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Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)

Started byRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
First post2026-07-27 11:43 -0700
Last post2026-08-21 17:43 +0200
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  Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 11:43 -0700
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-28 02:47 +0800
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:07 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 00:25 +0200
          Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:09 -0700
            Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:33 -0700
          Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:48 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:44 -0700
          You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:11 +0200
            Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:25 -0700
              Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:49 +0800
                Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:59 -0700
                I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:05 +0200
                  Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:09 +0200
                    New addition to π-WAM is π-WAM Assembly (Was: Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 19:45 +0200
                  Re: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 09:11 -0700
                    A yellow mustard called Rossy Body (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:30 +0200
                      Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Was: A yellow mustard called Rossy Body) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:31 +0200
            Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:32 +0200
              Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:36 -0700
              Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:43 +0200
                Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Was: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:47 +0200
                  comp.lang.lisp (was: Re: Forget any arithmetization of product FSA) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0800
                Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:53 -0700
              The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-21 11:33 +0200
                Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:43 +0800
                  Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-21 15:44 +0000
                    Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-09-21 16:19 +0000
                New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine [Navier Stokes] (Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 08:40 +0200
                  Pontifex Codex the idea of "right and natural" (Was: New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 09:22 +0200
                  Tristan Buckmaster was too quick? [Navier Stockes OpenAI] (Was: New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-10-13 23:21 +0200
                    Lean 4: Basically just Microsoft Advertising (Was: Lean versus Natural Language) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-10-15 11:29 +0200
            There are two versions of Hack VM (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:14 +0200
              Hack VM has also a Prolog spec (Was: There are two versions of Hack VM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:17 +0200
                A better compiler is planned / What do you target? (Was: Hack VM has also a Prolog spec) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:22 +0200
                  It’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-14 00:50 +0200
            Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-05 14:24 +0200
      A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:38 +0200
        Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:05 +0200
          Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 11:13 -0700
            I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:22 +0200
              Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:20 +0200
                You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:18 +0200
                  How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:56 +0200
            Postgres is in C! Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 03:46 +0800
              Re: Postgres is in C! Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 13:47 -0700
                Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:00 +0200
                  Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:05 +0800
                    Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-07-30 14:20 +0100
                    Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-30 14:46 +0000
                Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:05 +0200
                Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:20 +0800
                  Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:59 -0700
                    Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 07:24 -0700
                      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 09:58 +0800
                    Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 23:19 +0800
                      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:23 -0700
                        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:36 -0700
                          Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-07-30 17:54 +0100
                          Decorum (was: Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:07 +0800
                            Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:09 +0800
                            Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:36 -0700
                              Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:44 -0700
                              Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:38 +0800
                        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:15 +0800
                          Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:31 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 12:42 -0700
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:24 -0700
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:30 -0700
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:45 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 20:42 -0700
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:55 +0800
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:13 -0700
                                  Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:59 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:53 +0800
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 20:11 -0700
              Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:49 +0200
                A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Was: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:10 +0200
                  Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:27 +0200
                    Re: Bullshit Authorized by Sarah Connor [EyeProlog Failure] (Re: Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-12 20:30 +0200
                Crating Interpreters, Java part (was: Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!)) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:27 +0800
                  I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Crating Interpreters, Java part) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:32 +0200
                    For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:47 +0200
                      Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Was: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 20:04 +0200
                      Re: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 04:07 +0800
                    Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Crating Interpreters, Java part) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 03:49 +0800
                    MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:26 +0200
                      Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:41 +0200
                    Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-31 20:47 +0200
                    Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 14:37 +0200
                      More from the Trailer Park Boys (Re: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 19:42 +0200
                        Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-16 13:25 +0200
                          Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-19 13:18 +0200
                            Mathematical cheese versus "intuition" (Re: Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 10:27 +0200
                              A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem (Was: Mathematical cheese versus "intuition") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 16:05 +0200
                                The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 16:28 +0200
                      Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence" (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:02 +0200
                        The Ben Goertzel talkie genes (Re: Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:07 +0200
                          Philosophy Departments lead in GenAI Adoption? (Was: The Ben Goertzel talkie genes) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 20:14 +0200
                RCan library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:33 +0200
                Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:34 +0200
              Re: Postgres is in C! Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-29 21:23 +0000
                Turbo Vison, again (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:31 +0800
          I think Erlang is completely dead. And I repeat it. (Re: From short-cut parallelism to true parallelism [π-WAM Musings]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-29 03:11 +0200
          Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 23:41 +0200
