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  What's the purpose of CAlive? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:05 -0800
    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-02 16:08 +0000
      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Jay Braun <lyngwyst@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:18 -0800
        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 09:00 -0800
    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:50 -0800
      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-11-05 14:36 +0100
        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 05:55 -0800
          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-11-06 11:57 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-06 11:20 +0000
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-06 11:45 +0000
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-06 12:03 +0000
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-06 13:34 +0000
                    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-06 14:35 +0000
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-11-06 15:43 +0100
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 07:05 -0800
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-06 15:15 +0000
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-06 08:34 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 00:24 -0800
        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-11-05 21:33 -0700
          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-11-06 11:54 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-11-06 12:01 +0000
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-11-06 14:11 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-10 16:17 +0000
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:24 -0800
        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:51 -0800
          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-18 01:18 +0000
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 21:06 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 02:34 -0800
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2015-11-18 03:36 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 04:02 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 06:14 -0800
                    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 06:18 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 19:07 +0000
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 11:14 -0800
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 11:27 -0800
      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 21:57 +0100
        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 13:06 -0800
          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-05 22:12 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-05 13:24 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 13:27 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-06 13:51 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 13:25 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-06 14:00 +0100
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 05:14 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-06 13:33 +0000
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-06 14:14 +0000
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 06:28 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 06:52 -0800
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-06 08:45 -0800
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-05 15:43 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 15:59 -0800
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:11 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:35 -0800
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:12 -0800
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-05 20:28 -0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 20:40 -0800
                    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-05 21:02 -0800
                      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 21:53 -0800
                        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 23:43 -0800
                          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 03:27 -0800
                    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-07 10:51 +1300
                      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 14:04 -0800
                      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-07 13:33 -0800
                        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 14:00 -0800
                          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:26 +1300
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 14:33 -0800
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 14:45 -0800
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 14:58 -0800
                              [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-08 14:05 +1300
                                Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 00:05 -0800
                                  Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-08 21:44 +1300
                                    Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-10 16:22 +0000
                                  Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-08 07:06 -0600
                                    Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-11-08 06:02 -0800
                                    Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 07:45 -0800
                                      Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 09:40 -0800
                                        Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 11:32 -0800
                                          Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:43 -0800
                                            Re: [way OT] Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-08 21:14 +0100
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-07 15:07 -0800
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 15:14 -0800
                                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-10 16:27 +0000
                                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:35 -0800
                                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-10 09:05 -0800
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-07 23:18 +0000
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-10 16:20 +0000
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:28 -0800
                        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-07 23:20 +0000
                          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 15:41 -0800
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-07 16:13 -0800
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 16:20 -0800
                              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 16:27 -0800
                                Bartenders? (Was: What's the purpose of CAlive?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-08 01:25 +0000
                                  Re: Bartenders? (Was: What's the purpose of CAlive?) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 17:54 -0800
                          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 16:01 -0800
                            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 16:05 -0800
                          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-07 16:08 -0800
                        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-11-08 09:59 +0800
                  Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-06 10:50 +0000
                    Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-06 10:54 +0000
                      Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 00:37 -0800
                        Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-07 10:00 +0000
          Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 15:01 +0100
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 08:12 -0600
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 19:29 +0100
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 09:33 +0100
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 01:47 -0800
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 06:20 -0800
            Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-06 16:24 +0000
              Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 19:41 +0100
                Re: What's the purpose of CAlive? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-10 16:31 +0000

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#75083

On Fri, 2015-11-06, Johannes Bauer wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 05:33, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>>> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
>>> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
>> 
>> I *really* hope you're being facetious.
...

> But in the 15+ years I'm active in Usenet I've never met someone who
> believes he was empowered by a god to improve the C language as his gift
> to humanity.

You need to spend either more or less time on Usenet ;-)

But seriously, let's not press those buttons on people. comp.lang.c++
got a lot less useful after religion flamewars the other year ...

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#75090

On 06/11/2015 11:54, Johannes Bauer wrote:

> But in the 15+ years I'm active in Usenet I've never met someone who
> believes he was empowered by a god to improve the C language as his gift
> to humanity. That's a tad bit too much for my taste.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS

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#75592

Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 06.11.2015 05:33, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> 
> >> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
> >> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
> > 
> > I *really* hope you're being facetious.
> 
> Sadly, not really.
> 
> I mean there's all sorts of crazy in Usenet. People who claim they can
> predict earthquakes, people who have found the definitive scheme to
> winning Roulette, etc.
> 
> But in the 15+ years I'm active in Usenet I've never met someone who
> believes he was empowered by a god to improve the C language as his gift
> to humanity. That's a tad bit too much for my taste.

