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Microsoft abandons the C language

Started byjacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net>
First post2012-08-23 20:05 +0200
Last post2012-09-13 20:39 +0000
Articles 20 on this page of 386 — 52 participants

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  Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 20:05 +0200
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-23 20:28 +0200
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 21:06 +0100
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 12:44 -0700
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 22:14 +0200
      Re‭: ‬Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 14:15 -0700
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-23 22:07 +0200
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-08-23 16:20 -0400
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-23 22:51 +0200
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 09:33 +0200
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:51 +0200
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 13:30 +0200
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 13:32 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Daniel Weber <usenet@daniel-weber.eu> - 2012-08-24 13:46 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-24 15:44 -0400
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ozbear@bigpond.com (ozbear) - 2012-08-26 02:22 +0000
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-26 00:19 -0500
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ozbear@bigpond.com (ozbear) - 2012-08-27 00:25 +0000
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 13:51 -0700
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language CRNG <Spam@uce.gov> - 2012-08-23 16:57 -0500
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-23 18:01 -0400
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 15:21 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-23 19:04 -0400
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-23 23:26 -0600
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-23 19:14 -0500
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 11:35 -0500
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 21:03 +0200
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 18:46 -0500
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 21:13 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 21:08 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:41 -0500
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:50 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:35 -0600
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 02:17 -0500
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 02:58 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-26 15:32 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:02 -0600
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Leo Havmøller <rtxleh@nospam.nospam> - 2012-08-24 06:52 +0200
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:00 +0200
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-23 23:16 -0600
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-24 00:06 -0700
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:18 +0200
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Leo Havmøller <rtxleh@nospam.nospam> - 2012-08-24 09:22 +0200
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-24 09:53 +0200
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 03:48 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-24 15:28 -0400
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:20 +0100
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:43 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 03:30 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:11 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:10 -0600
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:16 +0100
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 02:45 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 10:58 +0100
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:02 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 02:59 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 05:28 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 07:45 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-25 12:12 +0100
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 05:33 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-25 16:57 +0100
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:22 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 10:46 +0100
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 11:00 -0500
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:31 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 01:57 -0500
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-25 13:58 -0500
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:36 -0600
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-25 22:50 -0700
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 10:42 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 04:27 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Chicken McNuggets <chicken@mcnuggets.com> - 2012-09-01 11:35 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-09-02 00:52 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:21 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:16 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:59 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 22:55 -0600
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-24 00:45 -0700
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:17 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:47 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-24 06:33 -0500
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-25 06:47 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-25 23:58 -0600
    Alternatives to Windows APIs in Metro style apps "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-24 04:20 -0600
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-24 12:38 +0200
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-25 21:09 +0000
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-26 01:40 +0200
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-27 20:58 +0000
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-27 17:12 -0400
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:25 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-27 15:03 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-27 15:35 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-28 01:13 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-28 01:30 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:46 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 09:12 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 23:26 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 09:59 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 02:44 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 11:40 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 03:10 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 05:05 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-03 00:32 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 01:16 -0700
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 01:03 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:28 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-28 18:25 +0000
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-08-28 20:35 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-08-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 21:11 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 21:39 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-08-28 22:29 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:09 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-08-28 23:16 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:27 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 17:24 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:37 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 14:37 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-28 23:39 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 00:15 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 01:54 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 17:15 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 02:27 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-29 10:01 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 10:54 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-29 13:47 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-29 07:57 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 16:20 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-29 12:32 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 20:28 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 14:51 -0400
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:11 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 15:32 -0400
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:47 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:01 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2012-08-29 19:27 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 21:30 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 15:44 -0400
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2012-08-29 20:07 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:06 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-29 08:21 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 15:37 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-29 15:59 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 16:27 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 11:02 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 11:42 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 14:52 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 07:27 -0400
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language rashid <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-08-29 20:00 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 16:36 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-29 23:12 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-29 21:47 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 17:51 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 03:07 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 21:38 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 11:40 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-30 04:00 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 13:55 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-30 13:47 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2012-08-30 23:24 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-30 02:40 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-29 17:46 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-29 18:25 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-30 13:43 +1200
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-30 03:37 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-30 08:28 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-31 05:29 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-31 11:57 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 14:20 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-30 06:39 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 20:08 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-30 22:51 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-31 01:04 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 11:42 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-30 16:33 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 12:29 +0100
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 04:40 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-08-31 17:26 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 08:50 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-31 12:46 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-08-31 20:17 +0200
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-31 14:41 -0400
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-01 00:11 +0200
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 12:48 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-02 20:39 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-02 17:07 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 12:22 +0100
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 20:49 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 18:58 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> - 2012-09-03 02:15 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 22:10 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-03 10:16 +0100
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 12:10 +0100
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-03 13:06 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-04 12:16 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 12:24 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 20:14 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-04 17:38 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Edek Pienkowski <edek.pienkowski@gmail.com> - 2012-09-04 19:34 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 16:46 -0700