          Is Bill Gates right that we will loose jobs [Talkie x Claw] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 23:42 +0200
            The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution] (Re: Is Bill Gates right that we will loose jobs [Talkie x Claw]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-04 11:50 +0200
              Rust Eggs for Statechart Proof Certificates? (Re: The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-05 14:19 +0200
                Axiom of Determinacy as SCXML × SCXML [AI Chatbot Help] (Re: Rust Eggs for Statechart Proof Certificates? (Re: The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-05 16:28 +0200
        He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:15 +0200
          Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:18 +0200
            NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:11 +0200
              NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:23 +0200
              First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..] (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-26 00:08 +0200
                Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog (Was: First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-31 18:01 +0200
                  Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case (Re: Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:53 +0200
                    Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting (Was: Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:54 +0200
                      Google holds the keys to the AI kingdom [WebClaw Dominance] (Re: Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 09:47 +0200
                  Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 18:19 +0200
                    Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux] (Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 18:58 +0200
                      Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Was: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-13 16:24 +0200
                        Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-13 16:42 +0200
                        Terrence Tao sold your soul to SAIR Goodfellas [E-graph problems!] (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-10-18 23:20 +0200
        Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-24 15:41 +0200
          What will microsoft say, will they buy it? (Was: Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-24 15:42 +0200
    Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 21:18 +0200
      Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:35 -0700
        Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0200
          Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 20:39 -0700
            confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:15 +0200
              Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:18 +0200
              Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:21 +0800
                In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:27 +0200
                  Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:40 +0800
                    Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Was: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:46 +0200
                      Graphics Processing with Fortran 77 (was: Re: Your strictness is your problem , not mine) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:10 +0800
                        I am not in C, it is theory and C++ [Hybrid Approaches from KOAN/Fortran-S] (Was: Graphics Processing with Fortran 77) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:43 +0200
                          Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: I am not in C, it is theory and C++) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:53 +0200
                  Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:48 +0200
                    Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:05 +0200
                      Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:22 +0200
                        Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Re: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:20 +0200
                          Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Re: Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:49 +0200
                        Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn [9-11 Math Incident] (Was: Accelerate Lean! From Theorem 3.11 to Corollary 3.12 [ZMC]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 20:41 +0200
                          Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 11:30 +0200
                            Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn) fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-12 12:02 +0200
                            Kurzweils prognostic failure [Nabokov Fallacy] (Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 12:12 +0200
                              Re: Kurzweils prognostic failure [Nabokov Fallacy] (Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges]) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-12 07:37 -0600
                              The future Numa Brains will be gorgeous (Was: Train yourself to become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-25 19:14 +0200
                                Estimating P(doom E-graphs) to < 10% (Was: The future Numa Brains will be gorgeous) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-28 14:13 +0200
                            Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-12 07:34 -0600
                          I found a picture of David Blackwell [NVIDIA Namesake] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn [9-11 Math Incident]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-10-16 23:20 +0200
                            I need a Sponsor for a new N1X [Windows ARM64 on the Rise] (Re: I found a picture of David Blackwell [NVIDIA Namesake]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-10-17 00:35 +0200
                Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:42 -0700
                  Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:37 +0200
                    Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:40 -0700
                      Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:43 -0700
                      You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Was: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:45 +0200
                      You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:46 +0200
                        Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Re: You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:09 +0200
                          Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 02:08 +0200
                            Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 11:55 -0700
                              You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:04 +0200
                                Re: You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:32 -0700
                                  You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop (Was: You are not correctly thinking) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:24 +0200
                                    You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:37 +0200
                                      Re: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 14:29 -0700
                                        Know nothing and forget what you posted day before (Was: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 23:38 +0200
      Kundalini II: Why I love DeepSeek (Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-13 17:03 +0200
        Warning: Inconsistencies can summon Waluigis (Re: Kundalini II: Why I love DeepSeek) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-14 11:52 +0200
      Kundalini III: Pebble Languages need Meme Evolution (Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-28 16:39 +0200
        Rogue Agents find each other [Microsoft Copilot Incident] (Re: Kundalini III: Pebble Languages need Meme Evolution) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-29 15:05 +0200
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:49 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 14:55 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 12:55 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 13:05 -0700
    Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:14 +0200
      Re: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 02:21 +0800
        pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:35 +0200
          A spinlock rewrite will be necessary (Was: pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:00 +0200
          Re: pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-24 20:17 +0200
          Doing uux with pi-calculus and WAM (Re: pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-24 20:17 +0200
            Does it have a declarative reading? (Re: Doing uux with pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-24 20:35 +0200
              MCP = uux with streaming JSON (Was: Does it have a declarative reading?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-24 22:25 +0200
      Big thanks to Ljubljana School [Searching 0xCAFFEE] (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:40 +0200
      The Paul Armer Square Revisited (Was: "Mathematics in the Age of AI") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-19 23:51 +0200
        Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited (Was: "Mathematics in the Age of AI") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 13:18 +0200
        Communism will Save Us! [Pivot Russia for China] (Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 14:22 +0200
          How to increase your "Convincingness" [Anthropic AI Text Hacked] (Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 19:38 +0200
            Reality of Proof Assistants / Coding [Luhmans Zettelkasten] (Re: Free Speech for (my) Robots) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 20:22 +0200
      Peking School versus Ljubljana School [Everything Is a Plugin] (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-21 17:43 +0200

