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OT: Evolution disproven

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  OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 09:26 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-01 09:46 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 10:02 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:06 +0200
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 12:33 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 10:06 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:36 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:43 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 13:09 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 14:34 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 15:48 -0400
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-04 00:11 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-03 23:15 +0100
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-07-04 09:31 +0800
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-04 04:50 +0000
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 15:39 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 23:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:20 +0100
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:00 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:32 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 15:39 +0000
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 09:11 -0700
                See sig (Was: OT: Evolution disproven) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 17:48 +0000
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:53 -0400
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-06 18:44 -0700
          What is a troll? (Was: OT: Evolution disproven) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 15:43 +0000
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-01 10:43 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 10:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:01 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:04 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:08 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:13 +0200
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:36 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 21:05 +0200
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:38 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-01 11:44 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 21:49 +0100
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:09 +0100
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:20 +0100
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-07-02 02:34 +0800
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0100
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:40 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 13:58 -0500
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-02 23:44 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-02 16:07 -0600
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 17:12 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 17:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 18:56 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:12 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:00 -0400
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 14:15 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 21:30 +0100
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-01 19:30 -0400
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-02 00:25 +0200
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 15:36 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 01:27 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 02:58 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:16 +0100
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:13 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 17:53 +0100
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 10:21 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 12:49 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 12:51 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:04 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:20 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:04 -0400
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:08 -0700
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 19:30 -0700
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 08:55 +0200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 17:56 -0400
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-07 14:49 +1200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-07 04:38 +0100
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 09:19 +0200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 00:50 -0700
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-07 19:27 +1200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 19:05 -0400
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-10 18:14 +0200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-10 17:42 +0100
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 -0700
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 12:16 -0700
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 17:57 -0400
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:58 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 13:15 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:21 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-03 23:59 +0200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-04 00:10 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-01 15:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 08:54 +0100
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 16:45 -0400
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-06 22:06 +0100
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-06 22:09 +0000
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 05:43 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 16:18 +0200
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 07:22 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:11 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:42 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-05 17:45 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 02:03 -0800
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 03:40 -0800

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#89915

FromReal Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>
Date2016-07-01 19:03 +0100
Message-ID<nl6bbk$8bh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#89903
On 01/07/2016 17:26, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
>
>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin

Jesus!  This is very serious indeed.  I hope C programming survives 
otherwise we are all doomed!!!!!!!

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#89922

FromJohn Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-01 11:36 -0700
Message-ID<8559aa47-7d2a-4db1-ba30-66b53d9f4265@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89903
On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
> 
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
> 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin

Why did you post this to comp.lang.c instead of talk.origins (where it belongs)?  

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#89924

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-01 11:40 -0700
Message-ID<24140aee-5909-431d-b3b1-4ec59f496148@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89922
On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 2:36:32 PM UTC-4, John Bode wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> > false:
> > 
> >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Rick C. Hodgin
> 
> Why did you post this to comp.lang.c instead of talk.origins (where it belongs)?

It's a message of God revealing Himself before man through science.

We are called to into all the world and teach and make disciples.  God's
word is for all people, not just those in alt.religion.

I have interests in C, and hardware, so I posted it there.  Other people
will post things in other areas.  I do not have interests there, so you
won't find me there.  But where you do find me, you will see these kinds
of posts.

I am a software developer.  I care about the people in my life, even if
they do not care about me.  I have love for people, and for them knowing
the truth and being given the opportunity to hear the truth from me, with
me then also pointing them to the truth so they can confirm on their own.

Jesus Christ is real.  Sin is real.  Judgment on sin is real.  And Hell
is real.

