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Re: Resources to learn common lisp?

Started byJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
First post2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
Last post2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
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  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
            Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
                  kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
                    Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
                      Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
                        Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
                          Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
                          Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
                          Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
                      Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
                D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
                  Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 02:18 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 04:56 +0200
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 21:13 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:25 -0300
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:01 +0200
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 14:50 -0700
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:27 -0300
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 03:18 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 02:47 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:20 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:37 -0300
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:17 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:31 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:29 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-14 15:30 +0300
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:45 +0200
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-14 17:15 +0200
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 19:51 +0200
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 12:05 -0700
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
            Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:06 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:08 -0700

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#400903

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
Message-ID<87mruy95z2.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#400858
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:


> Now is there some particular book you feel is worth my time in German?
> For either studying some C or Lisp arcana?  Preferably not some basics,
> as those are already covered in English.

my answer would be using ITU (international morse code) and looking at
American (or military) CW (continious wave). Many people claim they have
learned both from just listening to it on the radio.

Unfortunately radio is all but dead. This is a good thing; less "traffic
police".

As to english books I do have an excellent book one of my teachers gave
me. it contains all the funky rules of american enhlish. I am not at
"home" right now so I look it up and I can't remeber the name. She said
just read and re-scim this book before writing papers in college. This
is bothering me now...

I personally think that you need to practice the language to understand
it.

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#400932

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
Message-ID<KjKdS.73517$DOD1.21021@fx17.ams4>
In reply to#400903
On 07/08/2026 7:36 AM, steve g wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
> 
> 
>> Now is there some particular book you feel is worth my time in German?
>> For either studying some C or Lisp arcana?  Preferably not some basics,
>> as those are already covered in English.
> 
> my answer would be using ITU (international morse code) and looking at
> American (or military) CW (continious wave). Many people claim they have
> learned both from just listening to it on the radio.
> 
> Unfortunately radio is all but dead. This is a good thing; less "traffic
> police".
> 
> As to english books I do have an excellent book one of my teachers gave
> me. it contains all the funky rules of american enhlish. I am not at
> "home" right now so I look it up and I can't remeber the name. She said
> just read and re-scim this book before writing papers in college. This
> is bothering me now...
> 
> I personally think that you need to practice the language to understand
> it.

I try to keep in shape by reading books in languages I'm not using.  Or
converse with people about programming languages I don't use anymore,
such as Pascal.

I've managed to keep my French more or less intact, but could use a
brush up on Danish, and of course German as I said.  I'm sure I'll
find something to inspire me to keep practicing German.  After all,
I'm struggling to read Asterisk and Obelisk in Latin.


Best wishes, and happy language studies in comp.lang.lisp!
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#400939

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
Message-ID<87qzk6vri7.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#400932
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:

> I try to keep in shape by reading books in languages I'm not using.  Or
> converse with people about programming languages I don't use anymore,
> such as Pascal.
>
> I've managed to keep my French more or less intact, but could use a
> brush up on Danish, and of course German as I said.  I'm sure I'll
> find something to inspire me to keep practicing German.  After all,
> I'm struggling to read Asterisk and Obelisk in Latin.
>
>
> Best wishes, and happy language studies in comp.lang.lisp!


Have you tried shortwave radio? You'll get all kinds of people talking
different languages; not to mention it is rather entertaining.

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#400948

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<115db4m$3ed39$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#400932
On 8/8/2026 11:11 AM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 07/08/2026 7:36 AM, steve g wrote:
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Now is there some particular book you feel is worth my time in German?
>>> For either studying some C or Lisp arcana?  Preferably not some basics,
>>> as those are already covered in English.
>>
>> my answer would be using ITU (international morse code) and looking at
>> American (or military) CW (continious wave). Many people claim they have
>> learned both from just listening to it on the radio.
>>
>> Unfortunately radio is all but dead. This is a good thing; less "traffic
>> police".
>>
>> As to english books I do have an excellent book one of my teachers gave
>> me. it contains all the funky rules of american enhlish. I am not at
>> "home" right now so I look it up and I can't remeber the name. She said
>> just read and re-scim this book before writing papers in college. This
>> is bothering me now...
>>
>> I personally think that you need to practice the language to understand
>> it.
> 
> I try to keep in shape by reading books in languages I'm not using.  Or
> converse with people about programming languages I don't use anymore,
> such as Pascal.
> 
> I've managed to keep my French more or less intact, but could use a
> brush up on Danish, and of course German as I said.  I'm sure I'll
> find something to inspire me to keep practicing German.  After all,
> I'm struggling to read Asterisk and Obelisk in Latin.
> 




> 
> Best wishes, and happy language studies in comp.lang.lisp!

Kind of makes my ears go all pointy wrt, is that from an ai?

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