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| Started by | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| First post | 2015-04-07 07:44 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-04-09 05:20 +1000 |
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How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-04-07 07:44 +0200
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-07 09:06 +0100
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-04-08 08:16 +0200
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-08 07:59 +0100
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-04-08 12:03 +0100
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-08 12:13 +0100
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-08 22:25 +1000
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-04-08 14:20 +0100
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-08 08:41 -0700
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-09 02:22 +1000
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-09 02:32 +1000
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-08 11:29 -0700
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-09 04:54 +1000
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-04-08 19:57 +0200
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-09 04:55 +1000
Re: How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> - 2015-04-09 05:20 +1000
| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-04-07 07:44 +0200 |
| Subject | How do you upload a pdf to the clc wiki? |
| Message-ID | <mfvqqe$6bp$1@dont-email.me> |
I would like to add the document I prepared about the discussionstrtoll etc here to the wiki. As administrator "Flash Gordon" is named but he hasn't posted here for a long while. If anyone here has write rights in there please let me know how can I update that stuff. Thanks. P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to rewrite the standard library. It would be a first contribution since that project pages are empty.
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-07 09:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mg0341$uim$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59728 |
On 07/04/15 06:44, jacobnavia wrote: > I would like to add the document I prepared about the discussionstrtoll > etc here to the wiki. As administrator "Flash Gordon" is named but he > hasn't posted here for a long while. Get yourself an account. Then use the "Upload file" facility (look at the bottom of the left-hand-side list). > P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to rewrite > the standard library. It would be a first contribution since that > project pages are empty. I wasn't aware that such a project existed. If you mean "document" rather than "rewrite", then sure, go ahead. If you really do mean "rewrite" as in deconstruct and build up from scratch, I'm not sure that I see the point. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 08:16 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg2h1j$m0d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59729 |
Le 07/04/2015 10:06, Richard Heathfield a écrit : > Get yourself an account. Well, that is the problem. Nowhere do I see anything to create an account! The closets I got was: http://www.clc-wiki.net/wiki/clc-wiki#Contributing_quickstart All that's required to make an edit is an account, which you can create by clicking the link at the top of the page There is NO LINK at the top of the page! The only links at the top are: project page discussion view source history ???
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 07:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mg2jis$roi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59788 |
On 08/04/15 07:16, jacobnavia wrote: > Le 07/04/2015 10:06, Richard Heathfield a écrit : >> Get yourself an account. > > Well, that is the problem. Nowhere do I see anything to create an account! > It's quite well-hidden, I agree, but it really is there, lurking at the top right corner of the page. You may need to unfold this URL, but I think you'll find that it works. http://www.clc-wiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Special%3AListUsers&type=signup If it's any consolation, I had the same hard time finding "log in", when logging in for what appears to be the first time in nine years or so. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 12:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87wq1myj8n.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #59791 |
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: > On 08/04/15 07:16, jacobnavia wrote: >> Le 07/04/2015 10:06, Richard Heathfield a écrit : >>> Get yourself an account. >> >> Well, that is the problem. Nowhere do I see anything to create an >> account! No, neither could I. > It's quite well-hidden, I agree, but it really is there, lurking at > the top right corner of the page. It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means. Obviously the text "which you can create by clicking the link at the top of the page" should be edited to be (or include) a link to the right page so that the whole hunt-the-link game can be avoided, but when I created an account to do just this, I was told that the page in question is protected. Is there any contactable administrator, or should we consider the wiki moribund? <snip> -- Ben.
