no equal.

It is the greatest thing man has ever received:  redemption, from
Hellfire and eternal damnation.  And He's made it just for the
asking.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108962

On 5/1/17, 1:45 PM, in article
7d7c34bf-ff4c-4102-ab3f-d12b8b02b8a5@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:36:44 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> Did the angles ask Mary...
> 
> Read the account for yourself, and see for yourself:

I have.

> 
>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/1.htm
> 
>     The Birth of Jesus Foretold
> 
>     26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God
>        unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
>     27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the
>        house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Yeah: she was engaged to someone else. God was a real jerk.

>     28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art
>        highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among
>        women.
>     29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast
>        in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
>     30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast
>        found favour with God.
>     31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth
>        a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

So he did not ask. Yeah, a real jerk. He raped her.

>     32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest:
>        and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father
>        David:
>     33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of
>        his kingdom there shall be no end.
> 
>     34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I
>        know not a man?

Yet the bible lists James as one of Jesus's siblings and does so before his
name... which generally indicates an older sibling.

>     35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
>        come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow
>        thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of
>        thee shall be called the Son of God.
>     36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a
>        son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who
>        was called barren.
>     37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
> 
>     38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me
>        according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

Even though she was engaged to another man and not married! How horrid of
her. And did she even have the choice to say no?

Seems very much like this deity sent messengers to say he was going to rape
her.

> Mary was a young Jewish girl devout in her faith.  She knew of the
> coming Jewish Messiah.  It was an honor for her to be chosen in this
> way.

What if she had said no? Seems this deity of yours gave her no choice.

>     46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
>     47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
>     48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for,
>        behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
>     49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy
>        is his name.
>     50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to
>        generation.
>     51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the
>        proud in the imagination of their hearts.
>     52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them
>        of low degree.
>     53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he
>        hath sent empty away.
>     54 He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
>     55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
> 
> God chose His entrance into this world very carefully.

You mean from Mary's vagina?

> It was of
> the line of David as foretold in the Old Testament prophecy.  It
> is an event (Jesus coming to the Earth and saving mankind) that
> has no equal.

What do you know of the Invisible Green Dragon?

> It is the greatest thing man has ever received:  redemption, from
> Hellfire and eternal damnation.  And He's made it just for the
> asking.

You make a lot of claims with no support. Why?

> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


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#109544

On 5/1/2017 1:45 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:36:44 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> Did the angles ask Mary...
>
> Read the account for yourself, and see for yourself:
[...]
> God chose His entrance into this world very carefully.  It was of
> the line of David as foretold in the Old Testament prophecy.  It
> is an event (Jesus coming to the Earth and saving mankind) that
> has no equal.

It sounds like God is a hyper smart scientist with some sort of ocd.

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#109548

On 5/8/17, 1:41 PM, in article oeqkvs$b0m$1@dont-email.me, "Chris M.
Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 5/1/2017 1:45 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:36:44 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> Did the angles ask Mary...
>> 
>> Read the account for yourself, and see for yourself:
> [...]
>> God chose His entrance into this world very carefully.  It was of
>> the line of David as foretold in the Old Testament prophecy.  It
>> is an event (Jesus coming to the Earth and saving mankind) that
>> has no equal.
> 
> It sounds like God is a hyper smart scientist with some sort of ocd.

LOL!

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#108930

On 5/1/17, 11:23 AM, in article
39e82acb-593a-4067-84ca-15151d8f80f5@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
>> people can rape and murder and have slaves
> 
> Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?

Do you admit you do not know where they are? I thought you said you read it!

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#108878

On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> We are not your clones. ;)
> 
<https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>

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#108880

On 5/1/2017 8:19 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>
> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>

lol! :^)

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#108881

On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>
> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>

Transcript, please!


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#108911

On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kb9$87h$1@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>
> 
> Transcript, please!
> 
<http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/ithinkimaclonenow.html>

:)

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#108951

On 5/1/2017 11:07 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kb9$87h$1@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>>>
>>> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>
>>
>> Transcript, please!
>>
> <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/ithinkimaclonenow.html>
>
> :)
>

Very funny. Thank you for posting it.

