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  Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 09:00 -0700
    Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 09:46 -0700
    Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 09:59 -0700
    Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 11:02 -0700
      Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 17:52 -0700
        Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 07:30 -0700
          Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 03:36 -0700
            Re: Your eternal soul is at stake gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-10-23 11:43 +0000
    Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 23:25 +0800
      Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-23 17:38 +0200
        Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 23:49 +0800
          Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-23 21:51 +0100
            Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 12:55 +0800
            Re: Your eternal soul is at stake BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-25 10:29 +0100
              Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-25 11:26 +0100
                Re: Your eternal soul is at stake David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-10-25 12:47 +0200
                  Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-25 12:36 +0100
                Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 22:29 +0800
                  Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-25 16:54 +0200
          Re: Your eternal soul is at stake Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-23 19:28 -0400
            Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-23 16:33 -0700
              Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 12:52 +0800
                Re: Your eternal soul is at stake "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-24 22:35 -0700

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#95133 — Your eternal soul is at stake

Your eternal soul is at stake.  Your choices in this world determine where
you'll go for all eternity.

-----
You are a sinner.  You were born with original sin (spiritual death), and
you have since been fooled by Satan through your flesh to where you yourself
have committed many sins.

God is perfect and holy and righteous and He does not allow sin to dwell in
His presence.  There is one punishment for sin:  Death.  And for an eternal
being, the only way to have an eternal being die is to have an eternal place
of confinement, which is why Hell was created.

-----
The "good news" message (the "gospel" message) is that none of us need to go
there.  Even though we're all guilty, Jesus Christ has made a way out for us
to be saved.

You can have your sins forgiven, and you can enter in to eternal life.

This message is important.  If you have not already considered it, please do
so now, because you are not promised tomorrow.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95136

Christians beheadings, crucifixions.  Brave souls standing up for their
faith in outreach ministry to the very end:

    http://archbishopcranmer.com/christian-missionaries-aleppo-crucified-beheaded/

    "While we drink our Fair Trade coffee and pray for the recovery of our gay
     pride flags, our brothers and sisters in Christ are risking everything to
     share the gospel with those who are being lost. They suffer hell on earth
     to keep people out of hell for eternity. What experience of Jesus have
     they had which we do not? What God-consciousness do they possess which we
     have not? What inner life fires them to such certainty, peace and the
     assurance that to die is gain?"

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95137

Listen to the song's lyrics:

    Refining Fire - Michael Sykes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aOc-gzzU0g

    "I'm dying to myself 'cause that's what you require.
     I'll walk through your refining fire."

The Lord leads from within.  The drawing we have comes from the born again
nature, the spirit nature, and it is invisible on the inside, not from a
book, not from a list of rules, but a new nature placed atop the old man,
supplanting the old man with the new man.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95138

I'm the Clay:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspVv223YBA

     If you really are the gentle wind,
     let me feel your slightest whispered breath.
     If you are the smallest drop of rain,
     let me feel the moisture on my skin.
     If you are a silent soothing voice,
     let me hear your every single word.
     If you walk down Heaven's golden streets,
     let me sense your stirring in my heart.

     [chorus]

         You are the lover of my heart.
         I am the dear devoted child.
         You are the master of my mind.
         I am the captive meek and mild.
         You are the light to guide my feet.
         I am the pilgrim on His way.

         You say the word and I'll be there.
         You are the Model, I'm the clay.
         The clay.

     If I have to sell all that I own.
     If I have to give up all I have.
     If I have to open up my hands.
     If I have to wander the unknown.
     If I have to wait 10,000 years.
     If I have to suffer through the pain.
     All my joy will come from knowing You,
     the Hand that wipes away these tears.

     [chorus]

     Mmmmm-mmm-mmm.
     I'm the clay.
     Mmmmm-mmm-mmm.

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     http://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/64-8.htm
     8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou
       our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95139

I saw an amazing new series premiere tonight.  "The Encounter" on
PureFlix.  It's based on the 2010 movie of the same title, my
all-time favorite movie.  In the movie, Jesus reaches out to
save three people.  In the new series, He reaches out to
save the Earthly lives and eternal souls of some young men.

