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| Started by | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| First post | 2012-01-25 12:53 -0800 |
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Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-25 12:53 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-25 12:54 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-01-26 23:53 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? paolo <pc8875@nospam.mail.com.br> - 2012-02-02 20:03 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-02 15:22 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201202.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-02-03 11:35 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-03 08:24 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-03 12:39 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-06 11:14 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-06 06:16 -0500
Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:13 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 10:06 -0500
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:51 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 11:05 -0500
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 16:08 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 11:30 -0500
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-06 18:18 +0100
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 13:02 -0500
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 18:20 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-02-06 19:38 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 21:41 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-02-06 21:56 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-06 22:07 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 22:09 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-02-06 22:24 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-06 22:00 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-12 23:46 +0200
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 19:02 -0500
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 11:14 +0000
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-06 12:17 -0600
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-06 12:52 -0800
Re: Copyright Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 03:35 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-06 13:22 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-06 08:18 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-06 15:20 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 10:50 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 16:02 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-06 19:56 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-06 20:38 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-06 21:44 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-07 14:22 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-07 16:33 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-07 19:35 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-08 00:27 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-08 10:01 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-08 14:43 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? "osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2012-02-07 08:48 -0600
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-06 21:32 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-06 11:16 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 14:35 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201202.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-02-06 15:28 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 10:56 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-02-06 18:29 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-06 14:12 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-02-08 18:06 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-08 15:15 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-09 09:23 +1300
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 04:58 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-13 12:19 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-13 12:47 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-02-13 22:01 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-08 15:04 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-09 06:46 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 04:59 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-13 12:50 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-06 11:51 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 19:19 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-07 00:35 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2012-02-06 20:31 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-02-07 09:19 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 04:08 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-13 07:16 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201202.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-02-13 17:27 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-13 12:25 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-02-13 23:52 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-02-13 09:42 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201202.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-02-13 23:33 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 03:32 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-04 13:36 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-02-02 16:27 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-02-03 01:48 +0100
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-02-03 11:45 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2012-02-03 09:27 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-02-03 15:58 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-03 13:06 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-02-04 15:52 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-04 13:58 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-02-05 11:37 +0000
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-02-07 10:53 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-07 14:25 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-07 23:07 -0500
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-07 21:07 -0800
Re: Reasonably priced C11 standard? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-06 11:23 -0800
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| From | jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> |
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| Date | 2012-02-03 01:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jgfasj$omn$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #16642 |
Le 02/02/12 22:27, Rich Webb a écrit : > I picked up a PDF copy of C99 from INCITS http://www.incits.org/ a > couple of years ago for only $30 and now they want $220 and only the > printed version is available there while, as you note, ANSI still offers > a $30 PDF. Sheesh... > Note that the The Art of Computer Programming, Volumes 1-4A Boxed Set [Hardcover] costs only 200 US$. That puts that ridiculous price in perspective.
