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One works, the other doesn't?

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First post2019-11-03 17:39 -0500
Last post2019-11-09 02:09 -0500
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  One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-03 17:39 -0500
    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-04 00:20 +0000
    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-04 06:53 +0000
    Re: One works, the other doesn't? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-11-04 09:45 -0500
      Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 10:34 -0500
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-11-05 07:45 -0800
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 10:53 -0500
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 08:04 -0800
              Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 11:29 -0500
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-05 23:24 +0100
                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-05 23:06 +0000
                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:31 +1300
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-05 23:43 +0000
                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:54 +1300
                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 01:35 +0000
                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 15:16 +1300
                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 11:11 +0000
                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 01:59 -0800
                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 11:35 +0100
                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 08:57 -0800
                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:24 +1300
                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 22:59 +0100
                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 14:37 -0800
                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 00:58 +0100
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-07 02:08 -0800
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 15:43 +0100
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-11-07 16:15 -0600
                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-10 20:01 +0000
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-11 15:26 +1300
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-11 12:37 +0100
                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:21 +1300
                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 10:39 -0800
                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:47 +1300
                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 08:14 +1300
                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:30 -0800
                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-08 21:04 -0800
                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-09 01:37 -0800
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-09 01:38 -0800
                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-10 08:32 +1300
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 16:09 -0800
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-29 11:33 +0100
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-11-30 14:20 -0800
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-01 12:15 +1300
                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 10:07 +0100
                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 10:58 +0000
                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 10:05 +0100
                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 09:52 +0100
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 00:56 -0800
                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 01:00 -0800
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 11:32 +0000
                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 23:11 +0100
                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 23:22 +0000
                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 01:04 +0100
                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 01:13 +0000
                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 10:22 +0100
                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 11:51 +0000
                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 15:58 +0100
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 16:34 +0000
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-07 12:40 -0500
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 17:57 +0000
                                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-07 21:14 -0800
                                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-08 09:45 +0000
                                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-08 09:56 -0800
                                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-08 19:47 +0000
                                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-09 09:14 +1300
                                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-08 19:10 -0800
                                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-09 12:24 +0000
                                                  Like an old married couple... (Was: One works, the other doesn't?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-11-08 20:25 +0000
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 19:58 +0100
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 19:31 +0000
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 08:56 +1300
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 20:06 +0000
                                            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 09:21 +1300
                                              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 21:20 +0000
                                                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 10:28 +1300
                                                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 22:35 +0000
                                                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-09 09:22 +1300
                                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 08:37 -0800
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-07 08:52 -0800
                                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 09:52 -0800
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 20:04 +0100
                                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-08 19:50 -0800
              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 18:05 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 09:28 -0800
                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 19:02 +0100
                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-05 23:21 +0100
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 18:36 +0100
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-11-05 12:51 -0500
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 18:35 -0500
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2019-11-05 17:53 -0800
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-11-06 09:33 -0500
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2019-11-05 13:36 -0800
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2019-11-07 10:17 +0100
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-11-07 12:19 +0000
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2019-11-07 18:59 +0100
              Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-11-08 00:02 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2019-11-20 10:54 +0100
                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-11-20 11:14 +0000
                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2019-11-20 13:22 +0100
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 15:54 -0800
                    Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-20 08:42 -0800
                      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2019-11-21 18:56 +0100
                        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-11-22 01:07 +0000
                          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2019-11-22 15:27 +0100
                  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 15:47 -0800
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-07 18:41 -0500
      Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 17:39 +0100
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 11:47 -0500
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 17:54 +0100
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 09:00 -0800
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-08 21:02 -0800
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-09 02:09 -0500

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#148079

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2019-11-20 08:42 -0800
Message-ID<ln4kyy1otr.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#148071
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
[...]
> There's a very old trick to do the same thing:
>
>   typedef struct LIST
>   {
>        int count;
>        struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>        char str[1];
>   } Lista;
>
> Then you over-allocate the struct and store the string in-place, so to
> speak.  Of course it is technically undefined to access elements of the
> str member with indexes > 1, but it was (and is) such a widely-used hack
> that I would be surprised if any compiler did not take the possibility
> into account.