    2010 Movie:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGdurzFWPPA

    2016 Series Premiere:
    https://pureflix.com/subscriptions/new?media_id=787629635622

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95149

Why are some people believers, and some not?

    "We cannot convince a man to believe any
     more than we can raise the dead. Such
     things are the work of God's Spirit. Men are
     brought to faith only through the supernatural
     working of God, and He has promised to
     work-not through human wisdom or intellectual
     expertise, but through the preaching of Christ
     crucified and resurrected from the dead!"
     - Paul Washer

What did Jesus teach?

     http://biblehub.com/kjv/john/6-44.htm
     44 No man can come to me, except the Father which
        hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the
        last day.

-----
Only an inner change by God will enable you to come to know the
truth, to come to faith, to come to see your sin, to come to repent,
to come to Jesus, to ask forgiveness and be saved.

Only Jesus can save us.  And only those the Father draws will be
saved.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95158

Posted to comp.lang.c++ originally:

-----[ Begin ]-----
Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > The same could be said for you, Jacob, and many others. The
> > only difference is if you're right and I'm wrong nothing will happen.
> > But if I'm right and you're wrong (which I am), you will burn in the
> > flames of Hell forever.
> >
> > It's worth serious consideration, sir.
>
> What if it's you who is worshiping the wrong god, and it's you
> who ends up in hell forever?

I have investigated Jesus Christ.  I have tested Him and tried Him
and proved Him out.  He is solid, and completely foundational.  He
is God, and because of Him we have hope.

> Also, quite a loving god you have there. That's what we call a
> psychopath. What kind of loving father tells his children "either
> you love me, or I will lock you up in a torture cellar I built myself,
> and torture you there forever"?

You have it backwards.  Sin blinds you to that reality, and twists your
thinking so you see it that way.  Your thinking is actually evidence of
how much we need Him.

Sin destroys everything it touches.  It does nothing else.  Consider
the /one/ sin by Adam and Eve, and all the death, all the hate, all
the wars, all the killing, all the disease.  This is the place we live in
right now.  And if you examine your life closely, and compare your
daily actions to the call of God in the Bible (toward holiness), you
will conclude that nearly everything you believe and do today is full-
on sin.  You are damaged goods because of sin.  We all are.  We're
all broken and do nothing but evil when our acts, thoughts, and
deeds are set alongside a holy, holy, holy God.

If a member of our society today did nothing but evil, hurting
people everywhere he went, he would eventually land in prison
with a life sentence without the possibility of parole.  It's not
because we hate the person, but because all they are capable of
doing is harming others.  If they had been able to be reformed, or
converted in some way so they stopped doing evil, they might
have not wound up in prison for life.

Sin is a disease.  Once sin was committed by Adam and Eve, they
spiritually died.  The original nature they possessed had been
altered by the transgression, such that because they disobeyed God
willfully, and because the punishment of sin is death because sin
is so harmful and destructive, they died that very day, even though
in their flesh they lived many more years.

Sin is so destructive, God had to build a special kind of super prison
to contain it, the place called Hell.  There, the evil that is sin is kept
in check so that the worker of sin can no longer do harm to the
truly innocent in the rest of His Creation.

It's as the prisoner in prison for life.  If that prisoner gets along
with people, obeys the rules, even helps out, he may get decent treatment, a few freedoms, some liberties, but it
will all still be within the confines of the prison system.  But if he's
wicked, cruel to the other inmates, he'll be in lockdown, solitary
confinement, isolation, so that no one even sees him as food and
water are slipped through closed systems such that there is no
possible connection between him and the guards, let alone the
outside world.

God has established a system to contain sin appropriately.

Sin is so evil, so destructive, so heinous, so without any redeemable
quality, that not only must the prisoner be placed into prison,
into solitary confinement, secured with unbreakable chains, kept
in total isolation from the "outside world," but there must be an
ongoing occupier of the sinner's mind, being, and substance, to
prevent them from exerting influence on any other thing in God's
Creation.

We are powerful beings, Juha.  More powerful than angels.  God's
"security measures" take that into fullest consideration when
the extent to which isolation and mental occupation is required.