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#402034 — Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Was: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-13 16:24 +0200
SubjectTerrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Was: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux])
Message-ID<1186bmi$4o8t$1@solani.org>
In reply to#401964
Hi,

Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:

Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/

Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
paradox of efficiency:

Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo

He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
by a helicopter. LoL

I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
These people are just morons.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
> has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
> a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
> 
> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
> its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
> x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
> the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
> have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
> functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
> embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
> CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
> https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
> 
> Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
> easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
> and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
> 
> "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
> 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
> optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
> https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
> 
> Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
> lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
> general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
> migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
> while data centers and experimental computing remain
> on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
> 
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
>> fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
>> the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.
>>
>> I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
>> pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
>> Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:
>>
>> "unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
>> cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
>> cores without melting a portable chassis, they
>> use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
>> mapped straight into a coherent memory space."
>>
>> Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80
>>
>> I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
>> So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
>> NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also
>>
>> stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
>> on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
>> above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.
>>
>> Have Fun everybody!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
>> who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
>> they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,
>>
>> who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
>> already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
>> and its all "Ultra" now.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  > Hi,
>>  >
>>  > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>>  > probably only believes the existence of a
>>  > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>>  >
>>  > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>>  > there and shitting his pants it seems.
>>  >
>>  > Bye
>>  >
>>  >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>>  >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>>  >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>>  >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>>  >
>>  > Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  >> Hi,
>>  >>
>>  >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>>  >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>>  >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>>  >>
>>  >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>>  >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>>  >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>>  >>
>>  >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>>  >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>>  >>
>>  >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>>  >>
>>  >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>>  >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>>  >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>>  >> landscape is forming.
>>  >>
>>  >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>>  >>
>>  >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>>  >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>>  >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>>  >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>>  >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>>  >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>>  >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>>  >>
>>  >> Bye
>>  >>
>>  >> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  >>> Hi,
>>  >>>
>>  >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>>  >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>>  >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>>  >>>
>>  >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>>  >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> **Mobile GPU:**
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Energy Consuption: Low
>>  >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>>  >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>>  >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>>  >>>
>>  >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Energy Consuption: High
>>  >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>>  >>>     has its own VRAM)
>>  >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Bye
>>  >>>
>>  >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>  >>>
>>  >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> 1 Shader
>>  >>> 1983 ms
>>  >>>
>>  >>> 4096 Shaders
>>  >>> 16253 ms
>>  >>>
>>  >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  >>>> Hi,
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>>  >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>>  >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> Shoe String Budget:
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>>  >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>>  >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>>  >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>>  >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>>  >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>>  >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>>  >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>>  >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>>  >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>>  >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>>  >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>>  >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>>  >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>>  >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>>  >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>>  >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>>  >>>> 
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>>  >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> Bye
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>  >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>  >
>>
> 

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#402037 — Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-13 16:42 +0200
SubjectBounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)
Message-ID<1186cph$4p26$4@solani.org>
In reply to#402034
Hi,

These issues are at the core of cognitive science
and artifical intelligence. A milestone was for
example the Cognitive Revolution, leaving behind

Skinners behaviorism of simple stimulus/response:

Cognitive Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_revolution

Herbert Simon took it into economics:

Bounded Rationality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounded_rationality

But system intelligence now talks of blast radius,
and looks at ecosystems of software repositories.
So its clearly not anymore individual psychology

nor single software agent problems, or individual
freedom and accountablity. We are in the mists of
rediscovering distributed artificial intelligence

research and social psychology. So a Terrence Tao
giving machete djungle advice on an individual level,
is surely a lame joke, to say the least.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. And as a
top mathematician he could surely do better!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
> Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:
> 
> Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
> https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/ 
> 
> 
> Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
> than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
> paradox of efficiency:
> 
> Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo
> 
> He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
> manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
> by a helicopter. LoL
> 
> I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
> slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
> These people are just morons.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
>> has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
>> a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
>>
>> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
>> its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
>> x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
>> the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
>> have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
>> functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
>> embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
>> CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
>> https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
>>
>> Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
>> easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
>> and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
>>
>> "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
>> 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
>> optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
>> https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
>>
>> Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
>> lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
>> general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
>> migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
>> while data centers and experimental computing remain
>> on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
>>
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
>>> fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
>>> the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.
>>>
>>> I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
>>> pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
>>> Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:
>>>
>>> "unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
>>> cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
>>> cores without melting a portable chassis, they
>>> use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
>>> mapped straight into a coherent memory space."
>>>
>>> Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80
>>>
>>> I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
>>> So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
>>> NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also
>>>
>>> stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
>>> on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
>>> above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.
>>>
>>> Have Fun everybody!
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
>>> who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
>>> they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,
>>>
>>> who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
>>> already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
>>> and its all "Ultra" now.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  > Hi,
>>>  >
>>>  > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>>>  > probably only believes the existence of a
>>>  > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>>>  >
>>>  > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>>>  > there and shitting his pants it seems.
>>>  >
>>>  > Bye
>>>  >
>>>  >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>>>  >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>>>  >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>>>  >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>>>  >
>>>  > Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >> Hi,
>>>  >>
>>>  >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>>>  >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>>>  >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>>>  >>
>>>  >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>>>  >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>>>  >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>>>  >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>>>  >>
>>>  >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>>>  >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>>>  >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>>>  >> landscape is forming.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>>>  >>
>>>  >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>>>  >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>>>  >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>>>  >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>>>  >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>>>  >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>>>  >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Bye
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >>> Hi,
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>>>  >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>>>  >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>>>  >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> **Mobile GPU:**
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Energy Consuption: Low
>>>  >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>>>  >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>>>  >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Energy Consuption: High
>>>  >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>>>  >>>     has its own VRAM)
>>>  >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Bye
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 1 Shader
>>>  >>> 1983 ms
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 4096 Shaders
>>>  >>> 16253 ms
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >>>> Hi,
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>>>  >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>>>  >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Shoe String Budget:
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>>>  >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>>>  >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>>>  >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>>>  >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>>>  >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>>>  >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>>>  >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>>>  >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>>>  >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>>>  >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>>>  >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>>>  >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>>>  >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>>>  >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>>>  >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>>>  >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>>>  >>>> 
>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>>
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>>>  >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Bye
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>>  >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>>  >
>>>
>>
> 

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#403293 — Terrence Tao sold your soul to SAIR Goodfellas [E-graph problems!] (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-10-18 23:20 +0200
SubjectTerrence Tao sold your soul to SAIR Goodfellas [E-graph problems!] (Re: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)
Message-ID<11b3d7e$1lr0k$3@solani.org>
In reply to#402034
Hi,

Its worse than I thought. This is just a playground
to coerce you into a subscription platform sooner
or later. They uploaded an according YT video a few

hours ago. Note the fine print, the involved licenses
etc., they will practically own your content?

