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| Started by | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-24 13:56 +1300 |
| Last post | 2015-11-20 09:35 -0500 |
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Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:56 +1300
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Cal Dershowitz <Cal@example.invalid> - 2015-10-23 21:02 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-10-24 17:43 +0200
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-24 13:08 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-10-25 09:23 +0100
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 08:31 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-10-25 12:13 +0100
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 13:23 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-25 13:52 -0500
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-10-25 11:08 -0400
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-25 12:14 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-10-25 19:35 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 20:10 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-10-25 16:29 -0400
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 20:51 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 20:55 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 20:59 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-10-25 17:24 -0400
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 21:53 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-10-25 18:02 -0400
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 22:11 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-26 03:01 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-26 10:21 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-26 03:31 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-10-25 20:31 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-25 13:44 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-25 20:58 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-10-25 17:09 -0400
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:44 +1300
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-10-25 13:32 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-26 02:46 -0700
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-10-26 10:20 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-20 10:41 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-20 11:14 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 03:31 -0800
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-20 12:13 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-20 14:28 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-20 14:47 +0000
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 07:13 -0800
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> - 2015-11-20 07:54 -0500
Re: Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org> - 2015-11-20 09:35 -0500
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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-24 13:56 +1300 |
| Subject | Slightly OT but interesting for those who want modern C on windows |
| Message-ID | <d9039rFuctcU5@mid.individual.net> |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/21/microsoft_promises_clang_for_windows_in_november_visual_c_update/ "Developers will also welcome Clang because of its better standards compliance compared with Visual C++, for C as well as C++. Microsoft Engineering Manager Steve Carroll (from the front-end team), who also spoke at CPPCon, explained that while Microsoft’s support of the C99 and C11 standards is already much improved, Clang/C2 will complete it." -- Ian Collins
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| From | Cal Dershowitz <Cal@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-23 21:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d90e6hFnog4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #73670 |
On 10/23/2015 5:56 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/21/microsoft_promises_clang_for_windows_in_november_visual_c_update/ > > > "Developers will also welcome Clang because of its better standards > compliance compared with Visual C++, for C as well as C++. Microsoft > Engineering Manager Steve Carroll (from the front-end team), who also > spoke at CPPCon, explained that while Microsoft’s support of the C99 and > C11 standards is already much improved, Clang/C2 will complete it." > Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be something to upgrade from? -- Cal
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| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-10-24 17:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n0g8q7$3go$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73673 |
Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : > > Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be > something to upgrade from? Yes, you can download lcc-win from http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-24 13:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lnk2qct4g6.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #73695 |
jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:
> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit :
>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be
>> something to upgrade from?
>
> Yes, you can download lcc-win from
>
> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Quoting from that page:
This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob
Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it
professionally you have to have to buy a licence
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 09:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n0i3el$l8o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73732 |
Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit : > jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : >>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be >>> something to upgrade from? >> >> Yes, you can download lcc-win from >> >> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 > > Quoting from that page: > > This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob > Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it > professionally you have to have to buy a licence > Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them.
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 08:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0i3ts$moh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73754 |
On 25/10/15 08:23, jacobnavia wrote: > Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit : >> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >>> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : >>>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be >>>> something to upgrade from? >>> >>> Yes, you can download lcc-win from >>> >>> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 >> >> Quoting from that page: >> >> This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob >> Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it >> professionally you have to have to buy a licence >> > > Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at > lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them. It isn't an attack. It's a clarification. The question was whether there is a *free* C version for Windows 7. You answered that lcc-win32 is free. Keith clarified that it is free only for non-commercial use, quoting from your own Web page to do so. That isn't an attack. It's a helpful comment intended to assist the OP in making an intelligent choice. Consider the possibility that the OP wanted to use the compiler commercially. If so, then "lcc-win32" isn't a correct answer to his question, is it? After all, you'd expect him to pay for such usage. That is your right, and nobody is complaining about it, but in such a case lcc-win32 would not be "free" for the OP. It is only free for non-commercial use. So, if the OP wants a C compiler for non-commercial use, he can indeed use lcc-win32. But if not, he can't. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 12:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n0idc1$ldh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73755 |
Le 25/10/2015 09:31, Richard Heathfield a écrit : > It isn't an attack. It's a clarification. Quoting from Visual Studio page: Personal and Non-Commercial Use Limitation ------------------------------------------ Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from the Services. You did NOT clarify that for the announcement of this new additiopn to Visual Studio. Of course not, since that is Microsoft, and they can do whatever they want. When I do the same there is a never ending "clarification" campaign. And OF COURSE those aren't attacks but well meant "clarifications".
