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| First post | 2015-07-18 14:30 -0700 |
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Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 14:30 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-07-19 00:33 +0000
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 03:45 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-19 12:05 +0100
Re: Favorite programming languages luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 22:27 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-07-20 12:59 +0000
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:01 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-20 14:08 +0100
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:14 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:28 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-20 11:20 -0500
Re: Favorite programming languages Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-19 14:01 +0200
Re: Favorite programming languages fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 02:01 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 05:36 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 09:56 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 10:02 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 10:28 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 12:38 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-20 10:41 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 11:38 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 14:32 -0700
Re: Favorite programming languages "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 17:24 -0700
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-18 14:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Favorite programming languages |
| Message-ID | <f0480294-9c67-4cb2-8af0-12f9dae21b53@googlegroups.com> |
(1) C with a bit of C++. (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. (3) Assembly. For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable depending on what area I'm working on. If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has for me. He knows how much I desire to finish what I've started. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-19 00:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <moer87$40i$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #65866 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:30:12 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > (1) C with a bit of C++. > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently > Visual FreePro. (3) Assembly. INTERCAL.
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-19 03:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8fe4751b-64c7-4c78-89e7-2ab93f03fbf1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65875 |
What is your favorite programming language? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-19 12:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mog06c$qq0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65891 |
On 19/07/2015 11:45, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > What is your favorite programming language? In terms of the languages I use most, numbers (1) and (2) are my own. (3) would probably be C (out of necessity, as it gets everywhere). (4) is assembly. Other languages, I just tinker with. (Number (5) would be Fortran IV, but that was a long time ago.) The ones I remember making a deep impression were Algol68, Postscript and K (a derivative of APL I think), but only briefly used Postscript out of those. Some I admire at the moment include one or two of the functional languages, but would never use them. -- Bartc
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| From | luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-19 22:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2bb727eb-7a6c-4d23-859c-d1fdb41495df@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65891 |
On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 5:46:00 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > What is your favorite programming language? > > Best regards, > Rick C. Hodgin 1. C 2. Postscript 3. APL/Lisp/FP-stuff 4. Machine and Computation models in the above a. FAs, CAs, b. L-Systems, c. PDAs, d. Thue-Systems I loved Lego blocks as a child, poetry as a teenager, coffee as a ... post-teenager.
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| From | Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 12:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <moirb7$t3q$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #65891 |
On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:45:51 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > What is your favorite programming language? INTERCAL. I already told you.
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 06:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2cf5e780-d842-4493-8556-15bfd9f94d42@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65974 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-4, Jens Stuckelberger wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:45:51 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > What is your favorite programming language? > > INTERCAL. I already told you. Then perhaps I wasn't speaking to you at that point, but only to others. :-) Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 14:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <moirq6$895$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65975 |
On 20/07/15 14:01, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-4, Jens Stuckelberger wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:45:51 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> > What is your favorite programming language? >> >> INTERCAL. I already told you. > > Then perhaps I wasn't speaking to you at that point, but only to others. :-) By posting in comp.lang.c, you are addressing every subscriber in that group, including those that read the group but don't post to it. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ab423555-0005-4b18-babc-1b6525d0f6b5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65977 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 9:08:55 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 20/07/15 14:01, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-4, Jens Stuckelberger wrote: > >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:45:51 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > >> > What is your favorite programming language? > >> > >> INTERCAL. I already told you. > > > > Then perhaps I wasn't speaking to you at that point, but only > > to others. :-) > > By posting in comp.lang.c, you are addressing every subscriber in that > group, including those that read the group but don't post to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDgn4OTnjU Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 06:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <477089e3-9956-4a9c-a506-33919349df01@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65977 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 9:08:55 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 20/07/15 14:01, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-4, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:45:51 -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> > What is your favorite programming language?
> >>
> >> INTERCAL. I already told you.
> >
> > Then perhaps I wasn't speaking to you at that point, but only to others. :-)
>
> By posting in comp.lang.c, you are addressing every subscriber in that
> group, including those that read the group but don't post to it.