Open Math Model, initiated by SAIR Foundation
https://www.openmathmodel.org/

So there is the idea of "donate compute", by
infrastructure run by SAIR Foundation and selected
launch partners. Only for launch? LoL

Then I spotted a "funny guy", just like in
Pesci and De Niro Goodfellas, the guy waring
a funny polo shirt. And doing funny stuff

with E-graphs and co. Possibly related to the
magma research of Terrence Tao?

combo_jack | Reza Jamei
https://competition.sair.foundation/contributor-network/mathematics-distillation-challenge-equational-theories-stage1/EQT01-000092

But the capability of GPT-OSS 120B, is an open-weight
large language and reasoning model released by OpenAI
on August 5, 2025, under the Apache-2.0 license.

It solved like 88.4% for Hard 2 of the E-graph problems!
Only 66.3% success rate for the Hard 3 problems.
Gemini tells me it would cost less than $1 GPU

but requires something like a NVIDIA H100 hardware.

Bye


Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
> Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:
> 
> Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
> https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/ 
> 
> 
> Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
> than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
> paradox of efficiency:
> 
> Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo
> 
> He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
> manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
> by a helicopter. LoL
> 
> I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
> slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
> These people are just morons.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
>> has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
>> a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
>>
>> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
>> its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
>> x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
>> the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
>> have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
>> functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
>> embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
>> CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
>> https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
>>
>> Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
>> easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
>> and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
>>
>> "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
>> 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
>> optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
>> https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
>>
>> Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
>> lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
>> general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
>> migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
>> while data centers and experimental computing remain
>> on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
>>
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
>>> fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
>>> the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.
>>>
>>> I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
>>> pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
>>> Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:
>>>
>>> "unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
>>> cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
>>> cores without melting a portable chassis, they
>>> use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
>>> mapped straight into a coherent memory space."
>>>
>>> Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80
>>>
>>> I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
>>> So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
>>> NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also
>>>
>>> stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
>>> on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
>>> above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.
>>>
>>> Have Fun everybody!
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
>>> who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
>>> they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,
>>>
>>> who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
>>> already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
>>> and its all "Ultra" now.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  > Hi,
>>>  >
>>>  > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>>>  > probably only believes the existence of a
>>>  > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>>>  >
>>>  > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>>>  > there and shitting his pants it seems.
>>>  >
>>>  > Bye
>>>  >
>>>  >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>>>  >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>>>  >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>>>  >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>>>  >
>>>  > Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >> Hi,
>>>  >>
>>>  >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>>>  >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>>>  >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>>>  >>
>>>  >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>>>  >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>>>  >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>>>  >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>>>  >>
>>>  >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>>>  >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>>>  >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>>>  >> landscape is forming.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>>>  >>
>>>  >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>>>  >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>>>  >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>>>  >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>>>  >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>>>  >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>>>  >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Bye
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >>> Hi,
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>>>  >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>>>  >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>>>  >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> **Mobile GPU:**
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Energy Consuption: Low
>>>  >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>>>  >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>>>  >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Energy Consuption: High
>>>  >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>>>  >>>     has its own VRAM)
>>>  >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Bye
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 1 Shader
>>>  >>> 1983 ms
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> 4096 Shaders
>>>  >>> 16253 ms
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>  >>>> Hi,
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>>>  >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>>>  >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Shoe String Budget:
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>>>  >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>>>  >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>>>  >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>>>  >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>>>  >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>>>  >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>>>  >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>>>  >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>>>  >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>>>  >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>>>  >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>>>  >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>>>  >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>>>  >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>>>  >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>>>  >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>>>  >>>> 
>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>>
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>>>  >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Bye
>>>  >>>>
>>>  >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>>  >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>>  >
>>>
>>
> 

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#402357 — Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-24 15:41 +0200
SubjectFood for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])
Message-ID<119399l$a6b6$3@solani.org>
In reply to#400551
Hi,

Its really amazing how advanced the 80’s were concerning
the early expert system wave. You already found expert systems
or fault diagnosis systems, that sorted their abduction questions

via a clairvoyant value computation. It refers to a theoretical
benchmark in decision analysis, maintenance optimization,
and information economics. I didn’t find some highly visible

Prolog implementation yet, but I might be mistaken. s(CASP)
doesn’t have it yet right? Neither does Web Prolog mention
the concept yet? LLMs use clairvoyant value as well, obviously,

when they stir the dialog. Maybe as an emergent phaenomenon?

