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  Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-07 17:04 +0200
    Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-08 00:08 -0600
      Re: Updates to the ccl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-08 07:50 +0000
        Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-08 10:08 +0200
          Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-16 23:54 -0600
            Re: Updates to the ccl nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-18 01:54 -0700
              Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-22 04:14 -0600
      Re: Updates to the ccl BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-08 11:05 -0700
        Re: Updates to the ccl James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-08 14:26 -0400
          Re: Updates to the ccl "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-08 20:18 +0100
            Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 00:34 -0600
              Re: Updates to the ccl "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-17 11:50 +0100
                Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-22 04:16 -0600
          Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-08 22:28 +0200
            Re: Updates to the ccl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-08 23:07 +0000
            Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 00:42 -0600
          Re: Updates to the ccl Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-09 08:55 +1200
            Re: Updates to the ccl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-08 23:07 +0000
            Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 00:47 -0600
            Re: Updates to the ccl Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-17 11:32 -0700
              Re: Updates to the ccl gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 00:51 -0700
              Re: Updates to the ccl nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-18 02:10 -0700
                Re: Updates to the ccl Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-07-07 05:14 -0700
                  Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-07 17:31 +0200
                    Re: Updates to the ccl Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-07-07 08:53 -0700
          Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 00:21 -0600
        Re: Updates to the ccl Noob <root@localhost> - 2012-06-10 18:44 +0200
          Re: Updates to the ccl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-10 17:07 +0000
            Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-10 21:53 +0200
              Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 01:07 -0600
          Re: Updates to the ccl "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> - 2012-06-17 00:54 -0600
            Re: Updates to the ccl nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-18 02:13 -0700
              Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-18 13:41 +0200
    Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-06-20 09:11 +0200
    Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-06 19:20 +0200
    Re: Updates to the ccl Marco <prenom_nomus@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-07 08:01 -0700
      Re: Updates to the ccl jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-07 17:32 +0200

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#21931 — Updates to the ccl

Hi
I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list 
container, and updated the documentation.

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#21942

"jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message 
news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Hi
> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list 
> container, and updated the documentation.

So what?

"When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40, 
they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize 
that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
    - Joel Osteen (paraphrased) 

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#21943

In article <jqs4j2$653$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe. <antelope3@news.net> wrote:
>
>"jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message 
>news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Hi
>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list 
>> container, and updated the documentation.
>
>So what?
>
>"When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40, 
>they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize 
>that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
>    - Joel Osteen (paraphrased) 

Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
televangelists as sources of wisdom?

-- 
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. 

    - John Kenneth Galbraith -

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#21944

Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a écrit :
> In article<jqs4j2$653$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe.<antelope3@news.net>  wrote:
>>
>> "jacob navia"<jacob@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Hi
>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40,
>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize
>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
>>     - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
>
> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
>

And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.

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#22321

"jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message 
news:jqsbtn$npn$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a écrit :
>> In article<jqs4j2$653$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe.<antelope3@news.net> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "jacob navia"<jacob@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>>
>>> So what?
>>>
>>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 
>>> 40,
>>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they 
>>> realize
>>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
>>>     - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
>>
>> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
>> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
>>
>
> And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
>

You missed the message entirely apparently. As in, "major faux paus"? 

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#22357

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:54:39 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
> "jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message 
> news:jqsbtn$npn$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> > Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a �crit :
> >> In article<jqs4j2$653$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe.<antelope3@news.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "jacob navia"<jacob@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
> >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
> >>>
> >>> So what?
> >>>
> >>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 
> >>> 40,
> >>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they 
> >>> realize
> >>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
> >>>     - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
> >>
> >> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
> >> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
> >>
> >
> > And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
> >
> 
> You missed the message entirely apparently. As in, "major faux paus"?

missed me too. What was your point?

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#22527

<nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:f4f36595-f6c3-4db4-897c-0ea941d70ee1@googlegroups.com...
On Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:54:39 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
> "jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message
> news:jqsbtn$npn$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> > Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a ?crit :
> >> In article<jqs4j2$653$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe.<antelope3@news.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "jacob navia"<jacob@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
> >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
> >>>
> >>> So what?
> >>>
> >>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they 
> >>> are
> >>> 40,
> >>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they
> >>> realize
> >>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
> >>>     - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
> >>
> >> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting 
> >> whacko
> >> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
> >>
> >
> > And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
> >
>
> You missed the message entirely apparently. As in, "major faux paus"?

missed me too. What was your point?

you don't count cuz you are too old to abuse me, but you know you would if 
you could and  I  don't like you, or you want what? me to be a leader? pfft. 
fucking liar. 

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#21981

On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe." <antelo...@news.net> wrote:
> "jacob navia" <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> > Hi
> > I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> > container, and updated the documentation.
>
> So what?

So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
update?

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#21983

On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe." <antelo...@news.net> wrote:
>> "jacob navia" <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>
>> So what?
> 
> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
> update?

No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.

I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.

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#21999

"James Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:4FD243EC.8010100@verizon.net...
> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:

>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>> update?
>
> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
> own compiler.

The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.

> No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.

Perhaps because it isn't a very good medium for advertising.

-- 
Bartc 

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#22323

"BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> wrote in message news:jqtj6u$aa7$1@dont-email.me...
> "James Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote in message 
> news:4FD243EC.8010100@verizon.net...
>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>
>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>> update?
>>
>> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>> own compiler.
>
> The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.