                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Edek Pienkowski <edek.pienkowski@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 08:26 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 13:40 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 15:30 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 16:05 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 17:01 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 17:21 -0500
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 21:17 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-03 00:24 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 18:06 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:07 +1200
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-02 18:36 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-02 20:38 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 20:00 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:25 +0100
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-09-03 11:52 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-31 11:56 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-01 13:45 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-01 12:29 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:47 -0600
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 12:41 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:46 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 14:08 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-01 11:54 +1200
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 20:05 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 08:55 +1200
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:43 +0100
                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-04 09:25 +1200
                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-04 17:50 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 19:32 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-04 22:58 +0200
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 22:09 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-05 10:13 +1200
                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-05 08:59 +0200
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:57 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-06 17:30 +1200
                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 13:16 +0100
                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 07:13 +1200
                                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 21:25 +0100
                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 15:18 -0700
                                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 00:42 +0100
                                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 11:28 -0400
                                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 22:44 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 18:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 01:10 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-07 22:45 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 05:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 14:29 +0100
                                                                          Re‭: ‬Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-08 07:16 -0700
                                                                            Re: Re‭: ‬Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 15:58 +0100
                                                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 17:39 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 10:21 -0700
                                                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 22:29 +0100
                                                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-08 15:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 00:24 +0100
                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 20:47 +1200
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-06 17:22 +1200
                                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 13:12 +0100
                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 08:51 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 16:57 +0100
                                                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-07 19:40 +0300
                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 22:46 +0100
                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-09-10 17:02 -0400
                                                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-10 22:49 +0000
                                                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-09-11 11:13 -0400
                                                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-10 22:44 +0000
                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-07 07:18 +1200
                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-06 21:11 +0100
                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-06 16:57 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-07 02:27 +0100
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-06 15:40 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-09-08 09:54 +0200
                                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-08 01:23 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-10 10:48 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-02 14:29 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:49 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-02 15:15 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-31 21:58 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-31 14:02 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-09-02 12:55 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 19:21 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-01 22:44 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Don't make my brown eyes China Blue <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-01 21:56 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:48 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 02:04 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-02 19:07 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-08-31 11:57 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-31 11:05 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-31 21:10 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-31 11:54 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-30 08:02 +0200
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 14:57 -0400
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-28 21:19 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language ais523 <ais523@bham.ac.uk> - 2012-08-28 22:07 +0000
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 14:36 -0700
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 09:40 +1200
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-28 17:13 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-29 01:01 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 22:26 -0400
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Chicken McNuggets <chicken@mcnuggets.com> - 2012-09-02 12:28 +0100
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-25 16:48 -0700
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language timprince <tprince@computer.org> - 2012-08-25 23:20 -0400
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-25 20:55 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-26 02:24 -0500
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 10:45 +0200
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 03:13 -0600
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Tim Prince <tprince@nospamcomputer.org> - 2012-08-26 11:01 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-08-26 13:53 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 21:54 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:46 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-27 08:52 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 01:16 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-27 11:24 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 04:07 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 13:09 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 09:17 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 16:36 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:02 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 22:18 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-28 13:14 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-28 10:03 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-08-31 17:44 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:12 -0600
                                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-09-03 11:39 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-09-03 11:22 +0100
                                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-09-03 12:54 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-28 19:47 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:34 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 01:26 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 02:53 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:36 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 03:17 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 04:37 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 00:35 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 11:00 +0200
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 03:16 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-26 11:06 +0100
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 05:02 -0600
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-26 15:14 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-08-26 15:22 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:35 -0600
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:38 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-27 10:56 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-27 21:21 +0100
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-28 02:42 +0200
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-27 20:02 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-28 10:51 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-28 03:52 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-08-28 12:47 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2012-08-28 18:25 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language s0suk3@gmail.com - 2012-08-29 11:25 -0700
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-26 11:06 -0700
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:01 -0600
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-29 07:33 -0400
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 00:13 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-26 11:17 -0500
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-08-26 14:22 -0500
          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-26 22:30 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-26 22:43 -0700
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 00:32 -0600
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-27 01:02 -0700
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 01:42 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 03:00 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-28 10:49 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 04:14 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 04:18 -0600
                Re: Microsoft abandons the C language David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-08-27 10:56 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 03:40 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-08-27 04:05 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 15:13 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 23:47 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 09:16 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 01:48 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-28 14:10 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-08-28 17:14 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 01:45 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-09-02 10:01 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net> - 2012-09-02 02:54 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 13:45 -0500
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-27 23:28 -0600
            Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-08-27 13:58 -0500
              Re: Microsoft abandons the C language "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-28 00:20 -0600
        Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Adrian Ratnapala <adrian.ratnapala@gmail.com> - 2012-08-26 15:24 -0700
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2012-08-27 00:48 +0000
    Re: Microsoft abandons the C language jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-09-13 19:46 +0200
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2012-09-13 13:32 -0700
      Re: Microsoft abandons the C language Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-13 20:39 +0000