The "struct hack", as it's called, is discussed in question 2.6 of the
comp.lang.c FAQ <http://www.c-faq.com/>.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#148104

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2019-11-21 18:56 +0100
Message-ID<qr6j3j$1511$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#148079
On 11/20/2019 5:42 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
> [...]
>> There's a very old trick to do the same thing:
>>
>>    typedef struct LIST
>>    {
>>         int count;
>>         struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>>         char str[1];
>>    } Lista;
>>
>> Then you over-allocate the struct and store the string in-place, so to
>> speak.  Of course it is technically undefined to access elements of the
>> str member with indexes > 1, but it was (and is) such a widely-used hack
>> that I would be surprised if any compiler did not take the possibility
>> into account.
> 
> The "struct hack", as it's called, is discussed in question 2.6 of the
> comp.lang.c FAQ <http://www.c-faq.com/>.
> 

Wherein a reference is given to the well defined construct:
     typedef struct LIST
     {
        int count;
        struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
        char str[];
     } Lista;

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#148110

FromBen Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Date2019-11-22 01:07 +0000
Message-ID<87h82w7m7q.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
In reply to#148104
Manfred <noname@add.invalid> writes:

> On 11/20/2019 5:42 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>> [...]
>>> There's a very old trick to do the same thing:
>>>
>>>    typedef struct LIST
>>>    {
>>>         int count;
>>>         struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>>>         char str[1];
>>>    } Lista;
>>>
>>> Then you over-allocate the struct and store the string in-place, so to
>>> speak.  Of course it is technically undefined to access elements of the
>>> str member with indexes > 1, but it was (and is) such a widely-used hack
>>> that I would be surprised if any compiler did not take the possibility
>>> into account.
>>
>> The "struct hack", as it's called, is discussed in question 2.6 of the
>> comp.lang.c FAQ <http://www.c-faq.com/>.
>>
>
> Wherein a reference is given to the well defined construct:
>     typedef struct LIST
>     {
>        int count;
>        struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>        char str[];
>     } Lista;

And, indeed, that's already been talked about up thread.  We are in
danger of entering a loop with no termination condition!

-- 
Ben.

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#148119

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2019-11-22 15:27 +0100
Message-ID<qr8r81$1a1v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#148110
On 11/22/2019 2:07 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Manfred <noname@add.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 11/20/2019 5:42 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>> There's a very old trick to do the same thing:
>>>>
>>>>     typedef struct LIST
>>>>     {
>>>>          int count;
>>>>          struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>>>>          char str[1];
>>>>     } Lista;
>>>>
>>>> Then you over-allocate the struct and store the string in-place, so to
>>>> speak.  Of course it is technically undefined to access elements of the
>>>> str member with indexes > 1, but it was (and is) such a widely-used hack
>>>> that I would be surprised if any compiler did not take the possibility
>>>> into account.
>>>
>>> The "struct hack", as it's called, is discussed in question 2.6 of the
>>> comp.lang.c FAQ <http://www.c-faq.com/>.
>>>
>>
>> Wherein a reference is given to the well defined construct:
>>      typedef struct LIST
>>      {
>>         int count;
>>         struct LIST *pMin, *pMaj;
>>         char str[];
>>      } Lista;
> 
> And, indeed, that's already been talked about up thread.  We are in
> danger of entering a loop with no termination condition!
> 

True, sorry for the noise. I hadn't read upthread, and I did not realize 
that the discussion was going backwards in time, from str[] to str[1].