Remember ... one sin, and how much death?  Every animal.  Every
person.  Every child with cancer.  Every mother struck down in her
prime.  All the result of one sin.

God would've been justified in ending His Creation with Adam
and Eve.  To isolate them in prison (Hell), and be done with it.
But He would never have created you.  Or me.  Or the other billions
that were created.  All of them would've been lost too.

We are eternal beings, beautiful and powerful.  Sin has robbed us
of spiritual life and spiritual vision, so we don't see it.  But God
has not abandoned us.  He's watching each of us.  He's putting
things before our paths on life to see how we respond.  He's testing
us, not to discover what we'll do because He already knows, but
to provide a witness, the proof to us, to others, to the books being
written whereby we'll be judged.

He knows who will be saved, and who won't be.  And the precious
nature of those who are forgiven of sin, the redeemed, are why
He didn't end mankind with Adam and Eve.  Even from their
corrupt-with-sin seed are literally billions and billions saved, so
many they cannot be counted the Bible says.

God tries the reins of each person's heart.  And those whom He
wills, and those who seek the truth, He draws to His Son for
forgiveness.  Jesus still pays the full price of our sin in Hell, but
it is His gift to us to set us free from sin, and the eternal death
from sin.

> That's not a loving father. That's a psychopath. That kind of father
> wouldn't deserve love and worship, but extreme contempt
> and disgust.

He would be a psychopath if sin were not so pervasive and
destructive.  But perhaps now you can see it in an eternal blight,
recognizing what one sin by Adam and Eve caused, and how
much havoc one sin-loving being could wreak over eternity.

God is wholly justified in sending people and demons to Hell
because sin is that destructive.

The miracle and love of God is that He was willing to save any
of us, for we have all sinned and are guilty before Him.  That
He would still make a way out for us ... what an amazing gift.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
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#95159

In article <d9023dd3-0a27-45e7-860b-c67376a1b54f@googlegroups.com>,
Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>I have investigated Jesus Christ.  I have tested Him and tried Him
>and proved Him out.  He is solid, and completely foundational.  He
>is God, and because of Him we have hope.

More than a few screws loose.

>You have it backwards.  Sin blinds you to that reality, and twists your
>thinking so you see it that way.  Your thinking is actually evidence of
>how much we need Him.

Creepy Freakazoid.

>Sin destroys everything it touches.  It does nothing else.  Consider
>the /one/ sin by Adam and Eve, and all the death, all the hate, all
>the wars, all the killing, all the disease.  This is the place we live in
>right now.  And if you examine your life closely, and compare your
>daily actions to the call of God in the Bible (toward holiness), you
>will conclude that nearly everything you believe and do today is full-
>on sin.  You are damaged goods because of sin.  We all are.  We're
>all broken and do nothing but evil when our acts, thoughts, and
>deeds are set alongside a holy, holy, holy God.

NutJob.

>If a member of our society today did nothing but evil, hurting
>people everywhere he went, he would eventually land in prison
>with a life sentence without the possibility of parole.  It's not
>because we hate the person, but because all they are capable of
>doing is harming others.  If they had been able to be reformed, or
>converted in some way so they stopped doing evil, they might
>have not wound up in prison for life.

Somebody needs to get back on their meds...

>Sin is a disease.  Once sin was committed by Adam and Eve, they
>spiritually died.  The original nature they possessed had been
>altered by the transgression, such that because they disobeyed God
>willfully, and because the punishment of sin is death because sin
>is so harmful and destructive, they died that very day, even though
>in their flesh they lived many more years.

Loonball.

>Sin is so destructive, God had to build a special kind of super prison
>to contain it, the place called Hell.  There, the evil that is sin is kept
>in check so that the worker of sin can no longer do harm to the
>truly innocent in the rest of His Creation.

Screwball.

>It's as the prisoner in prison for life.  If that prisoner gets along with
>people, obeys the rules, even helps out, he may get decent treatment, a
>few freedoms, some liberties, but it will all still be within the confines
>of the prison system.  But if he's wicked, cruel to the other inmates,
>he'll be in lockdown, solitary confinement, isolation, so that no one even
>sees him as food and water are slipped through closed systems such that
>there is no possible connection between him and the guards, let alone the
>outside world.