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#25745

FromNick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-02 03:10 -0700
Message-ID<ca52314b-e892-4727-b67b-565059ce1141@d9g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25739
On Sep 2, 8:59 am, Jens Gustedt <jens.gust...@loria.fr> wrote:
> Am 02.09.2012 07:26, schrieb Anse:
>
> > I
>
> ah, so you got yourself a new alias, suspected that you would come up
> with something like this. Good to know that these tow are the same.
>
> > was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?
>
> ah, so your statement was ironic? Is that it? You were joking?
>
> > Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with? Oh wait, don't tell
> > me, I've just run into Ted Nugent? Guitar "hero" still trying to
> > make good on adolescnt wanking Ted?
>
> sorry, I am not able to follow you here. English is neither my native
> tongue nor culture.

I suspect sanity isn't his native tongue

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#25748

From"Anse" <blankone23@framebuilder.net>
Date2012-09-02 05:05 -0600
Message-ID<k1vegi$9c7$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25745
Nick Keighley wrote:
> On Sep 2, 8:59 am, Jens Gustedt <jens.gust...@loria.fr> wrote:
>> Am 02.09.2012 07:26, schrieb Anse:
>>
>>> I
>>
>> ah, so you got yourself a new alias, suspected that you would come up
>> with something like this. Good to know that these tow are the same.
>>
>>> was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?
>>
>> ah, so your statement was ironic? Is that it? You were joking?
>>
>>> Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with? Oh wait, don't tell
>>> me, I've just run into Ted Nugent? Guitar "hero" still trying to
>>> make good on adolescnt wanking Ted?
>>
>> sorry, I am not able to follow you here. English is neither my native
>> tongue nor culture.
>
> I suspect sanity isn't his native tongue
>

I suspect you "I owe you something"?
What? 

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#25780

Fromjacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net>
Date2012-09-03 00:32 +0200
Message-ID<k20mpt$f4f$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25748
Le 02/09/12 13:05, Anse a écrit :
> Nick Keighley wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 8:59 am, Jens Gustedt <jens.gust...@loria.fr> wrote:
>>> Am 02.09.2012 07:26, schrieb Anse:
>>>
>>>> I
>>>
>>> ah, so you got yourself a new alias, suspected that you would come up
>>> with something like this. Good to know that these tow are the same.
>>>
>>>> was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?
>>>
>>> ah, so your statement was ironic? Is that it? You were joking?
>>>
>>>> Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with? Oh wait, don't tell
>>>> me, I've just run into Ted Nugent? Guitar "hero" still trying to
>>>> make good on adolescnt wanking Ted?
>>>
>>> sorry, I am not able to follow you here. English is neither my native
>>> tongue nor culture.
>>
>> I suspect sanity isn't his native tongue
>>
>
> I suspect you "I owe you something"?
> What?
>
>

The strategy of this troll is always the same: Just hang a "profound" 
looking sentence into some posts at random. Obviously there isn't any 
discussion or hint of any, it is just always the same pattern.

He has been trolling in the C++ group too, always with the same tactic.