Oh, trust me. If you think it's too much from a programming POV, you
don't half get how Molochian too much Rick is from a religious POV.

Richard

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#75595

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 5:54:52 AM UTC-5, Johannes Bauer wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 05:33, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> 
> >> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
> >> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
> > 
> > I *really* hope you're being facetious.
> 
> Sadly, not really.
> 
> I mean there's all sorts of crazy in Usenet. People who claim they can
> predict earthquakes, people who have found the definitive scheme to
> winning Roulette, etc.
> 
> But in the 15+ years I'm active in Usenet I've never met someone who
> believes he was empowered by a god to improve the C language as his gift
> to humanity.

It's not my only gift to humanity.  And my gift isn't explicitly to
improve the C language... that's just a side effect.  The true nature
of the gift is to build a tool that is founded upon a love for Jesus
Christ, and is an offering of that love, then given to mankind so
people can use it, and to then also have a model for how they can take
their love for Jesus Christ and apply it to the areas in which they
operate as well.

Here's a video which describes that.  The description content of
what I am doing as a Christian in this regard begins about 30:00
into the video:

    http://www.visual-freepro.org/videos/2012_12_08__01_vvmmc__and_vfrps_relationship_to_christianity.ogv

If you can't view it, use VLC (www.videolan.org).

> That's a tad bit too much for my taste.

It's an uncommon theme because there is an enemy at work in this world
which teaches people to do otherwise.  And that enemy not only teaches
people to do otherwise, he also places up barriers against people like
me who then turn toward Jesus Christ and suggest that there is this
other way to be, a way that gives honor and praise unto God, a way that
is that which God would have us do, and not a way which the enemy would
have us do.

-----
My efforts are not solely of my own ends, but are in teaching others to
also be this way, to use the unique and special skills, talents, and
interests they have to also serve God.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76314

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:36:48 AM UTC-6, Johannes Bauer wrote:
> On 02.11.2015 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> 
> > It aims
> > to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
> > the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.
> 
> I first thought this was an - admittedly, pretty funny - fake-post/troll.
> 
> Then I checked headers. It appears to be genuine.
> 
> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
> 

Eh.  There are far, *far* worse ways to witness.  At least this is somewhat
constructive.  And hey, Rick may wind up developing some cool technology
that provides a real benefit.  

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#76342

In article <ed2e0a01-7cdd-4ed8-8c6f-4b346eb5e8c9@googlegroups.com>,
John Bode  <jfbode1029@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:36:48 AM UTC-6, Johannes Bauer wrote:
>> On 02.11.2015 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> 
>> > It aims
>> > to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
>> > the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.
>> 
>> I first thought this was an - admittedly, pretty funny - fake-post/troll.
>> 
>> Then I checked headers. It appears to be genuine.
>> 
>> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
>> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
>> 
>
>Eh.  There are far, *far* worse ways to witness.  At least this is somewhat
>constructive.  And hey, Rick may wind up developing some cool technology
>that provides a real benefit.  

And pigs may fly...

-- 
A liberal, a moderate, and a conservative walk into a bar...

Bartender says, "Hi, Mitt!"

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#76355

I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.

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#76381

Chad wrote:
> I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.

Only by necessity (it's currently being developed, and isn't yet
complete).

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76387

On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:34:54 UTC, Rick C. Hodgin  wrote:
> Chad wrote:
> > I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.
> 
> Only by necessity (it's currently being developed, and isn't yet
> complete).

How about this? Instead of telling us what your magnificient new language/GUI/mousetrap will be, why don't you develop it and then show us what it is?

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#76390

> mark.b...@gmail.com
> > Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > Chad wrote:
> > > I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.
> > Only by necessity (it's currently being developed, and isn't yet
>> complete).
> How about this? Instead of telling us what your magnificient
> new language/GUI/mousetrap will be, why don't you develop
> it and then show us what it is?