Fwiw, I personally think that Jesus might be a clone of god in the 
physical form?

;^)

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#108972

On 5/1/17, 1:27 PM, in article oe85i9$62q$1@dont-email.me, "Chris M.
Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 5/1/2017 11:07 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kb9$87h$1@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>>>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>>>> 
>>>> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>
>>> 
>>> Transcript, please!
>>> 
>> <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/ithinkimaclonenow.html>
>> 
>> :)
>> 
> 
> Very funny. Thank you for posting it.
> 
> Fwiw, I personally think that Jesus might be a clone of god in the
> physical form?
> 
> ;^)

I am OK with people beleiving whatever they wish. I am an atheist but if you
believe in God, Allah, the mother spirit, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or
the Invisible Green Dragon I am find with that.

What I have an issue with is people pushing their views on others.

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#108973

W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 00:12:14 UTC+2 użytkownik Snit napisał:
> On 5/1/17, 1:27 PM, in article oe85i9$62q$1@dont-email.me, "Chris M.
> Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > On 5/1/2017 11:07 AM, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kb9$87h$1@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
> >> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
> >>>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> We are not your clones. ;)
> >>>>> 
> >>>> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>
> >>> 
> >>> Transcript, please!
> >>> 
> >> <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/ithinkimaclonenow.html>
> >> 
> >> :)
> >> 
> > 
> > Very funny. Thank you for posting it.
> > 
> > Fwiw, I personally think that Jesus might be a clone of god in the
> > physical form?
> > 
> > ;^)
> 
> I am OK with people beleiving whatever they wish. I am an atheist but if you
> believe in God, Allah, the mother spirit, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or
> the Invisible Green Dragon I am find with that.
> 
> What I have an issue with is people pushing their views on others.
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
> use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
> superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

tell me, are you this cryminal pig vandalising this group by its piggy scripts?

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#108981

On 5/1/17, 3:15 PM, in article
2a8e91b3-61e2-481a-ae28-8c5f3b4fbd3f@googlegroups.com, "fir"
<profesor.fir@gmail.com> wrote:

> W dniu wtorek, 2 maja 2017 00:12:14 UTC+2 użytkownik Snit napisał:
>> On 5/1/17, 1:27 PM, in article oe85i9$62q$1@dont-email.me, "Chris M.
>> Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5/1/2017 11:07 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kb9$87h$1@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>>>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/5/2017 11:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/1/17, 6:53 AM, in article oe7eff$hto$3@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
>>>>>> Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are not your clones. ;)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/1d-aWMQuoS4>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Transcript, please!
>>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/ithinkimaclonenow.html>
>>>> 
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Very funny. Thank you for posting it.
>>> 
>>> Fwiw, I personally think that Jesus might be a clone of god in the
>>> physical form?
>>> 
>>> ;^)
>> 
>> I am OK with people beleiving whatever they wish. I am an atheist but if you
>> believe in God, Allah, the mother spirit, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or
>> the Invisible Green Dragon I am find with that.
>> 
>> What I have an issue with is people pushing their views on others.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
>> use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
>> superior by attacking the messenger.
>> 
>> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> tell me, are you this cryminal pig vandalising this group by its piggy
> scripts?

Of course not. Those who are doing so are claiming to not, but their excuse
is so thin as to be insane: they claim I hacked one (or more?) of their
Google accounts and Google and "several federal agencies" got involved but
could not stop me. Meanwhile they also have shared information and even some
videos on how they are fiddling with Google Groups with JavaScript.

If you want more specifics let's take this to email. Even then I will likely
not find all the posts and videos, but I will look some.

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#108977

Snit wrote:
> What I have an issue with is people pushing their views on others.

I am not forcing my views on others.  I am teaching all of you what
truth is because there's an enemy of God at work in this world teaching
falseness as though it were truth.

Jesus Christ is truth.  Sin is real.  The punishment for sin is real,
and it is eternal damnation in Hellfire.  And God offers us a way to
be saved from that end:  Jesus Christ.

This is truth.  It's why I teach it.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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