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looking at binary files with C

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  looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 00:06 -0600
    Re: looking at binary files with C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-12 18:41 +1200
      Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 00:58 -0600
    Re: looking at binary files with C Barry Schwarz <schwarz45@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-12 00:05 -0700
      Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 01:41 -0600
        Re: looking at binary files with C "Joachim Schmitz" <jojo.nospam@schmitz-digital.de> - 2011-06-12 11:44 +0200
        Re: looking at binary files with C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-12 10:25 -0600
    Re: looking at binary files with C Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2011-06-12 10:26 +0000
    Re: looking at binary files with C Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-06-12 08:23 -0400
      Re: looking at binary files with C Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2011-06-13 23:48 -0700
      Re: looking at binary files with C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-06-23 00:55 -0700
    Re: looking at binary files with C "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-12 14:26 +0100
    Re: looking at binary files with C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-12 10:24 -0600
      Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 14:47 -0600
        Re: looking at binary files with C "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-12 22:23 +0100
          Re: looking at binary files with C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-12 14:29 -0700
            Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 16:31 -0600
              Re: looking at binary files with C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-12 16:14 -0700
                Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 18:41 -0600
        Re: looking at binary files with C Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-06-12 17:42 -0400
          Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 17:01 -0600
            Re: looking at binary files with C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-12 16:23 -0700
              Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 17:24 -0600
                Re: looking at binary files with C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-13 11:28 +1200
                  Re: looking at binary files with C Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-06-12 16:52 -0700
                Re: looking at binary files with C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-13 08:51 -0700
              Re: looking at binary files with C Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-13 14:39 +0000
                Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-13 20:01 -0600
                  Re: looking at binary files with C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-13 19:24 -0700
                    Re: looking at binary files with C Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-14 17:02 +0000
                      Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-16 01:32 -0600
            Re: looking at binary files with C Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-06-13 07:57 -0400
              Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-13 20:23 -0600
                Re: looking at binary files with C Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-06-13 23:12 -0400
                  Re: looking at binary files with C lovecreatesbeauty <lovecreatesbeauty@gmail.com> - 2011-06-14 01:09 -0700
            Re: looking at binary files with C Oliver Jackson <chexmofo@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-15 20:15 -0700
        Re: looking at binary files with C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-12 18:41 -0600
        Re: looking at binary files with C James Waldby <not@valid.invalid> - 2011-06-13 01:16 +0000
          Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-12 19:48 -0600
          Re: looking at binary files with C "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-14 12:19 +0200
            Re: looking at binary files with C lovecreatesbeauty <lovecreatesbeauty@gmail.com> - 2011-06-14 03:58 -0700
              Re: looking at binary files with C "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-14 19:07 +0200
                Re: looking at binary files with C "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-14 19:46 +0200
                Re: looking at binary files with C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-14 16:08 -0600
            Re: looking at binary files with C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-15 08:47 +1200
        Re: looking at binary files with C Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2011-06-13 23:51 -0700
    Re: looking at binary files with C Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-15 13:06 -0700
      Re: looking at binary files with C Uno <Uno@example.invalid> - 2011-06-16 01:38 -0600
        Re: looking at binary files with C Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-16 00:54 -0700
          Re: looking at binary files with C James Waldby <not@valid.invalid> - 2011-06-16 16:59 +0000
        Re: looking at binary files with C "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-06-16 18:32 +0100

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#6054

From	lovecreatesbeauty <lovecreatesbeauty@gmail.com>
Date	2011-06-14 03:58 -0700
Message-ID	<203fd31e-5f12-4919-b9c3-5f8be907e3bd@h12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#6053

On Jun 14, 6:19 pm, "io_x" <a...@b.c.invalid> wrote:
>        {if(i=='\t')
>              P("[\\t, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\a')
>              P("[\\a, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\r')
>              P("[\\r, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\n')
>              P("[\\n, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\b')
>              P("[\\b, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\f')
>              P("[\\f, %u]", nc[i]);
>          else if(i=='\v')
>              P("[\\v, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else if(i=='\\')
>              P("[\\, %u]", nc[i]);
>         else P("[%c, %u]", i, nc[i]);

i think there're some other chars can't be printed. see the demo of
your code. Note the last "PuTTY" brought by running your code.