He has no knowledge of anything technical or about software or anything 
like that, it is just somebody that loves to start insulting people at 
random and the anonymity of usenet allows to do it with easy.

Look at this for instance:

"I was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?"
"Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with?"

Etc. Meaningless sentences juxtaposed so that they seem to be 
articulated when in fact they aren't.

jacob


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#25808

FromNick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-03 01:16 -0700
Message-ID<219b3d0b-2d59-4704-8e77-7b25e8386065@k17g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25780
On Sep 2, 11:32 pm, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote:
> Le 02/09/12 13:05, Anse a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nick Keighley wrote:
> >> On Sep 2, 8:59 am, Jens Gustedt <jens.gust...@loria.fr> wrote:
> >>> Am 02.09.2012 07:26, schrieb Anse:
>
> >>>> I
>
> >>> ah, so you got yourself a new alias, suspected that you would come up
> >>> with something like this. Good to know that these tow are the same.
>
> >>>> was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?
>
> >>> ah, so your statement was ironic? Is that it? You were joking?
>
> >>>> Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with? Oh wait, don't tell
> >>>> me, I've just run into Ted Nugent? Guitar "hero" still trying to
> >>>> make good on adolescnt wanking Ted?
>
> >>> sorry, I am not able to follow you here. English is neither my native
> >>> tongue nor culture.
>
> >> I suspect sanity isn't his native tongue
>
> > I suspect you "I owe you something"?
> > What?
>
> The strategy of this troll is always the same: Just hang a "profound"
> looking sentence into some posts at random. Obviously there isn't any
> discussion or hint of any, it is just always the same pattern.
>
> He has been trolling in the C++ group too, always with the same tactic.
>
> He has no knowledge of anything technical or about software or anything
> like that, it is just somebody that loves to start insulting people at
> random and the anonymity of usenet allows to do it with easy.
>
> Look at this for instance:
>
> "I was trying to help the flailing duck and you call me a hunter?"
> "Aren't you the one who shot him to begin with?"
>
> Etc. Meaningless sentences juxtaposed so that they seem to be
> articulated when in fact they aren't.

poorly written bot maybe?

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#25362

FromNick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com>
Date2012-08-29 01:03 -0700
Message-ID<1a7f2382-e756-45c0-8a20-2dcf935222d3@z8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25150
On Aug 28, 12:13 am, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote:
> Le 28/08/12 00:35, Keith Thompson a écrit :
>
> > here's
> > a quotation from the ISO C99 standard:
>
> >      This second edition cancels and replaces the first edition, ISO/IEC
> >      9899:1990, as amended and corrected by ISO/IEC 9899/COR1:1994,
> >      ISO/IEC 9899/AMD1:1995, and ISO/IEC 9899/COR2:1996.
>
> Interesting Mr Thompson.
>
> I remember that I cited the same paragraph in this same group some
> years ago, and I was flamed by Mr Heathfield and the other regulars
> that maintained that "standard c" means C90 (As microsoft does now).
>
> Well, better late than never!
>
> P.S.
> Specifically here is a message that I wrote around November 28, 2009,
> and your answer below:
>
>  >
>  > >       »This second edition cancels and replaces the first
>  > >       edition, ISO/IEC 9899:1990, as amended and corrected by
>  > >       ISO/IEC 9899/COR1:1994, ISO/IEC 9899/AMD1:1995, and
>  > >       ISO/IEC 9899/COR2:1996.«
>  >
>  > >     ISO/IEC 9899:1999 (E)
>  >
>  > >   This means that C is the language specified by ISO/IEC
>  > >   9899:1999 (E). »ISO/IEC 9899:1990« is canceled.
>  >
>  > In theory, yes.  In practice, conforming C90 compilers are still
>  > much more common than conforming C99 compilers.  Many compilers
>  > implement large parts of C99, but others, still in common use,
>  > implement almost none of it (more precisely, almost none of the
>  > differences between C90 and C99).

I see no flame. Which part of that is factually wrong?

