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  OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 09:26 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-01 09:46 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 10:02 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:06 +0200
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 12:33 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 10:06 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:36 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:43 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 13:09 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 14:34 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 15:48 -0400
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-04 00:11 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-03 23:15 +0100
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-07-04 09:31 +0800
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-04 04:50 +0000
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 15:39 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 23:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:20 +0100
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:00 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:32 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 15:39 +0000
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 09:11 -0700
                See sig (Was: OT: Evolution disproven) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 17:48 +0000
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:53 -0400
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-06 18:44 -0700
          What is a troll? (Was: OT: Evolution disproven) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-05 15:43 +0000
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-07-01 10:43 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 10:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:01 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:04 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:08 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 20:13 +0200
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:36 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-07-01 21:05 +0200
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:38 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-07-01 11:44 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 21:49 +0100
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:09 +0100
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:20 +0100
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-07-02 02:34 +0800
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0100
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:40 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 13:58 -0500
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-02 23:44 +0200
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-07-02 16:07 -0600
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 17:12 -0700
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 17:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 18:56 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:12 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:00 -0400
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 14:15 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-01 21:30 +0100
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-01 19:30 -0400
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-02 00:25 +0200
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 15:36 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 01:27 -0700
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 02:58 -0700
            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:16 +0100
              Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:13 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 17:53 +0100
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 10:21 -0700
                Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 12:49 -0700
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 12:51 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:04 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:20 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 17:04 -0400
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:08 -0700
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 19:30 -0700
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 08:55 +0200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 17:56 -0400
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-07 14:49 +1200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-07 04:38 +0100
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 09:19 +0200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 00:50 -0700
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-07 19:27 +1200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 19:05 -0400
                          Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-10 18:14 +0200
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-10 17:42 +0100
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 -0700
                            Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 12:16 -0700
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-11 17:57 -0400
                  Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:58 -0700
                    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-03 13:15 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:21 -0700
                      Re: OT: Evolution disproven jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-07-03 23:59 +0200
                        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-04 00:10 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-01 15:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 08:54 +0100
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2016-07-06 16:45 -0400
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-07-06 22:06 +0100
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-07-06 22:09 +0000
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 05:43 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-07 16:18 +0200
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 07:22 -0700
    Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:11 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:42 -0700
      Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-05 17:45 -0700
        Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 02:03 -0800
          Re: OT: Evolution disproven "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 03:40 -0800

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#90182

jacobnavia wrote:
> Evolution is possible and happening all the time. And that
> contradicts all other stories... like the one in that bible.

Jacob, it really isn't.  It's being purported that way, but that's
not what's really happening.

I urge you to honestly search the matter out.  You'll find that
what's reported popularly does not actually hold up to scrutiny.

I urge you to search the matter out.  You'll come to truth if you
do, and the truth will make you free.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#90239

On 7/6/2016 10:49 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 07/ 7/16 09:04 AM, Ken Brody wrote:
[...]
>> Perhaps this particular universe is 6000 years old, but $DIETY created (and
>> perhaps destroyed) countless universes before this one?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Or maybe $DIETY's $DIETY created (and perhaps destroyed) countless $DIETYs
> before this one?
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist...

An infinite regression on "who created $DEITY"?

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#89981

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:49:40 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 7/3/2016 6:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [...]
> > It's a ploy to trick those who will only look at the surface, and who
> > won't pursue the truth with a real, full effort.
> [...]
> 
> If one digs below the surface to find the truth, one will find that the 
> earth is more than 5000 years old.

It's about 6,000 years old.  To the Lord one day is as a thousand years,
and a thousand years is as a day.  In six days He created the Earth,
which is 6,000 years.  On the seventh day He rested, which is His 1,000
year upcoming millennial reign.

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/2_peter/3-8.htm
    http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-6.htm

The end of all sin occurs after the 1,000 year reign:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-7.htm
    http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-10.htm
    http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-15.htm

This then begins the eighth day, which is a perpetual day, which is seen
in symbolism from the Jewish traditional of circumcision on the eighth
day, whereby the excess flesh is removed and the everlasting covenant with
God begins.

Do you see how God has foreshadowed what's coming with what has been?  Do
you see how God has assembled it all together?  Why He made them male and
female, symbolic of us being married to Him in eternity.

Read what it says here, an open invitation for all who will come to Him.
It says "the spirit and the bride say 'Come'" ... that's His Holy Spirit,
and the bride of Christ, which is the true church:

    http://biblehub.com/revelation/22-17.htm
    "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say,
     Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him
     take the water of life freely."