$ make && ./a.out ./intro.wmv

[cut]

N. Bytes File ./a.out=665107
$ PuTTY

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#6068

From	"io_x" <a@b.c.invalid>
Date	2011-06-14 19:07 +0200
Message-ID	<4df794e8$0$45734$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it>
In reply to	#6054

"lovecreatesbeauty" <lovecreatesbeauty@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:203fd31e-5f12-4919-b9c3-5f8be907e3bd@h12g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>On Jun 14, 6:19 pm, "io_x" <a...@b.c.invalid> wrote:
>> {if(i=='\t')
>> P("[\\t, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\a')
>> P("[\\a, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\r')
>> P("[\\r, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\n')
>> P("[\\n, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\b')
>> P("[\\b, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\f')
>> P("[\\f, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\v')
>> P("[\\v, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else if(i=='\\')
>> P("[\\, %u]", nc[i]);
>> else P("[%c, %u]", i, nc[i]);

>i think there're some other chars can't be printed. see the demo of
>your code. Note the last "PuTTY" brought by running your code.
>
>$ make && ./a.out ./intro.wmv
>
>[cut]

>N. Bytes File ./a.out=665107
>$ PuTTY

i hope it not changed something on your tty...
what about this?
-------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdint.h>
#include <limits.h>
#include <ctype.h>

// macro for types
#define  u64  uint64_t
#define  u32  uint32_t
#define  u16  uint16_t
#define  u8    uint8_t

// macro for function
#define  P  printf

// macro for keyWords
#define G  goto
#define R  return
#define W  while
#define F  for

int  main(int  c, char**  a)
{u32    nc[256],  i, cont, r;
 FILE       *pf;

 if(sizeof(u32)!=sizeof(int)||CHAR_BIT!=8)
          {P("Incompatible with your sys\n");          R  0;}
 // P("c=%d s=[%s]\n", c, (a[0]==0?"NULL": a[0]));
 if(c<=1) {P("Uso: \">program.exe  nomeFile\" \n");    R  0;}
 pf=fopen(a[1], "rb");
 if(pf==0){P("ERRORE: Non riesco a aprire il file\n"); R  0;}
 F(i=0; i<256; ++i)
              nc[i]=0;
 W(1){i=fgetc(pf);
      if(i==(u32)-1||i>=256)
             break;
      ++nc[i];
     }
 if((i!=(u32)-1&&i>=256)||ferror(pf))
     {fclose(pf);
      err: P("Some error in read the file\n"); R  0;}
 fclose(pf);
 F(i=0, cont=0; i<256; ++i)
       {r=cont;
        cont+=nc[i];
        if(cont<r) G  err;
       }
 F(i=0; i<256; ++i)
       {if(i=='\t')
             P("[%3u,\\t, %5u]",i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\a')
             P("[%3u,\\a, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\r')
             P("[%3u,\\r, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\n')
             P("[%3u,\\n, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\b')
             P("[%3u,\\b, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\f')
             P("[%3u,\\f, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
         else if(i=='\v')
             P("[%3u,\\v, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(i=='\\')
             P("[%3u, \\, %5u]", i, nc[i]);
        else if(!isprint(i))
             P("[%3u, ?, %5u]",  i, nc[i]);
        else P("[%3u, %c, %5u]", i, i, nc[i]);
        if((i+1)%5==0) P("\n");
       }
 P("\nN. Bytes File %s=%u\n", (a[1]==0?" ": a[1]), cont);
 R 0;
}

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[255, ?,  1193]
N. Bytes File nasmdoc.pdf=870724
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#6073

From	"io_x" <a@b.c.invalid>
Date	2011-06-14 19:46 +0200
Message-ID	<4df79e09$0$45733$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it>
In reply to	#6068

"io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:4df794e8$0$45734$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it...
>>i think there're some other chars can't be printed. see the demo of
>>your code. Note the last "PuTTY" brought by running your code.
>>
>>$ make && ./a.out ./intro.wmv
>>
>>[cut]
>
>>N. Bytes File ./a.out=665107
>>$ PuTTY
>
> i hope it not changed something on your tty...
> what about this?
> -------------
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdint.h>
> #include <limits.h>
> #include <ctype.h>
>
> // macro for types
> #define  u64  uint64_t
> #define  u32  uint32_t
> #define  u16  uint16_t
> #define  u8    uint8_t
>
> // macro for function
> #define  P  printf
>
> // macro for keyWords
> #define G  goto
> #define R  return
> #define W  while
> #define F  for
>
> int  main(int  c, char**  a)
> {u32    nc[256],  i, cont, r;
> FILE       *pf;
>
> if(sizeof(u32)!=sizeof(int)||CHAR_BIT!=8)
>          {P("Incompatible with your sys\n");          R  0;}
> // P("c=%d s=[%s]\n", c, (a[0]==0?"NULL": a[0]));
> if(c<=1) {P("Uso: \">program.exe  nomeFile\" \n");    R  0;}
> pf=fopen(a[1], "rb");
> if(pf==0){P("ERRORE: Non riesco a aprire il file\n"); R  0;}
> F(i=0; i<256; ++i)
>              nc[i]=0;
> W(1){i=fgetc(pf);
>      if(i==(u32)-1||i>=256)
>             break;
>      ++nc[i];
>     }