It is a big job. I am reporting features to drum up interest, and
then asking for help to complete development.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76400

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 6:36:40 AM UTC-5, mark.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:34:54 UTC, Rick C. Hodgin  wrote:
> > Chad wrote:
> > > I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.
> > 
> > Only by necessity (it's currently being developed, and isn't yet
> > complete).
> 
> How about this? Instead of telling us what your magnificient new language/GUI/mousetrap will be, why don't you develop it and then show us what it is?

There are some aspects of it which are completed for another project.
You can download the GUI here and see its operation.  It works in 32-bit
and 64-bit Windows, and compiles in 32-bit and 64-bit Linux and Solaris,
but does not run because I'm still looking to complete development on my
Lin2win module:

    http://www.visual-freepro.org/vjr/indexmain.html
    Screenshot:  http://www.visual-freepro.org/images/vjr_057.png
    Download:  http://www.libsf.org/software/vjr_0.57.zip

    Lin2win:  https://github.com/RickCHodgin/libsf/tree/master/utils/common/cpp/linux

And if anyone is interested, I can take you through the RDC compiler
framework architecture design that's being developed, which will be
the way source code is processed through from raw text to binaries.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76401

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 9:14:16 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 6:36:40 AM UTC-5, mark.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:34:54 UTC, Rick C. Hodgin  wrote:
> > > Chad wrote:
> > > > I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.
> > > 
> > > Only by necessity (it's currently being developed, and isn't yet
> > > complete).
> > 
> > How about this? Instead of telling us what your magnificient new language/GUI/mousetrap will be, why don't you develop it and then show us what it is?
> 
> There are some aspects of it which are completed for another project.
> You can download the GUI here and see its operation.  It works in 32-bit
> and 64-bit Windows, and compiles in 32-bit and 64-bit Linux and Solaris,
> but does not run because I'm still looking to complete development on my
> Lin2win module:
> 
>     http://www.visual-freepro.org/vjr/indexmain.html
>     Screenshot:  http://www.visual-freepro.org/images/vjr_057.png
>     Download:  http://www.libsf.org/software/vjr_0.57.zip
> 
>     Lin2win:  https://github.com/RickCHodgin/libsf/tree/master/utils/common/cpp/linux
> 
> And if anyone is interested, I can take you through the RDC compiler
> framework architecture design that's being developed, which will be
> the way source code is processed through from raw text to binaries.
> 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin

Also, for those who download and run the GUI yet don't know XBASE, here
are some commands:

    http://www.visual-freepro.org/wiki/index.php/VXB

From the command window, type "quit" and press F6 to exit.  And you can
use the functions on that link, like this "? date()" and F6 to show the
date, "? left('rick', 2)" and F6 to show "ri".  If you're on the last
line of the command window you can also just type enter.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76444

Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.

I think Rick prefers the terms "faith based software", or "PrayerWare"
for short.

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#76446

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 2:08:00 PM UTC-5, gwowen wrote:
> Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> writes:
> > I'm getting the distinct impression that CAlive is vaporware.
> 
> I think Rick prefers the terms "faith based software", or "PrayerWare"
> for short.

I refer to CAlive as "my best offering unto the Lord for a low-level
computer programming language, one using the fullest resources and
assets I possess, those He first gave me."

It is one of several projects I have in mind:

    http://www.libsf.org/wiki

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#76541

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:18:16 PM UTC-6, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <ed2e0a01-7cdd-4ed8-8c6f-4b346eb5e8c9@googlegroups.com>,
> John Bode  <jfbode1029@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:36:48 AM UTC-6, Johannes Bauer wrote:
> >> On 02.11.2015 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> 
> >> > It aims
> >> > to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
> >> > the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.
> >> 
> >> I first thought this was an - admittedly, pretty funny - fake-post/troll.
> >> 
> >> Then I checked headers. It appears to be genuine.
> >> 
> >> I cannot express how shocked I am to find this level of delusion and
> >> crackpotness in a computer subgroup.
> >> 
> >
> >Eh.  There are far, *far* worse ways to witness.  At least this is somewhat
> >constructive.  And hey, Rick may wind up developing some cool technology
> >that provides a real benefit.  
> 
> And pigs may fly...
> 

Not claiming it's a *sure* bet.  

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#75017

On 2015-11-02 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:06:12 AM UTC-5, Chad wrote:
>> Is it supposed to fix the shortcomings in C?
>
> CAlive is my C-like language offering unto Jesus Christ, part of my vision
> for the Liberty Software Foundation, and Village Freedom Project.  It aims
> to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
> the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.

