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| Started by | Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2019-09-30 14:02 +0200 |
| Last post | 2019-10-05 14:08 -0700 |
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alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 14:02 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 16:09 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-09-30 17:29 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 17:33 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2019-09-30 17:12 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 16:16 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2019-09-30 17:30 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 16:44 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 00:36 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 06:28 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 16:08 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 15:42 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-09-30 14:30 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2019-09-30 17:33 +0300
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-09-30 16:56 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-09-30 15:29 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 17:31 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-01 07:03 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 10:57 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-01 18:49 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 21:20 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-10-01 20:39 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 04:15 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 06:28 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 04:29 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-09-30 11:14 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 18:04 +0200
Re: alloca()-support William Ahern <william@25thandClement.com> - 2019-09-30 11:01 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 07:19 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-09-30 22:26 +0300
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-09-30 19:46 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 07:32 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-10-01 09:08 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 08:35 +0200
Re: alloca()-support gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-09-30 16:26 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 18:48 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 18:51 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 18:55 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 18:58 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 19:53 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-09-30 11:13 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-10-06 06:16 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-06 16:22 +0300
Re: alloca()-support Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-10-06 12:58 -0700
Re: alloca()-support "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-10-06 13:16 -0700
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-09-30 19:38 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 07:41 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-10-01 15:19 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 17:31 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-01 18:58 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 21:24 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 04:28 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 06:30 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 04:36 +0000
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-02 10:01 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 04:42 +0000
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-02 10:10 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 15:13 +0200
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-01 21:10 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 21:25 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-10-01 20:44 +0000
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-01 23:26 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-10-01 21:08 -0600
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-02 10:19 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 06:39 +0200
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-02 10:34 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 15:14 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-02 15:18 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 15:21 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-03 04:09 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-03 07:48 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-03 05:49 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-03 07:52 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-10-03 06:46 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-03 10:59 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-10-03 13:39 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-10-03 13:23 +0000
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-03 15:38 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-10-03 14:51 +0000
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-04 09:49 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-10-03 21:47 +0200
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-04 09:53 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-10-03 21:52 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 07:39 +0200
Re: alloca()-support James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-09-30 21:36 -0400
Re: alloca()-support Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2019-09-30 19:14 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 19:16 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-10-01 00:18 -0500
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 07:43 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-10-01 02:42 -0700
Re: alloca()-support James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-10-01 08:11 -0400
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-10-01 14:53 +0200
Re: alloca()-support scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-09-30 17:52 +0000
Re: alloca()-support Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-09-30 11:20 -0600
Re: alloca()-support Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-09-30 19:42 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 20:02 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 19:54 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-09-30 14:28 -0600
Re: alloca()-support David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-10-01 09:38 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-09-30 20:01 +0200
Re: alloca()-support Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2019-10-01 17:45 +0200
Re: alloca()-support "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 02:35 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 16:26 +0300
Re: alloca()-support jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-10-02 08:00 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-03 02:38 +0300
Re: alloca()-support jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-10-03 08:42 -0700
Re: alloca()-support "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-10-02 12:33 -0700
Re: alloca()-support Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-10-03 01:47 +0300
Re: alloca()-support "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-10-05 14:08 -0700
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| From | Manfred <noname@add.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-10-01 17:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qmvsaf$1ffu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #146461 |
On 9/30/2019 8:01 PM, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 30/09/2019 19:20, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> writes:
>>
>>> On 30/09/2019 14:02, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> I know alloca() neither is an official part of the C nor C++
>>>> program-
>>>> ming-language. But I use it for performance-reasons. Can anyone name
>>>> compilers that don't support alloca()?
>>>
>>>
>>> sorry, mine is not an answer but a related question
>>>
>>> Since when (if at any time) was variable size automatic array
>>> supported ?
>>>
>>> I mean a temporary array local to a function whose size becomes known
>>> only at runtime (seems to me a generalization of variadic functions,
>>> which, too, does not know at compile time how much stack space will
>>> consume).
>>>
>>> If implemented, It seems equivalent to alloca () ... is it there some
>>> limitation then in ORDER of automatic variable creations ?
>>
>> There is no such limitation on your C program. The VLA can be first,
>> last, or in the middle. And you can have more than one of them.
>>
>> Where in the activation record a compiler chooses to put it is, AFAIK,
>> not specified.
>>
>
>
> I have QT that does not supports them, but, if sb would be so kind to
> copy a minimal asm generated code for some
>
> int Funz (int A, int B)
> {
> int C = 3;
> int Buf [A];
> int D = 2;
> Buf [A-1] = B;
> return (A + B * D - C);
> }
>
> int main (void)
> {
> return Funz (4, 3);
> }
>
> I'd like to examine the assembler generated in order to figure out how
> Buf (and D, beyond it apparently) are addressed
>
> ah, if not to annoying, TURNING OFF most if not all optimizationz (maybe
> the example is too minimal to be sort of resolved at compile time :\)
>
> tnx in advance
>
AFAIU this is a feature of the language and compiler, not of QT, so
probably your limitation is not because you use QT per se, but instead
because C++ does not have VLAs.