He calls out to all people.  He, living inside of us, calls out to all
people through us.  And just as there was one door into the Ark Noah
built, one way to be saved, so it is in Jesus Christ.  One door only:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/john/10-9.htm
    "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall
     go in and out, and find pasture."

Time is almost up.  Board the ark.  His name is Jesus Christ, and there is
room for everyone who will come at the cross.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89983

On 7/3/2016 12:58 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:49:40 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 7/3/2016 6:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> [...]
>>> It's a ploy to trick those who will only look at the surface, and who
>>> won't pursue the truth with a real, full effort.
>> [...]
>>
>> If one digs below the surface to find the truth, one will find that the
>> earth is more than 5000 years old.
>
> It's about 6,000 years old.  To the Lord one day is as a thousand years,
> and a thousand years is as a day.  In six days He created the Earth,
> which is 6,000 years.  On the seventh day He rested, which is His 1,000
> year upcoming millennial reign.
[...]

NO! If you take that logic than one day with God is a 1000 years on 
earth. So, your 6000 years is that times a 1000, so:

The earth was created in 6,000,000 years according to the apparent time 
differential wrt God and us beings here in the physical realm wrt the 
bible. Almost like God is in a black hole or something. This is 
kookville, but I still find it moderately interesting. :^)

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#89985

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 4:15:57 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 7/3/2016 12:58 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:49:40 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 7/3/2016 6:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> It's a ploy to trick those who will only look at the surface, and who
> >>> won't pursue the truth with a real, full effort.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> If one digs below the surface to find the truth, one will find that the
> >> earth is more than 5000 years old.
> >
> > It's about 6,000 years old.  To the Lord one day is as a thousand years,
> > and a thousand years is as a day.  In six days He created the Earth,
> > which is 6,000 years.  On the seventh day He rested, which is His 1,000
> > year upcoming millennial reign.
> [...]
> 
> NO! If you take that logic than one day with God is a 1000 years on 
> earth. So, your 6000 years is that times a 1000, so:
> 
> The earth was created in 6,000,000 years according to the apparent time 
> differential wrt God and us beings here in the physical realm wrt the 
> bible. Almost like God is in a black hole or something. This is 
> kookville, but I still find it moderately interesting. :^)

Man's reasoning, Chris.  You are not seeking the truth.  You're standing
upon your assertions and then trying to make God fit into the box you've
constructed.  You're not searching for the truth.

I can't take you or anybody through the door, Chris.  I can only only
bring you to the door.  You must walk through it.  It's the same for all
people, because it is personal for each of us.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#89990

Le 03/07/2016 à 22:15, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :

> The earth was created in 6,000,000 years according to the apparent time
> differential wrt God and us beings here in the physical realm wrt the
> bible.

The earth formed around 4.5 Giga-years ago. The solar system is around 5 
Giga-years. 6 million years is  relatively recently in geological 
theory. For instance dinos disappeared around 60 million years ago.

Religious people are not what you wpuld say 'up to date' isn't it?

And so they arrive at:

> Almost like God is in a black hole or something.

Yeah. Whatever... just throw some babble.

> This is
> kookville,

exactly!

but I still find it moderately interesting. :^)

Me too. Observing religious people emit their nonsense is like hearing 
the noise of that NCIS series on TV, or skimming about the noise of the 
euro football competition when you pass near a pub these days.

The silent noise of ignorance, gullibility and ego: religion.

Be that religion foot, god, or whatever.

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#89999

On 7/3/2016 2:59 PM, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 03/07/2016 à 22:15, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
>
>> The earth was created in 6,000,000 years according to the apparent time
>> differential wrt God and us beings here in the physical realm wrt the
>> bible.
>
> The earth formed around 4.5 Giga-years ago. The solar system is around 5
> Giga-years. 6 million years is  relatively recently in geological
> theory. For instance dinos disappeared around 60 million years ago.

Oh my... You and your "sicency" facts. Bah. Science does not exist...

Ahhh crap... I went off into the land of Rick.

Funny how the morons really do seem to think that the earth is so damn 
young. 6 million year is a drop in the ocean wrt geologic time.

Humm... Let me guess... Rick probably thinks that the earth is the only 
planet with intelligent life as well. AFAICT, these types of nuts never 
come out of the damn shell!

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#89939

On 7/1/2016 3:25 PM, jacobnavia wrote:
> Le 01/07/2016 à 18:26, Rick C. Hodgin a écrit :
>> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be
>> categorically
>> false:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rick C. Hodgin
>>
>
> Of course evolution is impossible. YOU are a living proof of that fact.
[...]