Here's something else for you (and the other subscribers to comp.lang.c,
including those who do not post) to ponder. It's a snippet from a movie
presented in a debate setting.
It explains a great many things that may be lacking in the general
worldly (un-churched) 2015 understanding:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFOw5ZYnqM
The message in short: "Tick tock. Tick tock."
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 11:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <moj7c5$jnc$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #65891 |
On 7/19/2015 5:45 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> What is your favorite programming language?
>
1. C, does pretty much everything, mostly custom tool friendly;
2. C++, like C with more features, but less reliable compiler support
and harder to process with custom tools;
3. Assembler, because if you have ASM at least you aren't totally SOL if
you need to do something funky;
4. C#, like Java but better designed, though kind of sucks on a
general-purpose tools/VM sense (IOW: use much outside of desktop PC
software);
5. Java, like C# but more portable, painful to use;
...
for my own use-cases, my own language(BGBScript) is reasonably high on
the list (but not used for the same things as C or C++):
pros:
can do most things C, C#, and Java can do in my uses;
mostly specialized to my development practices;
...
cons:
implementation tends towards being rather immature
(lots of bugs and incomplete features);
existing VM fails hard in some use-cases (*);
...
*: it is NOT well suited to resource-constrained targets or for
real-time use (IOW: use-cases where predictable microsecond-scale
latencies are needed).
I had started on a new language effort I was calling BGBScript-RT partly
for trying to better address this use-case (via using a different VM
design).
ATM, most of my development in this area (real-time motor-controls type
stuff) has been plain C, but even then I have ran into a few problems:
as-is, at about 1Hz, there seems to be a fairly regular 25ms delay;
I am not yet sure the cause of this delay, but it is interfering with
the correct operation of one of my machines (such as causing PWM to
briefly halt and the motor coils to saturate and pull excessive current).
IOW: once per second, the program seems to freeze for approx 25
milliseconds.
I am not entirely sure the cause as of yet, or the best way to address it.
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-19 14:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20150719140158.3644867a@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #65866 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:30:12 -0700 (PDT) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: > (1) C with a bit of C++. > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently > Visual FreePro. (3) Assembly. > 1. C/C++ I really can't program straight C anymore 2. Assembler 3. Google Go and rest follows... > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > depending on what area I'm working on. For web development I use JavaScript server side is C/C++/PHP. Assembler rarely used, and golang is my hobby language.
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 02:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7e7d7c1a-5af3-4933-93a4-ee0a0f932d6d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65866 |
W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > (1) C with a bit of C++. > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > (3) Assembly. > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > depending on what area I'm working on. > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > what I've started. > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably no thing more, ^^
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 05:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5e95871a-f344-45a6-a0c6-bacaea6b6162@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65964 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 5:01:51 AM UTC-4, fir wrote: > W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > > (3) Assembly. > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > > what I've started. > > > > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 > > with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably > no thing more, ^^ What are C2 and D2? Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 09:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5637d6c1-711f-48c5-9d1a-00a8ceb1328b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #65972 |
W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 14:36:35 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 5:01:51 AM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > > > (3) Assembly. > > > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > > > > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > > > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > > > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > > > what I've started. > > > > > > > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 > > > > with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably > > no thing more, ^^ > > What are C2 and D2? > C2 is much extended and repaired C on whose i work 10 years or so (i wrote on its features many times, mainly geting rid of headers and more suitable module support, improved struct passing, relocable and resizable array, more sugar etc etc).. d2 is somewhat optional yet automatized extension to c2 - no time to say on this here this time though
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 10:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a00b9700-5cf8-426f-b9e7-716cabfe16ac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #66019 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 12:56:45 PM UTC-4, fir wrote: > W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 14:36:35 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 5:01:51 AM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > > W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > > > > (3) Assembly. > > > > > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > > > > > > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > > > > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > > > > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > > > > what I've started. > > > > > > > > > > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 > > > > > > with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably > > > no thing more, ^^ > > > > What are C2 and D2? > > > C2 is much extended and repaired C on whose i work 10 years or so (i wrote on its features many times, mainly geting rid of headers and more suitable module support, improved struct passing, relocable and resizable array, more sugar etc etc).. d2 is somewhat optional yet automatized extension to c2 - no time to say on this here this time though If it's available somewhere I'd like to see it. Or if there's some kind of writeup on the changes. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 10:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <75c55a8b-f761-4994-9cc8-9e9e54ecd47e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #66021 |