Trying to force VLAs via asm in C++ would probably open a can of worms
not worth the benefit.
A more viable alternative could be having the code that needs VLAs
implemented in C modules linked to C++, or switch to std::vector.
If it is directly coupled to QT itself, e.g. GUI handlers, then the
performance gap of using std::vector is most probably neglectable.
(and, of course, there still is _alloca() if it is supported by the
compiler)
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-02 02:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <qn1r0n$b77$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #146432 |
On 9/30/2019 5:02 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: > I know alloca() neither is an official part of the C nor C++ program- > ming-language. But I use it for performance-reasons. Can anyone name > compilers that don't support alloca()? Fwiw, the last time I use alloca was to offset threads stacks, using a thread id, to get around the 64k aliasing problem on old Intel hyperthreaded processors. It was needed to get around false sharing wrt thread stacks! alloca was a simple convenience hack to get the damn job done. Iirc, it was mentioned in an Intel paper. Well, I have something even more hackish. The region allocator that can be stack based. It can be fed with memory reaped from alloca: http://pastebin.com/raw/f37a23918 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.lang.c/7oaJFWKVCTw/sSWYU9BUS_QJ
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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-02 16:26 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20191002162609.52a3f122331a7c7dd7040fe6@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #146529 |
Chris M. Thomasson: > Well, I have something even more hackish. The region > allocator that can be stack based. It can be fed with > memory reaped from alloca: > http://pastebin.com/raw/f37a23918 I find it hard to comprehend because the code has no comments and uses macros extensively. Do I understand aright that you have written, as it were, a secondary memory manager that uses a C memory block instead of RAM and does not support deallocation except by flushing the whole thing? When is it more convenient than, say, local fixed arrays for dynamic structures of limited size? -- () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived]
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| From | jadill33@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-10-02 08:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9fa88375-81de-45bf-a471-2fdc8b3dc86a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #146535 |
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:26:18 AM UTC-4, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson:
>
> > Well, I have something even more hackish. The region
> > allocator that can be stack based. It can be fed with
> > memory reaped from alloca:
> > http://pastebin.com/raw/f37a23918
>
> I find it hard to comprehend because the code has no
> comments and uses macros extensively. Do I understand
> aright that you have written, as it were, a secondary memory
> manager that uses a C memory block instead of RAM and does
> not support deallocation except by flushing the whole thing?
>
> When is it more convenient than, say, local fixed arrays for
> dynamic structures of limited size?
Here is a snippet of some code I've played with of an algorithm that
uses small buffer optimization using region allocators. The idea is to
trade space for speed by allocating stack space in your algorithm,
attempt to allocate from it and if it fails, switches to use malloc.
Of course with anything like this, you trade simplicity and additional
maintenance costs to try to get more performance, so YMMV.
\code snippet
int r_levenshtein( const char* s1, const char* s2 );
size_t small_buffer_optimization = 0;
struct string_pair
{
char* lhs;
char* rhs;
};
int main( void )
{
int distance;
char tmp_str[40];
size_t idx;
struct string_pair tests[] =
{
{ "kitten", "sitting" },
{ "gamble", "gumbo" },
{ "accomodate", "accommodate" },
{ "mispell", "misspell" },
{ "pasttime", "pastime" },
{ "barbecue", "barbeque" },
{ "beleive", "believe" },
{ "Saturday", "Sunday" },
{ "levenshtein", "meilenstein" },
{ "strawberry", "raspberry" },
{ "null", "" },
{ "", "empty" },
{ "", "" },
{ "identical", "identical" },
};
printf( " -----------------------------------------------------\n" );
printf( "| LHS | RHS | Levenshtein |\n" );
printf( " -----------------------------------------------------\n" );
for ( idx = 0; idx < c_sizeof_array (tests); ++idx )
{
distance = r_levenshtein( tests[idx].lhs, tests[idx].rhs );
snprintf( tmp_str, sizeof (tmp_str), "\"%s\"", tests[idx].lhs );
printf( " %-17s", tests[idx].lhs ? tmp_str : "(null)" );
snprintf( tmp_str, sizeof (tmp_str), "\"%s\"", tests[idx].rhs );
printf( " %-17s", tests[idx].rhs ? tmp_str : "(null)" );
printf( " %d\n", distance );
}
printf( "\n" );
printf( "small buffer optimization count = %" PRIuSIZE "\n",
small_buffer_optimization );
return 0;
}
int r_levenshtein( const char* s1, const char* s2 )
{
int distance;
size_t m, n;
int* proximity_matrix;
struct c_region pm_region;
unsigned char pm_workspace[sizeof (int) * 64];
bool c_malloc_used = false;
c_return_value_if_fail( s1 != NULL, -1 );
c_return_value_if_fail( s2 != NULL, -1 );
m = strlen( s1 );
n = strlen( s2 );
/* If one of the strings is empty "", the edit distance is equal to
the length of the non-empty string. */
if ( m == 0 || n == 0 ) {
return m + n;
}
c_region_initialize( &pm_region, pm_workspace, sizeof pm_workspace );
++m;
++n;
proximity_matrix = c_region_allocate( &pm_region,
sizeof (int) * m * n,
alignof (int) );
if ( proximity_matrix == NULL )
{
proximity_matrix = c_malloc( sizeof (int) * m * n );
c_malloc_used = true;
}
else {
++small_buffer_optimization;
}
if ( proximity_matrix )
{
gc_compute_levenshtein_matrix( proximity_matrix, m, n, s1, s2 );
distance = proximity_matrix[m*n-1];
if ( c_malloc_used ) {
c_free( proximity_matrix );
}
}
else {
distance = -1;
}
return distance;
}
\endcode
Best regards,
John D.