That's pretty hardcore man!  :^o

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#89948

Don't hold back Jacob, tell him what you really think :)

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#90097

On 7/1/2016 12:26 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[elided]

Not sure why I'm bothering to reply, but...

Why not search for "Ray Comfort banana" videos to see how someone's "proof 
of an intelligent designer" is really just proving that evolution happens.

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#90100

On 06/07/2016 21:45, Ken Brody wrote:
>
> Not sure why I'm bothering to reply, but...
>
>

It could be because you are jobless and nothing better to do at the 
present time.

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#90103

In article <nljruq$1de6$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Real Troll  <real.troll@trolls.com> wrote:
>On 06/07/2016 21:45, Ken Brody wrote:
>>
>> Not sure why I'm bothering to reply, but...
>>
>>
>
>It could be because you are jobless and nothing better to do at the 
>present time.

Isn't that everybody in this newsgroup?

-- 
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#90113

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:26:50 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
> 
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow

To sum up what genetic researchers are finding:  There is too much
information in DNA to have come about randomly by chance.  These include
alphabets, languages, encoding and decoding mechanisms, even dual-encoding
and dual-decoding mechanisms, which relate back to a transmission process
of data from its encoding in DNA, to its utilization in the protein machines
created by that DNA.

You can see this aspect summed up here, along with the multitude of tiny
protein machines required in every cell to make it all happen:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vBqYDBW5s&t=11m6s

Information does not come about randomly from un-directed sources.  This
one point alone categorically disproves molecules-to-man evolution, because
the information required to bring it together cannot happen naturally no
matter how much time is given it.

-----
For the components people would ascribe to evolution, such as a form
adapting to changing environment over time, that also is not evolution,
but is rather an expression of the variability that was programmed into
the DNA by its designer.  There are no aspects of adaptation that will
occur which were not already programmed into the DNA, and within the
allowance of change within its design.  An existing lifeform or creature
will not take on new characteristics that were not already allowed for,
and given to it, within those abilities.

It is not chance, but design.  It is not evolution, but a recognition of
the environment the designer created them to be in, and the provision
encoded within their DNA to allow for the adaptation.

-----
You see, God originally created master forms which were of a kind (dog
kind, cat kind, people kind).  Those first creations had programmed into
them, by God, on purpose, all of the genetic variability which would later
express itself and diversify out unto all of the forms seen within their
kind.  Tall people, short people, black hair, red hair, blue eyes, green
eyes, and so on... all of it existed in the fist creation by God, and then
later was diversified out through the diversification mechanisms God gave
them, so they would become all of their various forms.

It is the process of selection which diversifies the information already
there in the DNA, coupled with some things in the environment (the same
DNA can ultimately express slightly differently based on available food
sources, temperature differences, and so on, and there are mechanisms
designed into the protein machines at work which can also adapt, such
as adapting to seasons and being able to stay warm in winter and cool
in summer through body changes).

None of these came about by accident, or chance, or evolution.  They are
all part of the design God gave them, and it is only the enemy who is
ascribing God's work to another source because that enemy does not want
you to come to know God, to receive Jesus Christ, and to be saved from
the punishment of sin.

-----
You are fearfully and wonderfully made:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/139-14.htm

Even the hairs on your head are numbered:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/10-30.htm

Our bodies here on this Earth are temporary, and will wear out, but when
we leave this world we will receive bodies like those of the angels.
These will carry with us either into Heaven and the paradise of God, or
into Hell where they will endure flames forever:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/philippians/3-21.htm
    http://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/51-6.htm

God is isolating sin in Hell.  He has made a way out for everybody so
that not a single person anywhere need go there, but only those who
embrace sin ahead of truth will go there:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/11-28.htm
    28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will
       give you rest.
    29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly
       in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
    30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

-----
The more scientists study the things of the universe, the more they reveal
God:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/19-1.htm
    "...The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth
     his handywork."

He is all around you.  Look in any direction and you will find Him.  And
where you find something that is not as it should be (disease, hate, war,
death), know that what you see is the result of sin, and not God or of
God's creation.  Sin is that destructive, which is why God is locking it
away completely, in Hell, forever.

Sin is the enemy, and Jesus is the 100% complete cure.  He restores us
to righteousness, restores us to eternal life, and gives us the keys to
the universe as we are married to Him in eternity, the eternal form of
that which we have here on Earth in symbolism with our Earthly marriage
between a man and a woman.  We will be joint-heirs with Christ (all He
has He gives to us, and all we have we give to Him, as with marriage
today):

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/romans/8-17.htm
    "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with
     Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also
     glorified together."