Jesus came to meet us at the point of forgiveness, rather than judgment.
It's why we need Him.  All of us.  Not just those in alt.religion, or
in talk.origins.  But even those people in comp.lang.c, and comp.arch.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89926

FromMark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>
Date2016-07-01 13:58 -0500
Message-ID<mstorkamp-3DAD14.13580501072016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#89924
In article <24140aee-5909-431d-b3b1-4ec59f496148@googlegroups.com>,
 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We are called to into all the world and teach and make disciples.  God's
> word is for all people, not just those in alt.religion.
> 

Serious question. How many disciples do you think you've made with these 
postings? More than 0? I seriously doubt it. When someone acts like an 
ass, nobody wants to be like them.

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#89962

Fromjacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Date2016-07-02 23:44 +0200
Message-ID<nl9cj3$1r5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89926
Le 01/07/2016 à 20:58, Mark Storkamp a écrit :
> When someone acts like an
> ass, nobody wants to be like them.

he has no choice!

religious people ARE like that!

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#89964

FromJoe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date2016-07-02 16:07 -0600
Message-ID<1bbn2fy9r6.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>
In reply to#89962
jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:

> Le 01/07/2016 à 20:58, Mark Storkamp a écrit :
>> When someone acts like an
>> ass, nobody wants to be like them.
>
> he has no choice!
>
> religious people ARE like that!

Well, no.  His religious beliefs are unlikely to be stronger than mine
(if you'd like to come by St. Albert the Great Newman Parish in Las
Cruces tomorrow at 11, I'm second lector at mass), but I know better
than to try to push them in a technical venue like this.

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#89966

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2016-07-02 17:12 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-2A910E.17120102072016@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#89962
In article <nl9cj3$1r5$1@dont-email.me>, jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> 
wrote:

> Le 01/07/2016 à 20:58, Mark Storkamp a écrit :
> > When someone acts like an
> > ass, nobody wants to be like them.
> 
> he has no choice!
> 
> religious people ARE like that!

Most religious people have no problem with the fact of evolution nor the 
synthetic theories of evolution. Christian religious people believe there was 
divine initiation of some kind, but they're willing to be fuzzy enough on the 
details to work with nonchristians including atheists.

What has happenned is a few christian sects have fallen into the same trap that 
catholics did in the past and many moslems do today: the claim that the 
religious authority figures have the correct answer and therefore they must be 
accepted as authority figures.

The catholic church really didn't care if the earth went around the sun, or the 
sun around the earth, but the church had claimed the latter. The church decided 
that anyone, such as Galileo Galilei, who disagreed was traitor to the pope and 
church. Eventually that church was forced to admit by sheer weight of evidence 
that a lot of what it claimed was crap. It turned out the faithful really didn't 
care, and the pope remained the pope. The guy who proposed the Big Bang was a 
french catholic priest, LeMaitre.

So in the last century or so new sects have based their authority on their claim 
the bible is literally true, a claim rejected by catholics and many protestants. 
These sects think their temporal authority would undermined or overwhelmed by 
any admission such as Noah didn't actually happen as written, but was an old 
fable adapted to tell a religious point about the importance of law in human 
society. (Thus subverting many important religious teachings for inconsequential 
nonsense about whether Adam and Eve had navels.)

Many imans have accrued great power by convincing their sheep that the iman 
alone has the true answers that lead to paradise. They discourage their sheep 
from thinking for themselves. Obviously then democracy is their enemy because 
democracy works when people think for themselves and take responsibility for 
their decisions.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
If you assume the final scene is a dying delusion as Tom Cruise drowns below
the Louvre, then Edge of Tomorrow has a happy ending. Kill Tom repeat..

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#89967

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-02 17:24 -0700
Message-ID<f9edbff1-a5dc-466c-8967-788c618576ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89966
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:12:41 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:
> [snip]

Watch the videos, Siri Cruise.  They will correct your mistakes and
misconceptions about Christ, about Christianity, about creation, and
about yourself.

You can listen to the content by experts and see for yourself exactly
where the world teaches us incorrectly, and learn why (because there
is an active enemy who espouses any lie that can line up with our fallen
in sin flesh, and its failed reasoning abilities).  And also where the
world teaches even the church incorrectly about what to believe in with
regards to its own doctrine (because of the pervasiveness of influence
from the lies that enemy espouses, and how men seeking after the flesh
will follow flesh-based reason ahead of God's Holy Spirit and the
knowledge which comes from the spirit through the born again nature).