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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-03 02:38 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20191003023833.b8a5eaa935db4ea86a3356f0@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #146537 |
John D.: > Here is a snippet of some code I've played with of an > algorithm that uses small buffer optimization using region > allocators. The idea is to trade space for speed by > allocating stack space in your algorithm, attempt to > allocate from it and if it fails, switches to use malloc. > Of course with anything like this, you trade simplicity > and additional maintenance costs to try to get more > performance, so YMMV. > [...] My mileage in that land is zero, but I should start with something like int levenstein( int** buf, char* a, char* b ); where buf is a geometrically growing block allocated on the heap. If it is too small, the function shall realloc() it by a constant factor or by len(a) * len(b), depending on which is greater. With this approach, the number of reallocations is asymptotically zero. -- () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived]
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| From | jadill33@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-10-03 08:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1a2c63f9-49c6-40b5-a795-6fee108caf45@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #146540 |
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 7:38:41 PM UTC-4, Anton Shepelev wrote: > John D.: > > > Here is a snippet of some code I've played with of an > > algorithm that uses small buffer optimization using region > > allocators. The idea is to trade space for speed by > > allocating stack space in your algorithm, attempt to > > allocate from it and if it fails, switches to use malloc. > > Of course with anything like this, you trade simplicity > > and additional maintenance costs to try to get more > > performance, so YMMV. > > [...] > > My mileage in that land is zero, but I should start with > something like > > int levenstein( int** buf, char* a, char* b ); > > where buf is a geometrically growing block allocated on the > heap. If it is too small, the function shall realloc() it > by a constant factor or by len(a) * len(b), depending on > which is greater. With this approach, the number of > reallocations is asymptotically zero. Sure, if you're willing to maintain that heap allocation for the entire lifetime of any task that needs use of a levenshtein call. I don't particularly like holding onto a global memory workspace between independent function calls because managing the lifetime of that memory can become an issue, e.g. you have a bunch of dictionary comparisons that use small memory but every once in a while a large one comes in. How long do you want to maintain the memory overhead? It's the same issue with regions where one object hangs around, so the entire region is maintained even though the utilization of that memory is low. Your option is a valid one to consider though if the use case fits. For the most part, I responded cause I feel its a viable alternative to using alloca. Best regards, John D.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-02 12:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <qn2u1n$1m5p$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #146535 |
On 10/2/2019 6:26 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson: > >> Well, I have something even more hackish. The region >> allocator that can be stack based. It can be fed with >> memory reaped from alloca: >> http://pastebin.com/raw/f37a23918 > > I find it hard to comprehend because the code has no > comments and uses macros extensively. Do I understand > aright that you have written, as it were, a secondary memory > manager that uses a C memory block instead of RAM and does > not support deallocation except by flushing the whole thing? Will have more time to get back to you later on tonight. However, take a deep look at reaps: https://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/pubs/berger-oopsla2002.pdf > > When is it more convenient than, say, local fixed arrays for > dynamic structures of limited size? >
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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-03 01:47 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20191003014754.39250b808212c3b7c3a755b3@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #146538 |
Chris M. Thomasson:
> Will have more time to get back to you later on tonight.