God has worked out an amazing plan of salvation for people, and is giving
us an amazing future of eternal life.  We will shine like the stars
forever ... :

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/12-3.htm

... even as we shine now here in this corrupt world, shining His light
of love and truth and life into the darkness:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/philippians/2-15.htm

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#90114

On 07/07/16 14:43, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:26:50 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
>> false:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
> 
> To sum up what genetic researchers are finding:

<snip nonsense>

Please, stick to topics you understand (and ideally, since this is
c.l.c., stick to topics that are at least vaguely related to C).  You
don't understand evolution, genetics, molecular biology, or chemistry.
You watch videos made by religious fanatics who also totally and
completely fail to understand these topics - because they have not the
slightest interest or motivation to understand them.  They are only
interested in finding ways to misinterpret things as "proof" of their
claims.  You would be well advised to learn from a range of unbiased
sources before discussing them.

If I believed in a creator god, I would be far more impressed with one
that was able to produce an elegant and flexible biological system based
on an impressively minimalistic system (four "letters" of DNA, 20
"letters" for proteins, and the basic sugar + oxygen <-> water + CO2
cycle), than a god that was so limited in abilities and imagination that
he had to micromanage down to the level of putting together every
lifeform individually.  If the reality of abiogenesis and unguided
evolution does not fit with your beliefs, then a god that created the
first lifeforms then guided evolution towards his goals (it's just
selective breeding on a larger scale) over a period of 4.5G years would
be worthy of a lot more admiration than one that had to do everything
manually with a view to a mere few thousand years.

Enough off-topic chatter from me in this thread.  My apologies to those
that don't like my drop in the ocean here - I am merely a fallible
human, and cannot always resist temptation.

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#90115

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:18:16 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> [snip]

God created all things in a literal six day period of time, David.  That
is the truth.  It is the enemy of God who teaches otherwise, and it is
those who believe the enemy's lies ahead of God who believe otherwise.

God knows who are His, and every one who is His will be saved.  The rest
will perish.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95881

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:26:50 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> false:
> 
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow

A newly discovered rotary engine inside the human body.  It generates ATP
that every cell needs and uses for energy:

    ATP Synthase
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI8m6o0gXDY

This one exists atop the already known bacterial flagellum "outboard engine"
that spins up to 100,000 RPM:

    Bacterial Flagellum
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N09BIEzDlI

These are biochemical machines designed for these purposes.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95883

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 7:11:34 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:26:50 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
> > false:
> > 
> >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
> 
> A newly discovered rotary engine inside the human body.  It generates ATP
> that every cell needs and uses for energy:
> 
>     ATP Synthase
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI8m6o0gXDY
> 
> This one exists atop the already known bacterial flagellum "outboard engine"
> that spins up to 100,000 RPM:
> 
>     Bacterial Flagellum
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N09BIEzDlI

Also here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRF0HeG-mhM&t=1m26s

> These are biochemical machines designed for these purposes.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95892

On 11/5/2016 4:11 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:26:50 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> When held up to scientific scrutiny, evolution is shown to be categorically
>> false:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9XYU_cvow
>
> A newly discovered rotary engine inside the human body.  It generates ATP
> that every cell needs and uses for energy:
>
>     ATP Synthase
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI8m6o0gXDY
>
> This one exists atop the already known bacterial flagellum "outboard engine"
> that spins up to 100,000 RPM:
>
>     Bacterial Flagellum
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N09BIEzDlI
>
> These are biochemical machines designed for these purposes.

FWIW, here is a little rendering I created using gravitational field 
lines that creates a kind of natural looking piece of wood, complete 
with knots:

https://plus.google.com/101799841244447089430/posts/3xgCNxWsVAo

The program is a kind of machine. I wonder if everything in nature is 
created with iterated function systems. The question is, what created 
these programs!

;^)

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#95911

Gears for synchronized motion of the hind legs.  Certainly not by chance:

    http://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/picture-of-the-week-planthopper-gears/

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#95916

DNA replication.  Molecular machines making copies of the original
strand of DNA.  Packaging mechanisms to keep the strand untangled,
and to allow ordered access.

Tiny machines, thousands of them, in every cell making your complex
life possible ... and that doesn't include the second and third layers
of design, such as physical arrangement of organs, their specialized
purposes, and the invisible qualities like thought, and the programming
of emotions, conjecture, laughter, sadness, and so on:

    TED - Animations of unseen biology
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU

Certainly not by chance.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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