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 13:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0il0u$hr3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73761 |
On 25/10/15 11:13, jacobnavia wrote: > Le 25/10/2015 09:31, Richard Heathfield a écrit : >> It isn't an attack. It's a clarification. > > Quoting from Visual Studio page: > > Personal and Non-Commercial Use Limitation > ------------------------------------------ > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and > non-commercial use. You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, > display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works > from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services > obtained from the Services. > > > You did NOT clarify that for the announcement of this new additiopn to > Visual Studio. I didn't clarify it for lcc-win32 either. > Of course not, since that is Microsoft, and they can do whatever they want. Yes, they can, and so can you. And, if anyone here touts Microsoft's compiler as "free", it would be perfectly correct and appropriate to point out that this is only for non-commercial use. It is equally appropriate to point that out about lcc-win32. > When I do the same there is a never ending "clarification" campaign. If you find such clarifications objectionable, it is easy to forestall them. When someone asks: "Does anyone know of a free C compiler for Windows?", you can answer "lcc-win32 is free for non-commercial use". > And OF COURSE those aren't attacks but well meant "clarifications". That's right. And you would be wise to take them as such, instead of becoming offended and defensive. If you don't like being clarified, be clearer. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 13:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <j39q2blhdcnu8ogeaptlfmcejrf5gcb6hk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #73761 |
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:13:06 +0100, jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote: >Le 25/10/2015 09:31, Richard Heathfield a écrit : >> It isn't an attack. It's a clarification. > >Quoting from Visual Studio page: > >Personal and Non-Commercial Use Limitation >------------------------------------------ >Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and >non-commercial use. You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, >display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works >from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services >obtained from the Services. > > >You did NOT clarify that for the announcement of this new additiopn to >Visual Studio. > >Of course not, since that is Microsoft, and they can do whatever they want. > >When I do the same there is a never ending "clarification" campaign. > >And OF COURSE those aren't attacks but well meant "clarifications". I'm not sure what page you're quoting from, but the Visual Studio Express page says: "Commercial use of Express products Visual Studio Express products are available at no charge and may be used for commercial, production usage subject to the license terms provided with each product. For example, you can use Express for Windows to create apps that you can then submit for sale in the Windows Store. " https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-express-vs.aspx
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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 11:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <562CF05D.2020401@verizon.net> |
| In reply to | #73754 |
On 10/25/2015 04:23 AM, jacobnavia wrote: > Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit : >> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >>> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : >>>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be >>>> something to upgrade from? >>> >>> Yes, you can download lcc-win from >>> >>> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 >> >> Quoting from that page: >> >> This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob >> Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it >> professionally you have to have to buy a licence >> > > Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at > lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them. How does that constitute an attack? He's simply quoting your own text! If that's an attack, it's you attacking yourself; Keith is just serving as the communications channel. Why do you think that it constitute an attack to point out that you charge for commercial use of your software? The way you always respond when someone points it out makes is seem like you are ashamed of the fact that you charge for commercial use. If you are ashamed, stop charging for commercial use. If you're not ashamed, stop treating the fact that someone points out that you charge for commercial use as if it was an attack - it isn't, it's just important information, particularly when someone is looking for a free compiler. If they intend to use it commercially, than lcc-win32 isn't what they're looking for, and they need to know that fact.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 12:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lny4eqsqui.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #73754 |
jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:
> Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit :
>> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:
>>> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit :
>>>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be
>>>> something to upgrade from?
>>>
>>> Yes, you can download lcc-win from
>>>
>>> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
>>
>> Quoting from that page:
>>
>> This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob
>> Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it
>> professionally you have to have to buy a licence
>>
>
> Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at
> lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them.