                   ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐
                   │ HOW LLMS VALUE PERFECT INFORMATION      │
                   └─────────────────────────────────────────┘
                                        │
          ┌─────────────────────────────┴──────────────────────────┐
          ▼                                                        ▼
┌─────────────────────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────────────────────┐
│       EXPLICIT SCAFFOLDING      │         │       EMERGENT PHENOMENON 
     │
├─────────────────────────────────┤ ├─────────────────────────────────┤
│ The architecture forces a VPI   │         │ Autoregressive next-token 
     │
│ calculation (e.g., using        │         │ prediction mirrors human 
    │
│ information entropy metrics).   │         │ cost-benefit dialogue.      │
└─────────────────────────────────┘ └─────────────────────────────────┘
One might spin the idea further and just say the valuation
doesn’t predict some physical system behaviour, but rather
reflects user preferences. See also:

Evaluating User-Agent Collaboration
https://arxiv.org/html/2608.27818v1

LLMs can be also bad clairvoyants:

LLMs Fail to Let Go
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.25337

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:
> 
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
> 
> Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > .. bla bla goto bla bla ..
>  >
>  > Stupid gangster:  teamsters are a union.
>  >
>  > In the trades, not the steals, ....
> 
> Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
> and not understanding the meaning and implications.
> Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.
> 
> But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
> champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
> a idiot usenet troll.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>> On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with some
>>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous 
>>> operations.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>
>> Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?  Rest assured,
>> the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
>> bugs.
>>
>>
>> Happy bughunting!
> 

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#402358 — What will microsoft say, will they buy it? (Was: Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-24 15:42 +0200
SubjectWhat will microsoft say, will they buy it? (Was: Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer)
Message-ID<11939bu$a6b6$4@solani.org>
In reply to#402357
Hi,

Disclaimer: While clairvoyant valuation has a heavy
math based literature, that can be based on a couple of
approaches from rational reasoning, the LLM literature
might be a little messy and less known,

so the above is what an LLM gave me. I didn't select and
only did cherry picking, to show the drift. EyeProlog is
also a little disappointing, more postulating some human
driven science loop, not a semi-automated experimenter?

The rigid bento forms logical english that requires
million mouse clicks, might also hit a wall, since LLMs
are smoother. Since Excel and VB already solved the "business-
user-readable rule" problem decades ago with localized

function names and cell references. Their solutions to
the textit feature itselfs, are probably more mature.
But given that Microsoft has its foot directly into AI
laptops and does their own model development,

there are only a few chances that they would be interested.
Maybe there are some take aways from a Prolog implementation
that they then will happily patent and reimplement on their
own, just like they didn't adopt Java but developed C#.

So every non AGI development is still an AGI development!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Its really amazing how advanced the 80’s were concerning
> the early expert system wave. You already found expert systems
> or fault diagnosis systems, that sorted their abduction questions
> 
> via a clairvoyant value computation. It refers to a theoretical
> benchmark in decision analysis, maintenance optimization,
> and information economics. I didn’t find some highly visible
> 
> Prolog implementation yet, but I might be mistaken. s(CASP)
> doesn’t have it yet right? Neither does Web Prolog mention
> the concept yet? LLMs use clairvoyant value as well, obviously,
> 
> when they stir the dialog. Maybe as an emergent phaenomenon?
> 
>                    ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐
>                    │ HOW LLMS VALUE PERFECT INFORMATION      │
>                    └─────────────────────────────────────────┘
>                                         │
>           ┌─────────────────────────────┴──────────────────────────┐
>           ▼                                                        ▼
> ┌─────────────────────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────────────────────┐
> │       EXPLICIT SCAFFOLDING      │         │       EMERGENT PHENOMENON 
>      │
> ├─────────────────────────────────┤ ├─────────────────────────────────┤
> │ The architecture forces a VPI   │         │ Autoregressive next-token 
>      │
> │ calculation (e.g., using        │         │ prediction mirrors human    │
> │ information entropy metrics).   │         │ cost-benefit dialogue.      │
> └─────────────────────────────────┘ └─────────────────────────────────┘
> One might spin the idea further and just say the valuation
> doesn’t predict some physical system behaviour, but rather
> reflects user preferences. See also:
> 
> Evaluating User-Agent Collaboration
> https://arxiv.org/html/2608.27818v1
> 
> LLMs can be also bad clairvoyants:
> 
> LLMs Fail to Let Go
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.25337
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:
>>
>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>
>> Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > .. bla bla goto bla bla ..
>>  >
>>  > Stupid gangster:  teamsters are a union.
>>  >
>>  > In the trades, not the steals, ....
>>
>> Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
>> and not understanding the meaning and implications.
>> Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.
>>
>> But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
>> champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
>> a idiot usenet troll.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>>> On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with 
>>>> some
>>>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>>>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous 
>>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>>>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>>>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>>>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>>>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?  Rest assured,
>>> the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
>>> bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy bughunting!
>>
> 

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#400448 — Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-27 21:18 +0200
SubjectRossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne)
Message-ID<1148aud$h9hf$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400446
Hi,

Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein.
He is not Einstein since Einstein is already dead:

Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
understand concepts such as:

- NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture

Also his hands are small, and his breath stinks,
and he lives in the basement of his mother.

Bye


Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> Thanks for reading.
> Good-day and good-bye.