Paranoid Freak.

>God has established a system to contain sin appropriately.

Goofball.

>Sin is so evil, so destructive, so heinous, so without any redeemable
>quality, that not only must the prisoner be placed into prison,
>into solitary confinement, secured with unbreakable chains, kept
>in total isolation from the "outside world," but there must be an
>ongoing occupier of the sinner's mind, being, and substance, to
>prevent them from exerting influence on any other thing in God's
>Creation.

Whacko.

>We are powerful beings, Juha.  More powerful than angels.  God's
>"security measures" take that into fullest consideration when
>the extent to which isolation and mental occupation is required.

Beyond hope.

>Remember ... one sin, and how much death?  Every animal.  Every
>person.  Every child with cancer.  Every mother struck down in her
>prime.  All the result of one sin.

Crackpot.

>God would've been justified in ending His Creation with Adam
>and Eve.  To isolate them in prison (Hell), and be done with it.
>But He would never have created you.  Or me.  Or the other billions
>that were created.  All of them would've been lost too.

Seriously deluded.

>We are eternal beings, beautiful and powerful.  Sin has robbed us
>of spiritual life and spiritual vision, so we don't see it.  But God
>has not abandoned us.  He's watching each of us.  He's putting
>things before our paths on life to see how we respond.  He's testing
>us, not to discover what we'll do because He already knows, but
>to provide a witness, the proof to us, to others, to the books being
>written whereby we'll be judged.

Make America Great Again.

>He knows who will be saved, and who won't be.  And the precious
>nature of those who are forgiven of sin, the redeemed, are why
>He didn't end mankind with Adam and Eve.  Even from their
>corrupt-with-sin seed are literally billions and billions saved, so
>many they cannot be counted the Bible says.

Weirdo.

>God tries the reins of each person's heart.  And those whom He
>wills, and those who seek the truth, He draws to His Son for
>forgiveness.  Jesus still pays the full price of our sin in Hell, but
>it is His gift to us to set us free from sin, and the eternal death
>from sin.

Crank.

>He would be a psychopath if sin were not so pervasive and
>destructive.  But perhaps now you can see it in an eternal blight,
>recognizing what one sin by Adam and Eve caused, and how
>much havoc one sin-loving being could wreak over eternity.

Off Topic.

>God is wholly justified in sending people and demons to Hell
>because sin is that destructive.

Make America Great Again.

>The miracle and love of God is that He was willing to save any
>of us, for we have all sinned and are guilty before Him.  That
>He would still make a way out for us ... what an amazing gift.

Goofball.

>Best regards,
>Rick C. Hodgin

Crank.

-- 
Rich people pay Fox people to convince middle class people to blame poor people.

	(John Fugelsang)

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#95172

On 10/22/2016 12:00 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Your eternal soul is at stake.  Your choices in this world determine where
> you'll go for all eternity.

Leave it to God... unless you are too evil? :)

Simple life does NOT need Holy Shine. C programming does NOT need 
religions. :)

Please remember: C is simple!

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#95174

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:25:28 +0800
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Please remember: C is simple!
> 
That is beauty of it. Simplicity!
Easy to learn, difficult to master ;)


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#95176

On 10/23/2016 11:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> That is beauty of it. Simplicity!
> Easy to learn, difficult to master ;)

But many schools and universities still wanna use Pascal to teach basic 
programming.

Why must the memory of Pascal language be seeded to students? Something 
to do with dark psychology? :)

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#95203

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:

> On 10/23/2016 11:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> That is beauty of it. Simplicity!
>> Easy to learn, difficult to master ;)
>
> But many schools and universities still wanna use Pascal to teach
> basic programming.

Really?  I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't know of any cases
where it is still used.

I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
(good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
used.  (I didn't much like doing it, but there was an up-side: a wide
range of very good, inexpensive, textbooks.)

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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#95258

On 10/24/2016 4:51 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
> (good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
> used.  (I didn't much like doing it, but there was an up-side: a wide
> range of very good, inexpensive, textbooks.)