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#25181

From"Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com>
Date2012-08-27 22:28 -0600
Message-ID<k1hhbp$ibk$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25140
Keith Thompson wrote:
> [Dropping comp.compilers.lcc, since this has nothing to do with the
> lcc or lcc-win compiler]
>
> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 01:40:03 +0200, Jens Gustedt wrote:
>>> Am 25.08.2012 23:09, schrieb rashid:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:05:20 +0200, jacob navia wrote:
>>>>> This is a long story. It starts years ago since windows 3.1 and it
>>>>> ends now, with "Metro".
>>>
>>>> MS is a great friend of C.
>>>
>>> such a great friend that they refused to support the successive
>>> standards since 1999
>>
>> Sorry this is garbage. MSVC supports all C/C++ standards, also extra
>> features (eg C++ style // comments will be accepted in C programs
>> too)
>
> You are mistaken.  MSVS's support for C90 is reasonably good; their
> support for C99 and C11 is nearly nonexistent, and deliberately so.
>

Time out!! What does that mean?! "deliberately so". Is that an accusation? 
Or a just a little boy throwing rocks? 

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#25268

Fromrashid <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2012-08-28 18:25 +0000
Message-ID<k1j2eg$hi4$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25140
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:03:17 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
>     #include <stdbool.h>
>     #include <complex.h>
>     #include <stdint.h>
>     
>     inline void foo(uint32_t *restrict p) { }
>     
>     int main(void) {
>         bool b = false;
>         int size = 20;
>         uint32_t vla[size];
>         double complex x;
>         foo(vla);
>         return 0;
>     }
> 
> I don't know how well MSVC supports the various versions of the C++
> standard.  My guess (and it's no more than that) is that they're working
> on C++11 support.

Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++. You probably use an extension 
language with all this strange stuff. For example, in C you cannot have 
vla[size] where size is a variable. You must do
#define size 20
instead.

Maybe in high level languages like PERL you can do that.

> [...]
> 
>>> There is no such thing like C/C++.
>>
>> ??? Are you a crazy? Or you only use JAVA? __Most__ modern software
>> development relies on C/C++.
> 
> Perhaps this is just a confusion about terminology.

No, I don't think so. You name any common modern sofware - Excel or 
Acrobat or Skype or Firefox or anything - it is ALL coded mainly in C/C++.

I feel like people in this forum operate, using a set of rules I don't 
understand. Like a parallel universe!

>> No you are the joking clown, you and all the MS haters. You want the
>> Linux? Go and use the Linux and be happy. But please do not spread
>> stupid lies about MS.
>>
>> Thank you.
> 
> Even if you're right, you really should be more polite.  Being
> simultaneously rude and wrong is not good for your reputation here.

Sorry but if someone deliberately spreads lies, I will politely call him 
out on it.

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#25271

FromAnders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk>
Date2012-08-28 20:35 +0200
Message-ID<87fw76kgp8.fsf@huddi.jernurt.dk>
In reply to#25268
rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:


> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.

 To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
sure.

> You probably use an extension language with all this strange
> stuff. For example, in C you cannot have vla[size] where size is a
> variable. You must do #define size 20 instead.

 VLA's have been part of C since C99. Have you been living under a
rock for the past 13 years?

 ..

> Sorry but if someone deliberately spreads lies, I will politely call
> him out on it.

 I'll get the popcorn going, while I wait to see what Nemesis have
prepared for you.

-- 
/Wegge

Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.*

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#25278

FromWilliam Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com>
Date2012-08-28 11:55 -0700
Message-ID<fpgvg9-379.ln1@wilbur.25thandClement.com>
In reply to#25271
Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> wrote:
> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:


> > Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.

>  To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
> sure.

> > You probably use an extension language with all this strange
> > stuff. For example, in C you cannot have vla[size] where size is a
> > variable. You must do #define size 20 instead.

>  VLA's have been part of C since C99. Have you been living under a
> rock for the past 13 years?

If I were a betting man, I'd wager rashid is trolling, perhaps in tandem
with ansel. There are, like, a gazillion (roughly speaking) posts in the
past week concerning VLAs.

It's actually a compliment, because the alternative to trolling would be
that rashid made a very silly remark, indeed.

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#25282

FromJens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr>
Date2012-08-28 21:11 +0200
Message-ID<503D17CA.5020105@loria.fr>
In reply to#25271
Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
> 
>  To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
> sure.

It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.

Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.

Jens

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#25290

FromVincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it>
Date2012-08-28 21:39 +0200
Message-ID<U79%r.202896$GZ3.32585@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#25282
Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
> Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
>> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
>>
>>   To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
>> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
>> sure.
>
> It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
>
> Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
>

What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
whether the Standard can justify such a failure.