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deV99oPnKlI

There really is a complete and total dichotomy at work in this world.
Either you ARE born again and saved, or you ARE deceived and going to
Hell.  There is absolutely no middle ground.  And you, Siri Cruise, today,
are deceived and going to Hell.  It's up to you if it stays that way.
Jesus has done everything to save you, including sending men and women
like me into your life to point you to Him actively.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89968

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2016-07-02 18:56 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-6D4D98.18560802072016@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#89967
In article <f9edbff1-a5dc-466c-8967-788c618576ef@googlegroups.com>,
 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:12:41 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > [snip]
> 
> Watch the videos, Siri Cruise.  They will correct your mistakes and
> misconceptions about Christ, about Christianity, about creation, and
> about yourself.

Or I can chat with the pastor tomorrow. Genesis is metaphors and parables just 
like the Gospels. Your silliness about evolution blinds you to the much more 
important lessons about faith, law, personal responsibility, corrupt cities vs 
pastoral tribes and how to avoid corruption when transitionning to settled life, 
personal failings and their consequences, political power vs religious purity, 
and whether men should 'strive with El' = yisrael.

So on one hand we have stories about Jacob wrestling with something, Abraham 
arguing to save Sodom, Noah in a drunken despair, but we also have Abraham 
willing to kill Isaac and Noah willing to abandon the rest of the humanity. You 
can get in a pointless argument whether those actually happenned, or ask the 
more important question: does the god of Israel want humans to stand up to him?

Also Jesus said no greater love than give up your life for another, but when you 
are absolutely certain that death, no matter how unpleasant, will be temporary 
and followed by unkillable in paradise, is that really giving up your life for 
another?

Or when you combine Jesus with Genesis, is the real point that anyone who is 
saved is expected stand up to their god, risking death eternal, to defend the 
rest of humanity, demanding that all people receive forgiveness regardless of 
whether they deserve it?

And, no, I don't know. But I think that's a far more important question than 
whether Adam and Eve had navels.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
If you assume the final scene is a dying delusion as Tom Cruise drowns below
the Louvre, then Edge of Tomorrow has a happy ending. Kill Tom repeat..

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#89969

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-02 19:12 -0700
Message-ID<fef90395-59d7-4b53-8e53-8efcc03cc3ab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89968
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:56:31 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <f9edbff1-a5dc-466c-8967-788c618576ef@googlegroups.com>,
>  "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:12:41 PM UTC-4, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > 
> > Watch the videos, Siri Cruise.  They will correct your mistakes and
> > misconceptions about Christ, about Christianity, about creation, and
> > about yourself.
> 
> Or I can chat with the pastor tomorrow. Genesis is metaphors and parables just 
> like the Gospels. Your silliness about evolution blinds you to the much more 
> important lessons about faith, law, personal responsibility, corrupt cities vs 
> pastoral tribes and how to avoid corruption when transitionning to settled life, 
> personal failings and their consequences, political power vs religious purity, 
> and whether men should 'strive with El' = yisrael.
> 
> So on one hand we have stories about Jacob wrestling with something, Abraham 
> arguing to save Sodom, Noah in a drunken despair, but we also have Abraham 
> willing to kill Isaac and Noah willing to abandon the rest of the humanity. You 
> can get in a pointless argument whether those actually happenned, or ask the 
> more important question: does the god of Israel want humans to stand up to him?
> 
> Also Jesus said no greater love than give up your life for another, but when you 
> are absolutely certain that death, no matter how unpleasant, will be temporary 
> and followed by unkillable in paradise, is that really giving up your life for 
> another?
> 
> Or when you combine Jesus with Genesis, is the real point that anyone who is 
> saved is expected stand up to their god, risking death eternal, to defend the 
> rest of humanity, demanding that all people receive forgiveness regardless of 
> whether they deserve it?
> 
> And, no, I don't know. But I think that's a far more important question than 
> whether Adam and Eve had navels.