Pascal might actually give actually less workload to lecturers and 
tutors because of strong data typing?

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#95267

On 23/10/2016 21:51, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 10/23/2016 11:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> That is beauty of it. Simplicity!
>>> Easy to learn, difficult to master ;)
>>
>> But many schools and universities still wanna use Pascal to teach
>> basic programming.
>
> Really?  I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't know of any cases
> where it is still used.
>
> I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
> (good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
> used.

What did they switch to after Pascal?

-- 
Bartc

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#95268

BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> On 23/10/2016 21:51, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
<snip>
>> I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
>> (good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
>> used.
>
> What did they switch to after Pascal?

"C with classes" as is was then called.

-- 
Ben.

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#95269

On 25/10/16 12:26, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> 
>> On 23/10/2016 21:51, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> <snip>
>>> I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
>>> (good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
>>> used.
>>
>> What did they switch to after Pascal?
> 
> "C with classes" as is was then called.
> 

When I was at university, we used whatever language the course lecturer
liked best.  For the most part, we were expected to just learn the
language as needed.  So the algorithm design class used Modula-2, the
operating systems design class used C, the parallel algorithms class
used Occam.  I think the only language we were actually taught was for
the early classes on programming from specifications (mathematically
deriving provably correct code), using a functional programming language
similar to Haskell.

Concentrating too much on a particular language at university is, I
think, a mistake - the emphasis should be on development processes,
software design, algorithms, etc., rather than the details of a
particular language.  If you teach the foundations properly then the
student can pick up the details of a new language in a very short time.

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#95270

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:

> On 25/10/16 12:26, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On 23/10/2016 21:51, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> I once taught programming using Pascal (at a university), but that was
>>>> (good grief!) three decades ago and it was the last year that Pascal was
>>>> used.
>>>
>>> What did they switch to after Pascal?
>> 
>> "C with classes" as is was then called.
>> 
>
> When I was at university, we used whatever language the course lecturer
> liked best.  For the most part, we were expected to just learn the
> language as needed.  So the algorithm design class used Modula-2, the
> operating systems design class used C, the parallel algorithms class
> used Occam.  I think the only language we were actually taught was for
> the early classes on programming from specifications (mathematically
> deriving provably correct code), using a functional programming language
> similar to Haskell.

Yes, the undergraduate courses were as you describe, but the course I'm
talking about was a rather special case that may no longer be available.
It was what was called a "conversion MSc" and lasted only one year.  It
was very intensive and had to get the students up to speed with
programming so they could tackle a project for their dissertation as
well as having a practical basis into which they could fit all the other
learning.

They saw a toy Pascal-like language in the compilers course, and they
learned some assembler in the architecture course, but there was not
enough time to cover several language paradigms in depth.

> Concentrating too much on a particular language at university is, I
> think, a mistake - the emphasis should be on development processes,
> software design, algorithms, etc., rather than the details of a
> particular language.  If you teach the foundations properly then the
> student can pick up the details of a new language in a very short
> time.

s/at university/in a 3-year degree/ and I agree.  We certainly hoped
that students would leave the MSc able to pick up alternative languages
easily, but it would always be harder than for the graduates of the BSc
courses.

-- 
Ben.

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#95274

On 10/25/2016 6:26 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
> "C with classes" as is was then called.
>

Did you forget that Pascal become Delphi? :)

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#95280

On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:29:34 +0800
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/25/2016 6:26 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> >
> > "C with classes" as is was then called.
> >  
> 
> Did you forget that Pascal become Delphi? :)
> 

Pascal is alive and well.

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#95214

On 10/23/2016 11:49 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 10/23/2016 11:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> That is beauty of it. Simplicity!
>> Easy to learn, difficult to master ;)
> 
> But many schools and universities still wanna use Pascal to teach basic
> programming.
> 
> Why must the memory of Pascal language be seeded to students? Something
> to do with dark psychology? :)
> 

Pascal is still a great learning language.  It forces the student into a
straight jacket and keeps him/her there.  Students learn structured
programming better this way, which allows them to write better code in
other languages.

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