-- 
Vincenzo Mercuri

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#25292

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid>
Date2012-08-28 22:29 +0200
Message-ID<k1j9n0$6rr$1@solani.org>
In reply to#25290
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:39:32 +0200
Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> wrote:

> Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
> > Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
> >> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
> >>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
> >>
> >>   To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even
> >> C99, but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot
> >> say for sure.
> >
> > It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
> >
> > Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
> >
> 
> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.
> 

It will fail only on debug builds because gcc than does not honor
inlining. With optimizations it will compile...

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#25300

FromVincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it>
Date2012-08-28 23:09 +0200
Message-ID<xsa%r.202906$GZ3.85418@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#25292
Il 28/08/2012 22:29, Melzzzzz ha scritto:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:39:32 +0200
> Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> wrote:
>
>> Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
>>> Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
>>>> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>>>>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
>>>>
>>>>    To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even
>>>> C99, but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot
>>>> say for sure.
>>>
>>> It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
>>>
>>> Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
>>>
>>
>> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
>> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
>> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
>> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.
>>
>
> It will fail only on debug builds because gcc than does not honor
> inlining. With optimizations it will compile...
>

Compiling with optimizations enabled means forcing inlining. It will
also compile defining that function as "static inline" or providing
an "extern" declaration and a definition for it. The Standard says that
"It is unspecified whether a call to the function uses the inline
definition or the external definition". Does the Standard suggest that
we should provide both an "inline" and an "external" definition?
If yes, that would be "strange".

-- 
Vincenzo Mercuri

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#25303

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid>
Date2012-08-28 23:16 +0200
Message-ID<k1jcfr$6rr$3@solani.org>
In reply to#25300
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:09:49 +0200
Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> wrote:

> Il 28/08/2012 22:29, Melzzzzz ha scritto:
> >>
> >> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
> >> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
> >> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
> >> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.
> >>
> >
> > It will fail only on debug builds because gcc than does not honor
> > inlining. With optimizations it will compile...
> >
> 
> Compiling with optimizations enabled means forcing inlining. It will
> also compile defining that function as "static inline" or providing
> an "extern" declaration and a definition for it. The Standard says
> that "It is unspecified whether a call to the function uses the inline
> definition or the external definition". Does the Standard suggest that
> we should provide both an "inline" and an "external" definition?
> If yes, that would be "strange".
> 

Agreed, this is bug in gcc/clang. g++ links happily
inline functions with debug build, so it must be bug in c backend
as they are different in gcc.

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#25307

FromVincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it>
Date2012-08-28 23:27 +0200
Message-ID<RIa%r.202916$GZ3.84224@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#25303
Il 28/08/2012 23:16, Melzzzzz ha scritto:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:09:49 +0200
> Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> wrote:
>
>> Il 28/08/2012 22:29, Melzzzzz ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
>>>> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
>>>> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
>>>> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It will fail only on debug builds because gcc than does not honor
>>> inlining. With optimizations it will compile...
>>>
>>
>> Compiling with optimizations enabled means forcing inlining. It will
>> also compile defining that function as "static inline" or providing
>> an "extern" declaration and a definition for it. The Standard says
>> that "It is unspecified whether a call to the function uses the inline
>> definition or the external definition". Does the Standard suggest that
>> we should provide both an "inline" and an "external" definition?
>> If yes, that would be "strange".
>>
>
> Agreed, this is bug in gcc/clang. g++ links happily
> inline functions with debug build, so it must be bug in c backend
> as they are different in gcc.
>

Mmm.. it looks like another subtle difference between C and C++.
Compilation with the Intel Compiler succeeds. I can't say about
Solaris cc.

-- 
Vincenzo Mercuri

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#25304

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2012-08-28 17:24 -0400
Message-ID<503D36F3.7000204@verizon.net>
In reply to#25300
On 08/28/2012 05:09 PM, Vincenzo Mercuri wrote:
...
> Compiling with optimizations enabled means forcing inlining.

Not necessarily - a sufficiently smart compiler might realize that,
depending upon the context, a given piece of code could execute more
efficiently if not inlined.

> ... It will
> also compile defining that function as "static inline" or providing
> an "extern" declaration and a definition for it. The Standard says that
> "It is unspecified whether a call to the function uses the inline
> definition or the external definition". Does the Standard suggest that
> we should provide both an "inline" and an "external" definition?
> If yes, that would be "strange".