in the count of each char i forgot to see for nc[]s overflow

W(1){i=fgetc(pf);
     if(i==(u32)-1||i>=256)
             break;
      ++nc[i];
      if(nc[i]==0) G err1;
    }

> if((i!=(u32)-1&&i>=256)||ferror(pf))
     {err1: fclose(pf);
>      err: P("Some error in read the file\n"); R  0;}
> fclose(pf);
> F(i=0, cont=0; i<256; ++i)
>       {r=cont;
>        cont+=nc[i];
>        if(cont<r) G  err;
>       }

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#6083

From	Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date	2011-06-14 16:08 -0600
Message-ID	<1bhb7s6p82.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net>
In reply to	#6068

"io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> writes:

> // macro for types
> #define  u64  uint64_t
> #define  u32  uint32_t
> #define  u16  uint16_t
> #define  u8    uint8_t
>
> // macro for function
> #define  P  printf
>
> // macro for keyWords
> #define G  goto
> #define R  return
> #define W  while
> #define F  for

Please, no.

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#6077

From	Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Date	2011-06-15 08:47 +1200
Message-ID	<95pvmaFt6eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#6053

On 06/14/11 10:19 PM, io_x wrote:
>
> this is my try, i know there will be error etc etc
> i'm not perfect...
>
> #include<stdio.h>
> #include<stdint.h>
> #include<limits.h>
>
> // macro for types
> #define  u64  uint64_t
> #define  u32  uint32_t
> #define  u16  uint16_t
> #define  u8    uint8_t
>
> // macro for function
> #define  P  printf

Readers can stop here!

-- 
Ian Collins

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#6041

From	Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de>
Date	2011-06-13 23:51 -0700
Message-ID	<4f8a7346-e108-4211-be1e-dfdebddea775@16g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#5916

On 12 jun, 22:47, Uno <U...@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 06/12/2011 10:24 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> > Uno<U...@example.invalid>  writes:
> >> So, why the seg fault?
>
> > Let's just say this code is a prime example of why I took points of on
> > student programs that had magic numbers (like 7000000 for instance) in
> > the executable code.
>
> There were a lot of problems with this source that needing ironing out,
> and I needed to start to somehwhere.  When I've got a program that
> compiles, I like to have the magic numbers #defined.  I haven't really
> done much C on a 64-bit processor, so my ballparking seems to be wanting.
>
> $  cc -Wall -Wextra -g hist3.c -o hist
> $ ./hist
> UCHAR_MAX + 1 is 256
> a[0] is 217337
> a[1] is 123676
> a[2] is 137894
> a[3] is 100155
> ...
> a[252] is 97099
> a[253] is 75547
> a[254] is 113450
> a[255] is 128194
> Counter reached 19573713
> Counter2 reached 19573712
> $ cat hist3.c
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <limits.h>
> #define SIZE 20000000
> #define SIZE2 (UCHAR_MAX+1)
>
> int main(void)
> {
>      int c;
>      long counter = 0;
>      long counter2 = 0;
>      long a[SIZE2];
>      long i, j;
>      FILE *fp;
>      fp = fopen("shoulder.wmv", "rb+");
>      printf("UCHAR_MAX + 1 is %d\n", SIZE2);
>      for (i = 0; i < (SIZE2); ++i) {
>         a[i] = 0;
>      }
>      for (j = 0; j < SIZE; ++j) {
>         c = fgetc(fp);
>         counter++;
>         if (c != EOF) {
>             a[c] = ++a[c];
>         } else
>             break;
>      }
>      for (i = 0; i < (SIZE2); ++i) {
>         printf("a[%ld] is %ld\n", i, a[i]);
>         counter2 = counter2 + a[i];
>      }
>      printf("Counter reached %ld\n", counter);
>      printf("Counter2 reached %ld\n", counter2);
>      fclose(fp);
>      return 0;
>
> }
>
> // cc -Wall -Wextra -g hist3.c -o hist
> $
>
> I needed two different SIZES, one that would be larger than the byte
> count of the file to be read and another that was one greater than
> UCHAR_MAX.  Seems to behave.  Thanks all for comments.
> --
> Uno

Before trying to get a program compiled correctly you might need to
spend some time on design first.
Hans

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#6116

From	Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
Date	2011-06-15 13:06 -0700
Message-ID	<rubrum-B28B16.13065415062011@news.albasani.net>
In reply to	#5881

In article <95j3bgFj2qU1@mid.individual.net>, Uno <Uno@example.invalid> 
wrote:

[...]