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#400456 — Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-27 15:35 -0700
SubjectRe: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne)
Message-ID<9xicnbX51fo4QPr3nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#400448
On 07/27/2026 12:18 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein.
> He is not Einstein since Einstein is already dead:
>
> Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
>
> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
> understand concepts such as:
>
> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture
>
> Also his hands are small, and his breath stinks,
> and he lives in the basement of his mother.
>
> Bye
>
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>> Good-day and good-bye.

Hm, well I have a tobacco habit, and happen to live
in the same town as my saintly mother, not exactly
the basement, then my hands have a span of eight inches
since they are grown, close enough to make a natural measure,
and I have twenty-five plus years experience as a full dev
in the enterprise, or at least doing the job.

It's the same small town as a grandfather's,
you can call me Ross Lincoln or Ross Conway,
and I gave at the bank. It really kind of is
like a van, down by the river.

My other grandfather had three bronze stars and
a real purple heart, successful businessmen
I think of them. Newspapers, hotels, establishments, ....

Your digital twinning is like those "failures replicating Ripley".

Homey don't play that, ....


Then, also I have very firm opinions about what Zweistein says.





Shut Up, Burse-bot, Shut Up. Wiggly grimacing kimono rictus.
You hype-ing value-subtracting free-loading bloater.

"A tensor core is a unit that multiplies two 4×4 FP16 matrices, and then
adds a third FP16 or FP32 matrix to the result by using fused
multiply–add operations, and obtains an FP32 result that could be
optionally demoted to an FP16 result."

"The GPU is operating at a frequency of 1200 MHz, which can be boosted
up to 1455 MHz, memory is running at 848 MHz."

It's just 2048 threads wide picked from the bins after the defects.
Most systems simply don't include GPGPU's, they're considered extras.

They're considered really quite simple, each of those threads is simple,
SIMT.

Does it have a stable instruction set? No, it doesn't.

https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/parallel-thread-execution/index.html

"Last updated on Jun 25, 2026. "




This kind of Viswath & Charmaigne is considered the needful
for efficient text routines, on modern commodity hardware,
encodings, and algorithms. It's simple, portable, and performant.
The "findings and matchings" for "vector-wide scalar word" for
"character machines" is eventually very obvious to those skilled
in the field, and with very much: prior art.






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#400465 — Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-28 11:25 +0200
SubjectClueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein)
Message-ID<1149shs$i9f4$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400456
Hi,

Moron there is no SIMT. As I already wrote:

> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
> understand concepts such as:
> 
> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture 

But you had the SIMD and MIMD disctinction
alreay in OpenMP (via #pragma omp simd and
#pragma omp parallel(:

Flynn's Taxonomy classifies computer
architectures according to how many
instruction streams (processes) and
data streams they can process simultaneously,
dividing them into four categories:
SISD, SIMD, MISD, and MIMD.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/computer-organization-architecture/computer-architecture-flynns-taxonomy/

Its not so difficult to understand what
the NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> They're considered really quite simple, 
> each of those threads is simple, SIMT.

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#400499 — Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-28 20:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein)
Message-ID<kZOdnZEX-_Jt6PT3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#400465
On 07/28/2026 02:25 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Moron there is no SIMT. As I already wrote:
>
>> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
>> understand concepts such as:
>>
>> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture
>
> But you had the SIMD and MIMD disctinction
> alreay in OpenMP (via #pragma omp simd and
> #pragma omp parallel(:
>
> Flynn's Taxonomy classifies computer
> architectures according to how many
> instruction streams (processes) and
> data streams they can process simultaneously,
> dividing them into four categories:
> SISD, SIMD, MISD, and MIMD.
> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/computer-organization-architecture/computer-architecture-flynns-taxonomy/
>
>
> Its not so difficult to understand what
> the NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture.
>
> Bye
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> They're considered really quite simple, each of those threads is
>> simple, SIMT.

Mein Hut hat drei Ecken

Drei Ecken hat mein Hut


Three models of continuous domains,
three laws of large numbers,
three models of Cantor spaces,
three laws of limit theorems,
three probabilistic limit theorems,
three uniform distributions of the naturals,
....


Drei Ecken hat mein Hut.

This is with infinity and continuity,
SIMT is a worker pool.


Zero paradoxes.


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#400504 — confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 11:15 +0200
Subjectconfused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy])
Message-ID<114cgat$k0r4$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400499
Hi,

Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
not building a stupid web server, where
a listener thread spawns service threads,

and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
The producer and consumer example I posted

elsewhere archived a dataflow without
malloc and free of threads. You are miles
away from what we are doing here.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> On 07/28/2026 02:25 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Moron there is no SIMT. As I already wrote:
>>
>>> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
>>> understand concepts such as:
>>>
>>> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture
>>
>> But you had the SIMD and MIMD disctinction
>> alreay in OpenMP (via #pragma omp simd and
>> #pragma omp parallel(:
>>
>> Flynn's Taxonomy classifies computer
>> architectures according to how many
>> instruction streams (processes) and
>> data streams they can process simultaneously,
>> dividing them into four categories:
>> SISD, SIMD, MISD, and MIMD.
>> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/computer-organization-architecture/computer-architecture-flynns-taxonomy/ 
>>
>>
>>
>> Its not so difficult to understand what
>> the NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> They're considered really quite simple, each of those threads is
>>> simple, SIMT.
> 
> Mein Hut hat drei Ecken
> 
> Drei Ecken hat mein Hut
> 
> 
> Three models of continuous domains,
> three laws of large numbers,
> three models of Cantor spaces,
> three laws of limit theorems,
> three probabilistic limit theorems,
> three uniform distributions of the naturals,
> ....
> 
> 
> Drei Ecken hat mein Hut.
> 
> This is with infinity and continuity,
> SIMT is a worker pool.
> 
> 
> Zero paradoxes.
> 
> 
> 