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 12:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mg32fb$e27$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59803 |
On 08/04/15 12:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Is there any contactable administrator, or should we > consider the wiki moribund? > I think it /was/ moribund. I haven't even looked at it for about nine years. But when Jacob mentioned it, I logged back in (remembering the password was a challenge!). It seems to have had a somewhat lacklustre decade. I've tried to breathe a little life back into it over the last few days. There is still a contactable administrator who seems to be able to mend things. (I tried to upload an image file, it failed, I contacted him, and he fixed the server permissions, so presumably he has a reasonable degree of administrative access.) If you add a message to http://www.clc-wiki.net/wiki/clc-wiki_talk:Config:Wiki I think you might have a fighting chance of attracting his attention. Disclaimer: no, it's not me. :-) I have no real idea of who he is. His user name is 'Laird'. I don't think he's Mark 'Flash' Gordon, who is the guy that originally set up the wiki (and who, remarkably, is presumably still funding the Web space). -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 22:25 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg36nm$i09$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59806 |
On 08/04/15 21:13, Richard Heathfield wrote: > There is still a contactable administrator who seems to be able to > mend things. (I tried to upload an image file, it failed, I > contacted him, and he fixed the server permissions, so presumably he > has a reasonable degree of administrative access.) Hi, yes, that's me. Flash has given me root access on the server hosting the clc wiki. I helped set up the wiki all those years ago when going under the pseudonym "Netocrat". On 07/04/15 15:44, jacobnavia wrote: > I would like to add the document I prepared about the > discussionstrtoll etc here to the wiki. I've just added PDFs to the list of file types accepted by the file upload page, so hopefully it should work for you. Please let me know if it doesn't. On 07/04/15 18:06, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 07/04/15 06:44, jacobnavia wrote: >> P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to >> rewrite the standard library. It would be a first contribution >> since that project pages are empty. > > I wasn't aware that such a project existed. If you mean "document" > rather than "rewrite", then sure, go ahead. If you really do mean > "rewrite" as in deconstruct and build up from scratch, I'm not sure > that I see the point. There was/is a (vastly incomplete) project to write, in the process of documenting it, a portable implementation of the standard library, abstracting those parts that could/can not be implemented portably. You can see, for example, on the page documenting string.h that the non-portable components __np_size_t and _NC_RESTRICT link to the page intended to collect non-portable stuff: <http://clc-wiki.net/wiki/C_standard_library:string.h>. I no longer recall why __np_size_t was considered necessary, but _NC_RESTRICT seems easier to understand. On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't > see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create > account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using > a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means. My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked. Laird
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87mw2iycwg.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #59810 |
Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes: <snip> > On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't >> see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create >> account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using >> a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means. > > My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought > I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that > LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the > wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just > made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked. Yes, that's much better in my option. Thanks. -- Ben.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 08:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <876196wrua.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #59810 |
Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes:
[...]
> On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't
>> see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create
>> account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using
>> a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means.
>
> My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought
> I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that
> LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the
> wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just
> made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked.
Better. But the login link is labeled "Log"; "Log in" would be clearer.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 02:22 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg3kkg$obj$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59829 |
On 09/04/15 01:41, Keith Thompson wrote: > Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes: > [...] >> On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>> It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't >>> see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create >>> account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using >>> a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means. >> >> My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought >> I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that >> LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the >> wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just >> made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked. > > Better. But the login link is labeled "Log"; "Log in" would be clearer. > Odd, I can't reproduce that on any of the browsers to which I have access; they all have "Log in" already. Which browser+platform are you using?
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 02:32 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg3l6m$ptt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59830 |
On 09/04/15 02:22, Laird wrote: > On 09/04/15 01:41, Keith Thompson wrote: >> Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes: >> [...] >>> On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>> It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't >>>> see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create >>>> account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using >>>> a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means. >>> >>> My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought >>> I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that >>> LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the >>> wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just >>> made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked. >> >> Better. But the login link is labeled "Log"; "Log in" would be clearer. >> > > Odd, I can't reproduce that on any of the browsers to which I have > access; they all have "Log in" already. Which browser+platform are you > using? Nvm, I hadn't checked the main page, it seems it was only occurring there. Seems to have been a caching issue - I reset the cache epoch and the problem seems to have cleared up. Please let me know if you're still experiencing the problem.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 11:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87sicav5gq.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #59831 |
Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes:
> On 09/04/15 02:22, Laird wrote:
>> On 09/04/15 01:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>> On 08/04/15 21:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>> It is very well hidden indeed. There is an icon so small I can't
>>>>> see what it it supposed to be that has a roll-over menu with "create
>>>>> account". It's simpler to find by viewing the source, or by using
>>>>> a text-based browser like Lynx, than it is by conventional means.
>>>>
>>>> My fault - when I first wrote the Treeview skin for the wiki, I thought
>>>> I was helpfully saving screen space by tucking account links behind that
>>>> LED. Later, I realised that it unhelpfully hides functionality, but the
>>>> wiki was by then so disused that I didn't bother to fix it. I've just
>>>> made an attempt now - please let me know if it's worked.
>>>
>>> Better. But the login link is labeled "Log"; "Log in" would be clearer.