Code as disorganized as what you present here will fail
with high probability. You have posted in clc enough to
have heard most of the advice on writing good code, and
heard all the mistakes tyros make, some of which you
made here.

Perhaps at this time you are incapable of writing good
beginner's code even with help. What do you say? Do you
want to tackle this?

-- 
Michael Press

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#6139

From	Uno <Uno@example.invalid>
Date	2011-06-16 01:38 -0600
Message-ID	<95tq70Fc5lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#6116

On 06/15/2011 02:06 PM, Michael Press wrote:
> In article<95j3bgFj2qU1@mid.individual.net>, Uno<Uno@example.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Code as disorganized as what you present here will fail
> with high probability. You have posted in clc enough to
> have heard most of the advice on writing good code, and
> heard all the mistakes tyros make, some of which you
> made here.
>
> Perhaps at this time you are incapable of writing good
> beginner's code even with help. What do you say? Do you
> want to tackle this?
>

Get bent.  That's english for your english sucks.

And plonk.
-- 
Uno

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#6140

From	Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
Date	2011-06-16 00:54 -0700
Message-ID	<rubrum-3AF7CA.00544616062011@news.albasani.net>
In reply to	#6139

In article <95tq70Fc5lU2@mid.individual.net>, Uno <Uno@example.invalid> 
wrote:

> On 06/15/2011 02:06 PM, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article<95j3bgFj2qU1@mid.individual.net>, Uno<Uno@example.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Code as disorganized as what you present here will fail
> > with high probability. You have posted in clc enough to
> > have heard most of the advice on writing good code, and
> > heard all the mistakes tyros make, some of which you
> > made here.
> >
> > Perhaps at this time you are incapable of writing good
> > beginner's code even with help. What do you say? Do you
> > want to tackle this?
> >
> 
> Get bent.  That's english for your english sucks.

What does English have to do with this?
 
> And plonk.

That's not English.

-- 
Michael Press

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#6163

From	James Waldby <not@valid.invalid>
Date	2011-06-16 16:59 +0000
Message-ID	<itdcpp$s60$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#6140

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:54:47 -0700, Michael Press wrote:
> In article <95tq70Fc5lU2@mid.individual.net>, Uno <Uno@example.invalid>
> wrote:
>> On 06/15/2011 02:06 PM, Michael Press wrote:
>> > ... Uno<Uno@example.invalid> wrote:
...
>> > Code as disorganized as what you present here will fail with high
>> > probability. You have posted in clc enough to have heard most of the
>> > advice on writing good code, and heard all the mistakes tyros make,
>> > some of which you made here.
>> >
>> > Perhaps at this time you are incapable of writing good beginner's
>> > code even with help. What do you say? Do you want to tackle this?
>> >
>> Get bent.  That's english for your english sucks.
> 
> What does English have to do with this?
>  
>> And plonk.
> 
> That's not English.

It certainly is.  For example, the Wikipedia entry for Plonk (wine)
says "Plonk is an unspecific and derogatory term in British and 
Australian English for wine that is notably inexpensive or judged 
to be of poor quality."  However, Uno, who is the plonker[*] in 
the above exchange, undoubtedly meant it in the Plonk (Usenet) 
sense, "adding a particular Usenet poster to one's kill file".

[*] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonker>

-- 
jiw

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#6166

From	"J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk>
Date	2011-06-16 18:32 +0100
Message-ID	<itden0$8ek$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#6139

Uno wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 02:06 PM, Michael Press wrote:
>> In article<95j3bgFj2qU1@mid.individual.net>, Uno<Uno@example.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Code as disorganized as what you present here will fail
>> with high probability. You have posted in clc enough to
>> have heard most of the advice on writing good code, and
>> heard all the mistakes tyros make, some of which you
>> made here.
>>
>> Perhaps at this time you are incapable of writing good
>> beginner's code even with help. What do you say? Do you
>> want to tackle this?
>>
> 
> Get bent.  That's english for your english sucks.

Interesting; not that it's topical, but what's wrong with his English? 
It looks fine to me.

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