I can answer you on all points, Siri, but you will only summarily dismiss what
I say because it's easier to do that and remain where you are than it is to
pursue the truth to its own end.

I would advise you to watch the videos so you can hear from people who aren't
me these things I'm teaching you.  You will see that my voice is not alone,
and that there really is a purpose to our creation.  And you will learn that
the story of Genesis is literal, and that the things the Bible teaches all
have value not just as metaphors or allegories, but as real historical
stories from real people who did real things for real reasons, which also
for us today teach us about how the things we encounter spiritually happen,
because we can see the events transpire in the natural, but we can't see
them transpire in the spiritual, but the two are quite similar, and there
is much to learn from the natural when then facing the spiritual.

Watch the videos, and every question and false thinking you have will be
answered in these areas.  God really did convey real things to us for real
reasons.  It is only the enemy who says false things about God/truth, who
denies God's purpose in the things He's done, as by alternative explanations.

Only God leads you rightly.  Genesis is a literal account, and the Earth is
only about 6,000 years old.  And our time on this planet is about up because
Jesus is returning soon.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#90098

FromKen Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net>
Date2016-07-06 17:00 -0400
Message-ID<nljrhl$tr0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89968
On 7/2/2016 9:56 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
[...]
> And, no, I don't know. But I think that's a far more important question than
> whether Adam and Eve had navels.

My father was a physician.  He once had a patient ask him, in all 
seriousness, to explain how come men have one less rib than women if the 
story of Adam and Eve wasn't true.

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#90101

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-06 14:15 -0700
Message-ID<329339c6-cda3-48e2-9ffd-343df8692d0d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#90098
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:00:48 PM UTC-4, Ken Brody wrote:
> My father was a physician.  He once had a patient ask him, in all 
> seriousness, to explain how come men have one less rib than women if the 
> story of Adam and Eve wasn't true.

I'm sorry you've had this experience, Ken.  It will make it more easy for
the enemy to convince you of his lie that you don't need Jesus Christ as
Savior and Lord.  That enemy's attack against you and your family makes
it more difficult for you to come to the truth.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89934

FromReal Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>
Date2016-07-01 21:30 +0100
Message-ID<nl6k08$lqm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#89922
On 01/07/2016 19:36, John Bode wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
>> false:
>>
>>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rick C. Hodgin
> Why did you post this to comp.lang.c instead of talk.origins (where it belongs)?

Because God told him to.


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#89942

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2016-07-01 19:30 -0400
Message-ID<nl6uf9$jpn$2@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#89922
On 7/1/2016 2:36 PM, John Bode wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
>> false:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rick C. Hodgin
> 
> Why did you post this to comp.lang.c instead of talk.origins (where it belongs)?  
> 

The Devil made him do it!

-- 
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#89937

Fromjacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Date2016-07-02 00:25 +0200
Message-ID<nl6qkb$9h0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89903
Le 01/07/2016 à 18:26, Rick C. Hodgin a écrit :
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin
>

Of course evolution is impossible. YOU are a living proof of that fact.

Arguments?

Facts?

You just go on selling vaporware. In your last post about your CAlive 
language, I told you that you are announcing that wonderful compiler 
that will do such marvelous things and that nobody has ever seen but...

since years that we hear about it (and its associated assembler, 
whatever) and still nothing visible. We will have to wait more than two 
thousand years of course!

I told you in that thread that that compiler is vaporware: programs that 
are incredibly good, wonderful and will change the world but nobody has 
ever seen...

You did not answer to that message and you started this thread, since 
actually, the other "technical" threads that you start are just a 
coverup for your religious activities here.

Religious people are constantly lying. They can't evolve, fixed in their 
absurd beliefs without any hope of redemption.

Contrary to them, I belive that everyone is free, and free also to 
choose lies and gods as a guide. I think Mr Hodgin is a good poster 
here: he teach us how bad religion can become every day with every post.