> However, take a deep look at reaps:
> https://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/pubs/berger-oopsla2002.pdf
Their meaning of heap refers the group's previous researh
(Heap Layers) rather than to the general usage of the term
w.r.t. computer memory organisation. Heap layers seem to
comprise a sort of hierarchical and flexibly composable
memory manager where each layer allocates and deallocates
memory from the layer on top (!) of it, implemented as a
mix-in "superclass", but I don't understand why mix-ins in
particular and OOP in general should be essential to this
architencture. The rationale that they provide in the two
articles seems to be equally valid for conventional
dependency inversion. Remeber at least the parser
combinators thread here (comp.lang.c) to see what level of
composability is possible in C.
This 12-page article devotes only a page-worth of space
(including diagrams) to the explanation of
reaps -- allegedly its central subject and the only original
contribution described. When an object on in the region
part of the reap dies, it goes to an associated heap, which
is used for subsequent allocations until exhausted, when the
reap continues to grow. How exactly it works with respect
to objects of variable size is unclear, and the only example
does not include the case of resurrections (allocations from
the heap part).
In fig. 3b, which fails to explain the meanig of arrows,
`sbrk' is connected only with RegionHeap. Does it mean that
LeaHeap is composed directly of the removed chunks in the
region area? if so, whence does it take the memory to store
its metadata, which can hardly be of constant or upper-
bounded size? In general, LeaHeap seems to operate on the
"holes" in the region in order to prevent growing the region
unless absolutely unavoidable. I wonder, therefore, if this
allcoator does not, after an initial period of region
growth, degrade to LeaHeap performance in case of an
approximately balanced alloc/free sequence, because
ClearOptimizedHeap, by definition, will then work with
LeaHeap most of the time.
My personal and, as usual, naive thought was to manage a
collection of custom relocatable pointers:
struct relpointer
{ void* _; };
or indirect poiners void**, and defragment the region from
time to time. The user will use these pointers and the
memory allocator will make sure survive the rearangement.
In order avoid double indirection at every pointer access, a
lock mechanism can be introduced to ensure that a pointer is
not relocated while the lock holds. Locks should guard
performace-critical secsions with intensive pointer access.
In order to avoid serious slow-downs due to this occasional
tidying-up, one could do it no more than one "hole" at a
time using a fancy algorithm of step-wise defragmentation,
where each step is a fast operation that decreases
fragmentaion in one of several ways:
1. by moving a hole up the stack, so that collapsing it
requires the relocation of a smaller memory block from
top of the region-stack,
2. by moving a hole up the stack to a place adjacent with
another hole,
3. by collapsing a hole (located sufficiently close to
top of stack) through shifting all the memory in front
of it to the left by the size of the hole,
4. by plugging a hole with a block or blocks of the same
total size somewhere up the stack,
5. by allocating the space of a hole for a new object of
the same size,
Existing algorithms for efficient real-time disk
defragmentation may serve as an inspiration.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-10-05 14:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <qnb0nj$odf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #146539 |
On 10/2/2019 3:47 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson:
>
>> Will have more time to get back to you later on tonight.
>> However, take a deep look at reaps:
>> https://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/pubs/berger-oopsla2002.pdf
[...]
I was using it for systems that did not have malloc. Here is a example
usage:
This region allocator does not force all allocations to be aligned up to
a so-called maximum alignment like `malloc' and friends are required to
do. For instance, allocations for a single char will not be forced to
waste the extra alignment space. This can have benefits in space
constrained environments (e.g., embedded devices). Also, its static in
nature and can be fed with a buffer residing on the stack. There are no
underlying calls to `malloc'. This can be useful in free standing
environments that do not support heap allocation. One other thing. Its a
pure region allocator which means you do not need to free individual
objects. You can free the entire region. This is more efficient than
calling `malloc()/free()' for each object. For instance, you can destroy
all the nodes in a linked list just by freeing the region(s) in which
the nodes were allocated from. There is no need to traverse the list to
free its nodes. Its a sort of "manual" garbage collection... ;^)
You can use it like:
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#include <ralloc.h>
struct foo {
struct foo* next;
};
#include <stdio.h>
void crunch() {
char local_buffer[1024];
struct region local_region;
struct foo* head1 = NULL;
struct foo* head2 = NULL;
size_t i, r;
rinit(&local_region, local_buffer, sizeof(local_buffer));
for (r = 0; r < 1024; ++r) {
size_t c = 0;
for (i = 0; i < 64; ++i) {
struct foo* foo = ralloct(&local_region, 2, struct foo);
if (foo) {
foo->next = head1;
head1 = foo;
++foo;
foo->next = head2;
head2 = foo;
c += 2;
}
}
while (head1) {
head1 = head1->next;
--c;
}
while (head2) {
head2 = head2->next;
--c;
}
assert(! c);
rflush(&local_region);
}
}
int main(void) {
crunch();
crunch();
crunch();
return 0;
}
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