>>>
>>
>> Odd, I can't reproduce that on any of the browsers to which I have
>> access; they all have "Log in" already. Which browser+platform are you
>> using?
>
> Nvm, I hadn't checked the main page, it seems it was only occurring
> there. Seems to have been a caching issue - I reset the cache epoch
> and the problem seems to have cleared up. Please let me know if you're
> still experiencing the problem.
It looks good now, but I'm not using the same system where I saw the
problem.
This probably isn't the best place to discuss this kind of detail. I
presume your "nospam@..." address is not valid. If I have more issues
with the web site I'll send you e-mail (though the image on the contact
page on your web site isn't loading). Or should I post on the wiki
somewhere, perhaps <http://clc-wiki.net/wiki/Talk:Main_Page>?
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 04:54 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg3thn$fhl$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59839 |
On 09/04/15 04:29, Keith Thompson wrote: > I presume your "nospam@..." address is not valid. Yes, that's correct. > If I have more issues with the web site I'll send you e-mail (though > the image on the contact page on your web site isn't loading). Or > should I post on the wiki somewhere, perhaps > <http://clc-wiki.net/wiki/Talk:Main_Page>? > Oh dear, technical problems abound this evening. The image loads from my home machine and from the clc-wiki server, so perhaps it was a temporary glitch and if you try again it will be fixed. If not, the "alt" attribute for that image describes how to construct my email address in words if you're willing to view the HTML source. Or you can edit <http://clc-wiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Laird>. Laird
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| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-04-08 19:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg3q3l$d5a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59728 |
Le 07/04/2015 07:44, jacobnavia a écrit : > I would like to add the document I prepared about the discussionstrtoll > etc here to the wiki. As administrator "Flash Gordon" is named but he > hasn't posted here for a long while. > > If anyone here has write rights in there please let me know how can I > update that stuff. > > Thanks. > > P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to rewrite > the standard library. It would be a first contribution since that > project pages are empty. OK, now it seems to work: http://www.clc-wiki.net/wiki/File:strtoll.pdf
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 04:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg3tib$fhl$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59835 |
On 09/04/15 03:57, jacobnavia wrote: > Le 07/04/2015 07:44, jacobnavia a écrit : >> I would like to add the document I prepared about the >> discussionstrtoll etc here to the wiki. As administrator "Flash >> Gordon" is named but he hasn't posted here for a long while. >> >> If anyone here has write rights in there please let me know how can >> I update that stuff. >> >> Thanks. >> >> P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to >> rewrite the standard library. It would be a first contribution >> since that project pages are empty. > > OK, now it seems to work: > http://www.clc-wiki.net/wiki/File:strtoll.pdf Glad the upload worked. I've added a link to it under [[C resources:Code and design]], but if you want it to be part of an attempt to rewrite the standard library, then perhaps a new top-level entry is needed in the hierarchy, perhaps below "C standard library", something like "C standard library (alt)" or "C standard library (ext)", depending on what your plans were for the rewrite. Do you have any thoughts on this? Laird
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| From | Laird <nospam@creativeandcritical.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 05:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mg3v2j$jk1$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59841 |
On 09/04/15 04:55, Laird wrote: > On 09/04/15 03:57, jacobnavia wrote: >> Le 07/04/2015 07:44, jacobnavia a écrit : >>> I would like to add the document I prepared about the >>> discussionstrtoll etc here to the wiki. As administrator "Flash >>> Gordon" is named but he hasn't posted here for a long while. >>> >>> If anyone here has write rights in there please let me know how >>> can I update that stuff. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> P.S. I would like to contribute to the project that wanted to >>> rewrite the standard library. It would be a first contribution >>> since that project pages are empty. >> >> OK, now it seems to work: >> http://www.clc-wiki.net/wiki/File:strtoll.pdf > > Glad the upload worked. I've added a link to it under [[C > resources:Code and design]], but if you want it to be part of an > attempt to rewrite the standard library, then perhaps a new top-level > entry is needed in the hierarchy, perhaps below "C standard library", > something like "C standard library (alt)" or "C standard library > (ext)", depending on what your plans were for the rewrite. Do you > have any thoughts on this? Apologies, Jacob, I didn't read carefully, I see that your code implements existing functions in the Standard, so it fits perfectly within the existing "C standard library:stdlib.h" section. I'll try to be more attentive in future. Laird
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