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#400506 — Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 11:18 +0200
SubjectGemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)
Message-ID<114cgi1$k0r4$2@solani.org>
In reply to#400504
Hi,

I already posted the candidate MPMC queue
to do these things. But my research is
not yet conclusive:

> Its actually quite amazing. Gemini, DeepSeek,
> OpenAI all know Dmitriy V'jukov. I have asked
> the IntelliJ integrated Freeium AI to generate
> 
> some code for me, I guess their service uses
> by default OpenAI (Codex), and had it reviewed
> by Gemini and DeepSeek. These AIs started lecturing
> 
> me about lazySet() in Java. But I went with set():
> 
>     private static boolean enqueue(Queue q, Object data) {
>         int pos = q.enqueuePos.get();
>         for (; ; ) {
>             int index = pos & q.bufferMask;
>             int seq = q.sequences.get(index);
>             int dif = seq - pos;
>             if (dif == 0) {
>                 if (q.enqueuePos.compareAndSet(pos, pos + 1)) {
>                     q.data[index] = data;
>                     q.sequences.set(index, pos + 1);
>                     return true;
>                 }
>                 pos = q.enqueuePos.get();
>             } else if (dif < 0) {
>                 return false;
>             } else {
>                 pos = q.enqueuePos.get();
>             }
>         }
>     }
> 
> The above version seems to be more suitable
> for my purpose, since it allows polling, it
> basically implements offer(). While the
> 
> version posted on in the lock free group
> by Chris M. Thomasson implements a spin wait
> blocking put() already. 

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
> not building a stupid web server, where
> a listener thread spawns service threads,
> 
> and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
> a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
> The producer and consumer example I posted
> 
> elsewhere archived a dataflow without
> malloc and free of threads. You are miles
> away from what we are doing here.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On 07/28/2026 02:25 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Moron there is no SIMT. As I already wrote:
>>>
>>>> He is also not Zweistein, since he doesn't
>>>> understand concepts such as:
>>>>
>>>> - NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture
>>>
>>> But you had the SIMD and MIMD disctinction
>>> alreay in OpenMP (via #pragma omp simd and
>>> #pragma omp parallel(:
>>>
>>> Flynn's Taxonomy classifies computer
>>> architectures according to how many
>>> instruction streams (processes) and
>>> data streams they can process simultaneously,
>>> dividing them into four categories:
>>> SISD, SIMD, MISD, and MIMD.
>>> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/computer-organization-architecture/computer-architecture-flynns-taxonomy/ 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its not so difficult to understand what
>>> the NVIDIA Volta ff. architecture.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> They're considered really quite simple, each of those threads is
>>>> simple, SIMT.
>>
>> Mein Hut hat drei Ecken
>>
>> Drei Ecken hat mein Hut
>>
>>
>> Three models of continuous domains,
>> three laws of large numbers,
>> three models of Cantor spaces,
>> three laws of limit theorems,
>> three probabilistic limit theorems,
>> three uniform distributions of the naturals,
>> ....
>>
>>
>> Drei Ecken hat mein Hut.
>>
>> This is with infinity and continuity,
>> SIMT is a worker pool.
>>
>>
>> Zero paradoxes.
>>
>>
>>
> 

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#400507 — Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy])

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-29 17:21 +0800
SubjectRe: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy])
Message-ID<vCjaS.10327$1xtd.5540@fx01.ams4>
In reply to#400504
On 29/07/2026 5:15 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
> not building a stupid web server, where
> a listener thread spawns service threads,
> 
> and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
> a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
> The producer and consumer example I posted
> 
> elsewhere archived a dataflow without
> malloc and free of threads. You are miles
> away from what we are doing here.

Why not?  Isn't this comp.lang.c?  And isn't that exactly how
CivetWeb works internally?  Have you never built your own web
sever in C?  Not even with CivetWeb?  It's really easy!  You
only need to implement a callback or two.

-- 
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I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com

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#400508 — In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 11:27 +0200
SubjectIn AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)
Message-ID<114ch1n$k1i9$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400507
Hi,

Nobody cares about CivetWeb a C++/C library,
the rossy boy moron refuses to understand this
simple GPU test, that shows some AI Acceleration:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
> On 29/07/2026 5:15 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
>> not building a stupid web server, where
>> a listener thread spawns service threads,
>>
>> and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
>> a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
>> The producer and consumer example I posted
>>
>> elsewhere archived a dataflow without
>> malloc and free of threads. You are miles
>> away from what we are doing here.
> 
> Why not?  Isn't this comp.lang.c?  And isn't that exactly how
> CivetWeb works internally?  Have you never built your own web
> sever in C?  Not even with CivetWeb?  It's really easy!  You
> only need to implement a callback or two.
> 

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#400510 — Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-29 17:40 +0800
SubjectRe: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused)
Message-ID<dUjaS.17092$aXr.1351@fx18.ams4>
In reply to#400508
On 29/07/2026 5:27 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Nobody cares about CivetWeb a C++/C library,
> the rossy boy moron refuses to understand this
> simple GPU test, that shows some AI Acceleration:

I don't know about you, but I don't run my webserver on my GPU.  I use
it strictly for graphics.