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#148201

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2019-11-28 15:47 -0800
Message-ID<86zhgf8swn.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#148068
jak <nospam@please.ty> writes:

> Il 08/11/2019 01:02, Ben Bacarisse ha scritto:
>
>>> [...]
>>
>> A merge sort will be O(n log n) but an unbalanced tree can still be
>> O(n^2).  On average it will be better, but not in the worst case.
>
> Forgive me if I'm late.  I have little free time for myself.
> Now I have again changed the algorithm to a balanced AVL tree.

If you have written C code for maintaining an AVL tree how about
posting that?

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#147754

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-11-07 18:41 -0500
Message-ID<uY1xF.91732$Ys1.32568@fx42.iad>
In reply to#147701
On 11/7/2019 4:17 AM, jak wrote:
> Il 05/11/2019 16:34, DFS ha scritto:


ha scritto... heh!



> I'm sorry, don't you think it's better to approach it using orderly 
> entry lists?

Not sure what you mean.

I had specific things I wanted to do to arrive at a final list:

- start with 2 lists of random data
- add a set of values to each list (which will create dupes when the
   lists are combined)
- combine the lists
- sort the new list
- dedupe the list
- copy unique elements to an array of the exact size

I ran your code as is (10K elements) and it worked.
I ran your code for 10M elements and it segfaulted.

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#147621

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2019-11-05 17:39 +0100
Message-ID<qps8j8$lhj$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#147576
I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS. If he isn't
skilled enough to manage to write something like that on his own
he's a hopeless case.

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#147622

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-11-05 11:47 -0500
Message-ID<%KhwF.7696$522.3346@fx05.iad>
In reply to#147621
On 11/5/2019 11:39 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS. If he isn't
> skilled enough to manage to write something like that on his own
> he's a hopeless case.


I didn't see your suggestions or fixes, creep.  Why not?

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#147623

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2019-11-05 17:54 +0100
Message-ID<qps9ft$i7r$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#147622
>> I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS.
>> If he isn't skilled enough to manage to write something
>> like that on his own he's a hopeless case.

> I didn't see your suggestions or fixes, creep.  Why not?

Because it doesn't make sense for the reason I told above.

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#147624

Fromluser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com>
Date2019-11-05 09:00 -0800
Message-ID<d5b52c78-101f-49eb-9b4e-94d84a1c3801@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147623
On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 10:54:35 AM UTC-6, Bonita Montero wrote:
> >> I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS.
> >> If he isn't skilled enough to manage to write something
> >> like that on his own he's a hopeless case.
> 
> > I didn't see your suggestions or fixes, creep.  Why not?
> 
> Because it doesn't make sense for the reason I told above.

This is not the way members of this group usually operate.
Participants here offer help almost unilaterally. Even if 
it may seem that OP will not benefit (which does not appear
to be the case here), there are other readers who may.

Your unfriendly dismissals and snap judgments do a disservice
to everyone, self included.

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#147810

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2019-11-08 21:02 -0800
Message-ID<86ftixej6f.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#147622
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:

> On 11/5/2019 11:39 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>
>> I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS.  If he isn't
>> skilled enough to manage to write something like that on his own
>> he's a hopeless case.
>
> I didn't see your suggestions or fixes, [...]

Speaking only for myself, I have a suggestion.  If you show more
consideration for other people in the group, other people might
be more inclined to show more consideration in responding to your
questions.

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#147816

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-11-09 02:09 -0500
Message-ID<oCtxF.6739$%o2.972@fx31.iad>
In reply to#147810
On 11/9/2019 12:02 AM, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:
> 
>> On 11/5/2019 11:39 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know why do you think there's something to DFS.  If he isn't
>>> skilled enough to manage to write something like that on his own
>>> he's a hopeless case.
>>
>> I didn't see your suggestions or fixes, [...]
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I have a suggestion.  If you show more
> consideration for other people in the group, other people might
> be more inclined to show more consideration in responding to your
> questions.


What are you talking about?  When was I EVER inconsiderate to anyone here?

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