W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 19:02:40 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 12:56:45 PM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 14:36:35 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 5:01:51 AM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > > > W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > > > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > > > > > (3) Assembly. > > > > > > > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > > > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > > > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > > > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > > > > > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > > > > > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > > > > > what I've started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 > > > > > > > > with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably > > > > no thing more, ^^ > > > > > > What are C2 and D2? > > > > > C2 is much extended and repaired C on whose i work 10 years or so (i wrote on its features many times, mainly geting rid of headers and more suitable module support, improved struct passing, relocable and resizable array, more sugar etc etc).. d2 is somewhat optional yet automatized extension to c2 - no time to say on this here this time though > > If it's available somewhere I'd like to see it. Or if there's some > kind of writeup on the changes. > mostly in my head (in such ideal form as it could get right now) - though each one idea was spaned on some usenet messy archives (could be used in spite of my sudden death)
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| From | fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 12:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <46678495-4118-43a1-8f9a-990a2928f658@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #66026 |
W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 19:28:16 UTC+2 użytkownik fir napisał: > W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 19:02:40 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 12:56:45 PM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > > W dniu poniedziałek, 20 lipca 2015 14:36:35 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 5:01:51 AM UTC-4, fir wrote: > > > > > W dniu sobota, 18 lipca 2015 23:30:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Rick C. Hodgin napisał: > > > > > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > > > > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and subsequently Visual FreePro. > > > > > > (3) Assembly. > > > > > > > > > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > > > > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > > > > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > > > > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lord is willing, I will proceed on my path > > > > > > of development on Visual FreePro, Jr., and RDC. If not, I look forward to the path He has > > > > > > for me. He knows how much I desire to finish > > > > > > what I've started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assembly, B, C, C on GPU, C2, D2 > > > > > > > > > > with other languages i got a bit being interested in javascript and probably > > > > > no thing more, ^^ > > > > > > > > What are C2 and D2? > > > > > > > C2 is much extended and repaired C on whose i work 10 years or so (i wrote on its features many times, mainly geting rid of headers and more suitable module support, improved struct passing, relocable and resizable array, more sugar etc etc).. d2 is somewhat optional yet automatized extension to c2 - no time to say on this here this time though > > > > If it's available somewhere I'd like to see it. Or if there's some > > kind of writeup on the changes. > > > mostly in my head (in such ideal form as it could get right now) - though each one idea was spaned on some usenet messy archives (could be used in spite of my sudden death) ps. will say on this later recent days interested in "gpu c" only (besides being exhausted again, but will back)
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| From | Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 10:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <kfny4ialoao.fsf@x-alumni2.alumni.caltech.edu> |
| In reply to | #65866 |
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes: > (1) C with a bit of C++. > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and > subsequently Visual FreePro. > (3) Assembly. > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > depending on what area I'm working on. This posting is not really suited to this newsgroup. I suggest comp.lang.misc instead.
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-20 11:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <af1c0727-734d-4439-82e9-4b146db57d67@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #66031 |
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 1:41:28 PM UTC-4, Tim Rentsch wrote: > "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes: > > > (1) C with a bit of C++. > > (2) XBASE languages, and specifically Visual Foxpro, and > > subsequently Visual FreePro. > > (3) Assembly. > > > > For general purpose apps, (1) and (2) may be > > reversed. For kernel development, (1) and (3) > > become (1) and (2), and are interchangeable > > depending on what area I'm working on. > > This posting is not really suited to this newsgroup. > I suggest comp.lang.misc instead. Thank you for your input. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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