Hopefully it will not turn into a flying spaghetti monster like C++.


-- August

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#75018

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 3:57:51 PM UTC-5, August Karlstrom wrote:
> On 2015-11-02 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:06:12 AM UTC-5, Chad wrote:
> >> Is it supposed to fix the shortcomings in C?
> >
> > CAlive is my C-like language offering unto Jesus Christ, part of my vision
> > for the Liberty Software Foundation, and Village Freedom Project.  It aims
> > to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
> > the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.
> 
> Hopefully it will not turn into a flying spaghetti monster like C++.

Amen to that! :-)

-----
CAlive will add support for the basic class, exceptions, and some of
the relaxed syntax requirements, though it will keep C's weaker
pointer type checking (producing only warnings, not errors).

Those are my starting points.  If someone can make a great argument
as to why other C++ features should be added, I will consider it.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#75021

On 05/11/15 22:06, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 3:57:51 PM UTC-5, August Karlstrom wrote:
>> On 2015-11-02 17:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:06:12 AM UTC-5, Chad wrote:
>>>> Is it supposed to fix the shortcomings in C?
>>>
>>> CAlive is my C-like language offering unto Jesus Christ, part of my vision
>>> for the Liberty Software Foundation, and Village Freedom Project.  It aims
>>> to be a largely C-compatible language, but with some of the new features
>>> the Lord has given me insight to, and one built atop faith in Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Hopefully it will not turn into a flying spaghetti monster like C++.
>
> Amen to that! :-)
>
> -----
> CAlive will add support for the basic class, exceptions, and some of
> the relaxed syntax requirements, though it will keep C's weaker
> pointer type checking (producing only warnings, not errors).
>
> Those are my starting points.  If someone can make a great argument
> as to why other C++ features should be added, I will consider it.
>

Namespaces would be an obvious choice - they are pretty close to zero 
cost, and should not cause much confusion or complications for either 
the compiler writer or the compiler user.

Consider allowing const expressions to be used in more places.  C++ 
allows a "const int" (effectively a "static const int" by C++ rules) 
value to be used as the size of an array, for example, offering several 
advantages over the #define names typically used in C.

Have a look at Jacob's llc-win, and the extensions he has made to C. 
Some of them are closely related to C++ features, but like you he has 
tried to avoid the complexity of C++.  There may be ideas you can 
"borrow" from there.

Can I assume you don't want to include templates?

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#75022

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
> Consider allowing const expressions to be used in more places.  C++ 
> allows a "const int" (effectively a "static const int" by C++ rules) 
> value to be used as the size of an array, for example, offering several 
> advantages over the #define names typically used in C.

What C++ does is expand the set of expressions that are constant
expressions.  Specifically, if an integer object is defined with "const"
*and* its initializer is a constant expression, then the name of that
object is a constant expression.  (The words "const" and "constant"
despite their similarity, are quite different things; there's no such
thing as a "const expression".)

You can do a limited form of what C++ does in C by using an enum:

    const int answer = 42;
    /* `answer` is a constant expression in C++, but not in C. */
    
    enum { answer = 42 };
    /* `answer` is a constant expression of type int in C;
       in C++ it's a constant expression of an anonymous enum type */

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#75024

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-5, Keith Thompson wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> [...]
> > Consider allowing const expressions to be used in more places.  C++ 
> > allows a "const int" (effectively a "static const int" by C++ rules) 
> > value to be used as the size of an array, for example, offering several 
> > advantages over the #define names typically used in C.
> 
> What C++ does is expand the set of expressions that are constant
> expressions.  Specifically, if an integer object is defined with "const"
> *and* its initializer is a constant expression, then the name of that
> object is a constant expression.  (The words "const" and "constant"
> despite their similarity, are quite different things; there's no such
> thing as a "const expression".)
> 
> You can do a limited form of what C++ does in C by using an enum:
> 
>     const int answer = 42;
>     /* `answer` is a constant expression in C++, but not in C. */
>     
>     enum { answer = 42 };
>     /* `answer` is a constant expression of type int in C;
>        in C++ it's a constant expression of an anonymous enum type */

Keith, I'm almost positive you have me killfile'd, but I want you to
know that I respect your knowledge greatly.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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