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| From | lawrence.jones@siemens.com |
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| Date | 2012-02-03 11:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <niftv8-fdf.ln1@jones.homeip.net> |
| In reply to | #16647 |
jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote: > > Note that the The Art of Computer Programming, Volumes 1-4A Boxed Set > [Hardcover] costs only 200 US$. That puts that ridiculous price in > perspective. Commercial books pricing has very little in common with standards pricing. Standards are priced solely based on page count with no consideration of potential sales. The average standard probably doesn't sell more than a dozen copies. If TAOCP only sold a dozen copies, it wouldn't be $200, either. INCITS understands that the potential market for computer language standards is much larger than that for other standards, particularly if priced reasonably. Since the production and distribution cost of an electronic document is essentially nil, they figured they'd make a lot more money selling them cheaply than expensively, which is what they've been doing. As far as I know, it's worked out even better than they'd hoped. -- Larry Jones I've got to start listening to those quiet, nagging doubts. -- Calvin
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| From | blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) |
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| Date | 2012-02-03 09:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87ehubq12v.fsf@blp.benpfaff.org> |
| In reply to | #16665 |
lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes: > INCITS understands that the potential market for computer language > standards is much larger than that for other standards, particularly if > priced reasonably. Since the production and distribution cost of an > electronic document is essentially nil, they figured they'd make a lot > more money selling them cheaply than expensively, which is what they've > been doing. As far as I know, it's worked out even better than they'd > hoped. Did they change that policy for 9899:2011? Or does that mean that they are going to lower the C11 price from $228 to something more reasonable, then? -- "A lesson for us all: Even in trivia there are traps." --Eric Sosman
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| From | lawrence.jones@siemens.com |
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| Date | 2012-02-03 15:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ucutv8-8mf.ln1@jones.homeip.net> |
| In reply to | #16666 |
Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> wrote: > lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes: > > > INCITS understands that the potential market for computer language > > standards is much larger than that for other standards, particularly if > > priced reasonably. Since the production and distribution cost of an > > electronic document is essentially nil, they figured they'd make a lot > > more money selling them cheaply than expensively, which is what they've > > been doing. As far as I know, it's worked out even better than they'd > > hoped. > > Did they change that policy for 9899:2011? Or does that mean > that they are going to lower the C11 price from $228 to something > more reasonable, then? The $228 document is the ISO document that they're reselling -- I think most of that money goes to ISO. Once it's adopted as an ANSI standard, NCITS has the right to produce and sell their own version, which should be reasonably priced. I'm not sure how long it takes to grind through the administrative process until that happens, but nothing is done quickly in the standards world. -- Larry Jones I think we need to change the rules. -- Calvin
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| From | William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> |
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| Date | 2012-02-03 13:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8sutv8-vs4.ln1@wilbur.25thandClement.com> |
| In reply to | #16665 |
lawrence.jones@siemens.com wrote: > jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> wrote: > > > > Note that the The Art of Computer Programming, Volumes 1-4A Boxed Set > > [Hardcover] costs only 200 US$. That puts that ridiculous price in > > perspective. > Commercial books pricing has very little in common with standards > pricing. Standards are priced solely based on page count with no > consideration of potential sales. I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, and they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. My guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a single software standard document. There may be multiple documents to any standard, though. One small consolation is that amendments and corrigenda tend to be free. Sometimes that's all you need. But having the standard can saves many hours of effort; so the money spent is usually worth it when you know you could use the document. What makes these paywalls distasteful is that sometimes you don't know what you don't know. What's more offensive than the price, per se, is the frustration and ignorance engendered.
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| From | lawrence.jones@siemens.com |
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| Date | 2012-02-04 15:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1di009-i1n.ln1@jones.homeip.net> |
| In reply to | #16671 |
William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote: > > I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, and > they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. My > guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a single > software standard document. The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges). Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket. -- Larry Jones Whatever it is, it's driving me crazy! -- Calvin
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2012-02-04 13:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ln8vkip8fl.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> |
| In reply to | #16684 |
lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes:
> William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, and
>> they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. My
>> guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a single
>> software standard document.
>
> The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges).
> Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket.
It's a PDF. Surely it could be configured as a single page 8.5 inches
wide and 642 feet 7 inches long (length based on N1570 draft).
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2012-02-05 11:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jglpmh$7sg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16686 |
"Keith Thompson" <kst-u@mib.org> wrote in message news:ln8vkip8fl.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org... > lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes: >> William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, >>> and >>> they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. >>> My >>> guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a >>> single >>> software standard document. >> >> The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges). >> Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket. > > It's a PDF. Surely it could be configured as a single page 8.5 inches > wide and 642 feet 7 inches long (length based on N1570 draft). That would be too unwieldy. You just have to use one normal-sized page (eg. A4 or 8.5x11), but a microscopic font size. -- Bart
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| From | lawrence.jones@siemens.com |
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| Date | 2012-02-07 10:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g1u709-b93.ln1@jones.homeip.net> |
| In reply to | #16686 |
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> wrote: > lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes: > > William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote: > >> > >> I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, and > >> they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. My > >> guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a single > >> software standard document. > > > > The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges). > > Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket. > > It's a PDF. Surely it could be configured as a single page 8.5 inches > wide and 642 feet 7 inches long (length based on N1570 draft). Sorry, they have to be ISO standard A4 pages. (Although, come to think of it, I believe I gave them US standard letter pages. I assume they edited the PDF to make them A4 pages instead.) -- Larry Jones My "C-" firmly establishes me on the cutting edge of the avant-garde. -- Calvin
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2012-02-07 14:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ln7gzynuvg.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> |
| In reply to | #16844 |
lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes:
> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>> lawrence.jones@siemens.com writes:
>> > William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, and
>> >> they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI websites. My
>> >> guess is that's the standard price for the most recent version of a single
>> >> software standard document.