What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?

>
>> No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
>> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.
>
> Perhaps because it isn't a very good medium for advertising.

Did you have a point with that statement?

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#22332

"Joe." <antelope3@news.net> wrote in message 
news:jrjttu$n8a$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> wrote in message 
> news:jqtj6u$aa7$1@dont-email.me...
>> "James Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>> news:4FD243EC.8010100@verizon.net...
>>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>>
>>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>>> update?
>>>
>>> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>>> own compiler.
>>
>> The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.
>
> What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?

The one in the subject line.

-- 
Bartc 

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#22528

"BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> wrote in message news:jrkcpp$gco$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
> "Joe." <antelope3@news.net> wrote in message 
> news:jrjttu$n8a$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> wrote in message 
>> news:jqtj6u$aa7$1@dont-email.me...
>>> "James Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:4FD243EC.8010100@verizon.net...
>>>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>>>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>>>> update?
>>>>
>>>> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>>>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>>>> own compiler.
>>>
>>> The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.
>>
>> What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?
>
> The one in the subject line.

I don't trust you. 

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#22009

Le 08/06/12 20:26, James Kuyper a écrit :
> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<antelo...@news.net>  wrote:
>>> "jacob navia"<ja...@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>>
>>> So what?
>>
>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>> update?
>
> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
> own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.
>

In those sentences Mr Kuyper says two falsehoods:

1) The containers library would be specific to my compiler. Even if he
    knows perfectly well from the discussion of this last years he will
    start repeating that again and again.

2) "No other vendor" implies that I am a shrewd businessman trying to
    sell something here even if he knows perfectly well that I am
    distributing the whole code base for free without any strings
    attached. I have repeated this again and again for years, but Mr
    Kuyper insists in disseminating falsehoods again and again.

> I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
> for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
> an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.

When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
immediately to some long dead windows group.

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#22028

In article <jqtn8o$d46$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
jacob navia  <jacob@jspamsink.org> wrote:
...
>When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
>language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
>compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
>immediately to some long dead windows group.

Welcome to CLC.  We hope you enjoy your stay.

-- 
A liberal, a moderate, and a conservative walk into a bar...

Bartender says, "Hi, Mitt!"

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#22324

"jacob navia" <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote in message 
news:jqtn8o$d46$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Le 08/06/12 20:26, James Kuyper a écrit :
>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<antelo...@news.net>  wrote:
>>>> "jacob navia"<ja...@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>>>
>>>> So what?
>>>
>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>> update?
>>
>> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>> own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
>> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.
>>
>
> In those sentences Mr Kuyper says two falsehoods:
>
> 1) The containers library

You mean like "The god"? Are you trying to "divulge" the tactics of 
snake-oil salemen and false prophets?

> would be specific to my compiler.

"your" compiler? Hmm. A PCC-derivative is now "your compiler"?

>  Even if he
>    knows perfectly well from the discussion of this last years he will
>    start repeating that again and again.
>

Oh yeah, the sheeple are going to buy your "wares" after an outburst like 
that. Hello.

> 2) "No other vendor" implies that I am a shrewd businessman trying to
>    sell something here even if he knows perfectly well that I am
>    distributing the whole code base for free without any strings
>    attached. I have repeated this again and again for years, but Mr
>    Kuyper insists in disseminating falsehoods again and again.
>
>> I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
>> for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
>> an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.
>
> When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
> language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
> compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
> immediately to some long dead windows group.
>

I render your "assumption" false, just by posting.

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#22012

On 06/ 9/12 06:26 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<antelo...@news.net>  wrote:
>>> "jacob navia"<ja...@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>>
>>> So what?
>>
>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>> update?
>
> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
> own compiler.

I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this 
library.  So what's wrong with posting updates here?  Do you prefer 
reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?

-- 
Ian Collins

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#22026

In article <a3f75qFr2hU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ian Collins  <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
>I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this 
>library.  So what's wrong with posting updates here?  Do you prefer 
>reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?

Short answer: Yes.

(That is what they - folks like Kiper and Tompson - live for)

(Whatever floats your boat - as they say...)

-- 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
	by the wise as foolish,
	and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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#22325

"Ian Collins" <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:a3f75qFr2hU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 06/ 9/12 06:26 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<antelo...@news.net>  wrote:
>>>> "jacob navia"<ja...@spamsink.net>  wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
>>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
>>>>
>>>> So what?
>>>
>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?  Is
>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>> update?
>>
>> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>> own compiler.
>
> I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this 
> library.  So what's wrong with posting updates here?  Do you prefer 
> reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?

I know what is wrong with it.

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#22342

בתאריך יום שישי, 8 ביוני 2012 21:55:22 UTC+1, מאת Ian Collins:
> 
> I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this 
> library.  So what's wrong with posting updates here?  Do you prefer 
> reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?
> 
My own view is that C isn't the right language for generic containers
 libraries, partly because of the dependency problem, but partly
 because it's as easy to manipulate pointers on an ad hoc basis as to use an
 interface. I'm not sure whether that says something good or something bad
 about C.

But I don't have a problem with Jacob discussing his project here. Particuarly
 since he's started the process of trying to get the library standardised. It
 seems clearly topical.
-- 
Basic Algorithms - simple implementations of all the important container structures.
See my website: http://www.malcolmmclean.site11.com/www

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