He will repeat his stored message without any regard for others or for 
the subject of this newsgroup, always the same god, always the same 
empty words, just like his "compiler project" lie.

There is no CAlive, no god nor any angel, demon or whatever is written 
in all those sacred books. JUST LIES!

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#89938

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-01 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<8168c3e2-f239-4cf0-86a2-52b03ac3fb93@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89937
jacobnavia wrote:
> [snip]

I love you, Jacob.  I wish you the best in life.  When I looked at
lcc, I was impressed.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89970

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-07-03 01:27 -0700
Message-ID<nlai9r$5pp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89938
On 7/1/2016 3:36 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> jacobnavia wrote:
>> [snip]
>
> I love you, Jacob.  I wish you the best in life.  When I looked at
> lcc, I was impressed.

I hope you are not one of these type of morons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDvPeWjBuY&feature=youtu.be&t=3222

How old is the earth? ;^o

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#89971

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-03 02:58 -0700
Message-ID<3cd0f6eb-c400-4e12-9fb1-dbe836ab6c68@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89970
Christians everywhere care about people, and are in the same
boat as this 1800s preacher... we teach others the truth, and we
are mocked and scorned because of it (due to the pervasiveness
of sin, and the inability of dead flesh to discern and know living spirit):

    "If sinners be damned, at least let them leap
     to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they
     perish, let them perish with our arms
     wrapped about their knees, imploring them
     to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled
     in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one
     go unwarned and unprayed for."

    C.H. Spurgeon

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89972

FromGareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-03 12:16 +0100
Message-ID<87h9c7q8d7.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#89971
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes:

> Christians everywhere care about people

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/california-pastor-celebrates-massacre-orlando-gay-club-article-1.2673335

> we teach others the truth..

Uh-huh "The tragedy is that more of them didn’t die"

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#89973

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-03 06:13 -0700
Message-ID<457b8593-8a0e-43b9-b9e3-7385d192dfb9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#89972
gwowen wrote:
> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
> > Christians everywhere care about people
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/california-pastor-celebrates-massacre-orlando-gay-club-article-1.2673335
>
> > we teach others the truth..
>
> Uh-huh "The tragedy is that more of them didn’t die"

I saw that preacher broadcast on a mainstream news program.
You're seeing the enemy portraying something by name which
is a false representation of the real thing so as to make it offensive
and obscene, so that people can take a cursory glance at "Christians"
or "Christianity" and conclude:  evil.  And turn away from it.

It's a ploy to trick those who will only look at the surface, and who
won't pursue the truth with a real, full effort.  But for those who
will pursue the truth, it will be known to them, and they will know
the heart of God takes no pleasure in men winding up in Hell.
They will see the death of Jesus on the cross while we were yet
sinners, still guilty, doing bad things, and they will see how men
and women like me have been changed and witness the true love
of Christ, even though our representation is inadequate because
we still wrestle with our sinful nature being tugged at by the vast
number of sinful draws and pulls in this world.

Did deep.  Seek the whole truth.  Uncover the lies of the enemy,
and be set free from his deception, and from sin.

Jesus alone makes it possible, because only Jesus Christ can take
our sin away and give us the born again spirit nature, which then
completely supplants the old man, so that we are literally brand
new creations, alive forevermore, but still remaining here for a time.

The enemy uses whatever he can to fool people, to deceive them.  All
of it is to keep them from coming to Jesus Christ.  But for the
truth-seeker, that person is known to God, and God supernaturally
reaches into their life abd brings about the changes required for
the new birth.

No other way.  Jesus Christ alone and only makes it possible,
which is why the enemy seeks in so many ways to discredit Him by
making those who are not born again, yet call themselves by the
name "Christian," do heinous things.

It's easy to be deceived, but the truth-seeker will not be deceived
for long.  God knows he/she seeks the truth, and He will lead them
to it supernaturally.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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