>> >
>> > The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges).
>> > Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket.
>>
>> It's a PDF. Surely it could be configured as a single page 8.5 inches
>> wide and 642 feet 7 inches long (length based on N1570 draft).
>
> Sorry, they have to be ISO standard A4 pages. (Although, come to think
> of it, I believe I gave them US standard letter pages. I assume they
> edited the PDF to make them A4 pages instead.)
Oh well, it was worth a shot.
My copy of the C90 standard (which is a PDF that appears to have been
scanned from a paper copy) is in US letter format, 8.5 x 11 inches.
My copy of the C9 standard is A4. I bought both from ANSI.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2012-02-07 23:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4F31F51E.2122@mindspring.com> |
| In reply to | #16874 |
Keith Thompson wrote: > My copy of the C90 standard (which is a PDF that appears to have been > scanned from a paper copy) is in US letter format, 8.5 x 11 inches. I have this one: 3955.pdf I can copy and paste from it, while reading it in an Acrobat reader. AS 3955—1991 ISO/IEC 9899: 1990 Australian Standard Programming languages—C ANSI Store order #X194129 Downloaded: 6/7/2005 3:23:54 PM ET Single user license only. Copying and networking prohibited. This Standard was prepared by the Standards Australia Committee on Information Systems— Vocabulary and Software. It is identical with and has been reproduced from ISO/IEC 9899:1990 Programming languages— C. -- pete
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2012-02-07 21:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <lnd39pnc9x.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> |
| In reply to | #16908 |
pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson wrote:
>
>> My copy of the C90 standard (which is a PDF that appears to have been
>> scanned from a paper copy) is in US letter format, 8.5 x 11 inches.
>
> I have this one: 3955.pdf
>
> I can copy and paste from it,
> while reading it in an Acrobat reader.
>
> AS 3955—1991
> ISO/IEC 9899: 1990
> Australian Standard
> Programming languages—C
>
> ANSI Store order #X194129 Downloaded: 6/7/2005 3:23:54 PM ET
> Single user license only. Copying and networking prohibited.
>
> This Standard was prepared by the Standards Australia Committee
> on Information Systems—
> Vocabulary and Software.
> It is identical with and has been reproduced
> from ISO/IEC 9899:1990 Programming languages— C.
I can copy and paste from my copy too; it looks like some optical
character recognition was done. But if I zoom in on the text,
I can see artifacts that make it clear that it was scanned from a
printed copy -- and copy-and-pasting tends to produce errors with
similar-looking characters, like '.' vs. ','.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> |
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| Date | 2012-02-06 11:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ptl509-5n2.ln1@wilbur.25thandClement.com> |
| In reply to | #16684 |
lawrence.jones@siemens.com wrote: > William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandclement.com> wrote: > > > > I've purchased several different ISO standards in the past few years, > > and they've all been approximately 238CHF on both the ISO and ANSI > > websites. My guess is that's the standard price for the most recent > > version of a single software standard document. > The price is determined by the page count (not per page but by ranges). > Most software standards probably fall into the same bucket. FWIW, an ISO sales representative rather conspicuously told me that page count is _one_ of the price determinants. Lord knows what the other determinants are, or their weight. I was curious because my CHF 238 documents range from under 200 to over 1200 pages. The sales rep also said that 238 is now the maximum price. I'm not sure what to think of that. Some standards have several principal documents which each list for 238 or thereabouts.
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