I quoted your own words. It was not an attack, and I have no idea how
you reached the conclusion that it was.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 19:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0japm$qii$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73782 |
On 25/10/2015 19:14, Keith Thompson wrote: > jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >> Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit : >>> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >>>> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : >>>>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be >>>>> something to upgrade from? >>>> >>>> Yes, you can download lcc-win from >>>> >>>> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 >>> >>> Quoting from that page: >>> >>> This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob >>> Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it >>> professionally you have to have to buy a licence >>> >> >> Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at >> lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them. > > I quoted your own words. It was not an attack, and I have no idea how > you reached the conclusion that it was. The attack was that you felt obliged to post about it. Anyone who clicks on the link can find out for themselves. It wasn't anyway clear that the poster wanted a free C compiler; more like a C compiler that comes in a free version that could later upgraded. -- Bartc
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 20:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0jcsg$en5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73784 |
On 25/10/15 19:35, Bartc wrote: > On 25/10/2015 19:14, Keith Thompson wrote: >> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >>> Le 24/10/2015 22:08, Keith Thompson a écrit : >>>> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes: >>>>> Le 24/10/2015 06:02, Cal Dershowitz a écrit : >>>>>> Is there a (free) C version now for windows 7, so that there can be >>>>>> something to upgrade from? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you can download lcc-win from >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 >>>> >>>> Quoting from that page: >>>> >>>> This software is not freeware, it is copyrighted by Jacob >>>> Navia. It's free for non-commercial use, if you use it >>>> professionally you have to have to buy a licence >>>> >>> >>> Keith Thompson and many people in this group attack lcc-win since at >>> lest 15 years. There is no point in answering them. >> >> I quoted your own words. It was not an attack, and I have no idea how >> you reached the conclusion that it was. > > The attack was that you felt obliged to post about it. That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an attack. > Anyone who clicks > on the link can find out for themselves. True enough. Or they could simply read Keith's reply and find out that way. If you are correct that to make clear the position about lcc-win32's status constitutes an attack, and given that the lcc-win32 Web site does indeed make this clear (unlike Jacob Navia's upthread article), presumably you think that whoever wrote the lcc-win32 Web site is attacking lcc-win32. Which is daft, right? > It wasn't anyway clear that the poster wanted a free C compiler; If you re-read the OP in context, you will see that he is asking whether Microsoft supplies a free version of Clang for Windows 7. So not only did the OP want a free C compiler, but he specifically wanted a free C compiler *from Microsoft*, so Jacob Navia's reply didn't even answer the question. > more > like a C compiler that comes in a free version that could later upgraded. What is a "free version that could later upgraded" [sic] if not a free C compiler? Do you think that a free version that could later be upgraded is not free? -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 16:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0jduf$i2h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73785 |
On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> [...]
> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or
> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an
> attack.
... and usually is.
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
"Don't be afraid of work. Make work afraid of you." -- TLM
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 20:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0jf8m$o3u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73786 |
On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote: > On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> [...] >> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or >> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an >> attack. > > ... and usually is. I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive? -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 20:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87si4ymzvw.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #73790 |
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: > On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote: >> On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> [...] >>> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or >>> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an >>> attack. >> >> ... and usually is. > > I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my > articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive? I assume he meant "by Jacob"
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 20:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0jfn1$pur$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73791 |
On 25/10/15 20:55, Gareth Owen wrote: > Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: > >> On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote: >>> On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or >>>> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an >>>> attack. >>> >>> ... and usually is. >> >> I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my >> articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive? > > I assume he meant "by Jacob" Oh, you could be right. I hope not. It would be better for such discussions not to focus on individuals, if possible. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 17:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0jh6e$f9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73790 |
On 10/25/2015 4:51 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote:
>> On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or
>>> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an
>>> attack.
>>
>> ... and usually is.
>
> I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my
> articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive?
Why must you ALWAYS twist EVERYTHING? Where do YOU get off, trying
to accuse ME of making attacks? "Retract this lie, Heathfield, or I
swear to God I will see you in court."
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
"Don't be afraid of work. Make work afraid of you." -- TLM
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 21:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n0jit3$7ce$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73797 |
On 25/10/15 21:24, Eric Sosman wrote: > On 10/25/2015 4:51 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote: >>> On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or >>>> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an >>>> attack. >>> >>> ... and usually is. >> >> I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my >> articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive? > > Why must you ALWAYS twist EVERYTHING? Where do YOU get off, trying > to accuse ME of making attacks? "Retract this lie, Heathfield, or I > swear to God I will see you in court." :-) [Update on the original thread from which you are quoting: almost six years on, he still hasn't initiated proceedings.] -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-25 18:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n0jje8$9gk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73804 |
On 10/25/2015 5:53 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 25/10/15 21:24, Eric Sosman wrote:
>> On 10/25/2015 4:51 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> On 25/10/15 20:29, Eric Sosman wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/2015 4:10 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> That's an untenable claim. If it were true, any correction or
>>>>> clarification that anyone posts on any subject could be considered an
>>>>> attack.
>>>>
>>>> ... and usually is.
>>>
>>> I hope and trust that you're joking. When you post corrections to my
>>> articles, I consider it a favour, not an attack. Am I being naive?
>>
>> Why must you ALWAYS twist EVERYTHING? Where do YOU get off, trying
>> to accuse ME of making attacks? "Retract this lie, Heathfield, or I
>> swear to God I will see you in court."
>
> :-)
>
> [Update on the original thread from which you are quoting: almost six
> years on, he still hasn't initiated proceedings.]
Update on the update: He's extremely unlikely to initiate them
now, as he's busy with other matters at the moment.
http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=168577612
I don't rejoice at his demise, but I confess I'm glad he's gone silent.
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
"Don't be afraid of work. Make work afraid of you." -- TLM
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