It might seem strange, but "it is unspecified" which definition gets
called, and you've got serious problems if you don't define the one that
actually gets called. Different calls to the same function within a
single translation unit could call each; the same call could call a
different version each time it's executed. That's the power of
"unspecified". I would therefore consider it strongly recommended that
you provide both definitions. C's pre-processing statements can be used
to ensure that both definitions are equivalent, while actually writing
the definition only once.

You can also avoid the issue entirely by using "static inline".

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#25311

FromVincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it>
Date2012-08-28 23:37 +0200
Message-ID<ASa%r.202922$GZ3.103037@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#25304
Il 28/08/2012 23:24, James Kuyper ha scritto:
> On 08/28/2012 05:09 PM, Vincenzo Mercuri wrote:
> ...
>> Compiling with optimizations enabled means forcing inlining.
>
> Not necessarily - a sufficiently smart compiler might realize that,
> depending upon the context, a given piece of code could execute more
> efficiently if not inlined.

Of course, I didn't mean that as a general rule for optimizations.
That's true for gcc though.

>
>> ... It will
>> also compile defining that function as "static inline" or providing
>> an "extern" declaration and a definition for it. The Standard says that
>> "It is unspecified whether a call to the function uses the inline
>> definition or the external definition". Does the Standard suggest that
>> we should provide both an "inline" and an "external" definition?
>> If yes, that would be "strange".
>
> It might seem strange, but "it is unspecified" which definition gets
> called, and you've got serious problems if you don't define the one that
> actually gets called. Different calls to the same function within a
> single translation unit could call each; the same call could call a
> different version each time it's executed. That's the power of
> "unspecified". I would therefore consider it strongly recommended that
> you provide both definitions. C's pre-processing statements can be used
> to ensure that both definitions are equivalent, while actually writing
> the definition only once.
>

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know :)

> You can also avoid the issue entirely by using "static inline".
>

Indeed, this will always make it compile.


-- 
Vincenzo Mercuri

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#25312

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2012-08-28 14:37 -0700
Message-ID<ln6282zoi7.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>
In reply to#25290
Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> writes:
> Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
>> Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
>>> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>>>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
>>>
>>>   To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
>>> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
>>> sure.
>>
>> It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
>>
>> Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
>>
>
> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.

Changing `inline void foo` to `static inline void foo` avoids
that problem.  (I compiled with `gcc -c` before posting; I should
have tried linking as well.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
    Will write code for food.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#25314

FromVincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it>
Date2012-08-28 23:39 +0200
Message-ID<eUa%r.202923$GZ3.107701@tornado.fastwebnet.it>
In reply to#25312
Il 28/08/2012 23:37, Keith Thompson ha scritto:
> Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> writes:
>> Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
>>> Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
>>>> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>>>>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
>>>>
>>>>    To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
>>>> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
>>>> sure.
>>>
>>> It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
>>>
>>> Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
>>>
>>
>> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
>> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
>> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
>> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.
>
> Changing `inline void foo` to `static inline void foo` avoids
> that problem.  (I compiled with `gcc -c` before posting; I should
> have tried linking as well.)
>

Yes indeed, thank you.

-- 
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#25323

FromJens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr>
Date2012-08-29 00:15 +0200
Message-ID<503D4315.7030702@loria.fr>
In reply to#25290
Am 28.08.2012 21:39, schrieb Vincenzo Mercuri:
> Il 28/08/2012 21:11, Jens Gustedt ha scritto:
>> Am 28.08.2012 20:35, schrieb Anders Wegge Keller:
>>> rashid <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
>>>> Look Keith, most of this is NOT C OR C++.
>>>
>>>   To my untrained eyes, that looks like correct C11. Maybe even C99,
>>> but there are some features that I've never used, so I cannot say for
>>> sure.
>>
>> It *is* all valid C99, Keith constructed it like that for a purpose.
>>
>> Sorry rashid, but you completely missed the point.
>>
> 
> What is odd is that both gcc (4.7.1) and clang (3.2) will fail
> when linking. They probably choose not to inline, then they look
> for an "external symbol" for `foo()' but won't find it. I wonder
> whether the Standard can justify such a failure.

It does. The point that Keith seems to have missed is that an "inline"
definition in C always needs a sort of "instantiation" in just one
compilation unit. Adding this one should do the trick:

void foo(uint32_t *restrict p);

Jens

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