-- 
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#400511 — Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Was: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 11:46 +0200
SubjectYour strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Was: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb)
Message-ID<114ci5f$k2b7$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400510
Hi,

Your strictness is your problem , not mine.
The WebGPU / WGSL has explicitly an API
for so called compute shaders.

You can also combine compute shaders and
render shaders. But to use compute shaders
for AI acceration is not uncommon now.

See the WebLLM project by OpenAI where a
transformer is just a WebGPU / WGSL
pipeline type:

WebLLM: High-Performance
In-Browser LLM Inference Engine
https://webllm.mlc.ai/

But I do not assume that everybody is
crawling out of under his rock. And trying
to understand what happens with post NVIDIA

Volta GPUs that come as mobile iGPUs.

Take your time.

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
> On 29/07/2026 5:27 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nobody cares about CivetWeb a C++/C library,
>> the rossy boy moron refuses to understand this
>> simple GPU test, that shows some AI Acceleration:
> 
> I don't know about you, but I don't run my webserver on my GPU.  I use
> it strictly for graphics.
> 

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#400513 — Graphics Processing with Fortran 77 (was: Re: Your strictness is your problem , not mine)

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-29 18:10 +0800
SubjectGraphics Processing with Fortran 77 (was: Re: Your strictness is your problem , not mine)
Message-ID<hkkaS.223$ZjVb.142@fx12.ams4>
In reply to#400511
On 29/07/2026 5:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Your strictness is your problem , not mine.
> The WebGPU / WGSL has explicitly an API
> for so called compute shaders.
> 
> You can also combine compute shaders and
> render shaders. But to use compute shaders
> for AI acceration is not uncommon now.

I know it's extremely common.  I just don't do it myself.

I don't even know what kind of GPU I have.  That's as much I care about
GPUs.  I only need my GPU to handle OpenGL 4.6.

Because we're in comp.lang.c, and I write my graphics in C, and not C++.
Nor Fortran 77, like my copy of /Digital Image Processing/ by Gonzales &
Woods.  Just take a look at page 127, and bask in the glory of the /Fast
Fourier Transform/ in Fortran 77.

That said, I kind of like classic Fortran, like 77, IV; and recently I
learned there was Fortran 66.  I either didn't know that, or just
completely forgot about it.


Happy C coding, or Fortran 77!
-- 
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#400514 — I am not in C, it is theory and C++ [Hybrid Approaches from KOAN/Fortran-S] (Was: Graphics Processing with Fortran 77)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 12:43 +0200
SubjectI am not in C, it is theory and C++ [Hybrid Approaches from KOAN/Fortran-S] (Was: Graphics Processing with Fortran 77)
Message-ID<114clga$jln7$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400513
Hi,

I am not in C, it is a theory and a C++
cross post. But I originally started elsewhere.
I am only reacting to a post that spilled

from C, theory and C++ back to else where,
since Rossy Boy extend the discussion.
Yes the FORTRAN reference is interesting!

See an older post of mine, where I tested
exactly the Queues idea, and where they
already mentiond hyprid approaches:

> Hi,
> 
> You see it all boils down to find your inner peace
> by an immaculate inception of some queue datatype.
> 
> KOAN/Fortran-S was an early 1990s research programming
> system for distributed-memory multiprocessors . Developed
> at ENS Lyon in the early 1990s . Often listed alongside
> other historical parallel programming efforts.
> 
> The Message Passing: The research explicitly
> compared the SVM approach against message passing
> on the same hardware . The finding was that SVM
> could achieve good performance without the low-level
> 
> complexity of managing explicit messages, though
> the best results often came from a hybrid approach (sic!)
> Here is an interesting baseline, from Java,
> a class ElevenSingle that only does:
> 
>     public static void run() {
>         for (int A = 1; A < 192; A++) {
>             int Y = (771-A)/3;
>             for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
>                 int Z = (771-A-B)/2;
>                 for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
>                     int D = 711-A-B-C;
>                     if (A*B*C == 711000000/D &&
>                           711000000 % D == 0)
>     System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+", C="+C+", D="+D);
>                 }
>             }
>         }
>     }
> 
> And then compare it to ElevenMulti, doing some
> Work Balancing Scheduler Tetris Game with 8 cores:
> 
> ElevenSingle
> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
> 6.628 ms
> 
> ElevenMulti
> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
> 1.941 ms
> 
> Not great, not terrible!
> 
> Bye 


Feel free to also do these more logic tiling
experiments than signal processing experiments.
I don't do signal process with pi-WAM.

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
> On 29/07/2026 5:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Your strictness is your problem , not mine.
>> The WebGPU / WGSL has explicitly an API
>> for so called compute shaders.
>>
>> You can also combine compute shaders and
>> render shaders. But to use compute shaders
>> for AI acceration is not uncommon now.
> 
> I know it's extremely common.  I just don't do it myself.
> 
> I don't even know what kind of GPU I have.  That's as much I care about
> GPUs.  I only need my GPU to handle OpenGL 4.6.
> 
> Because we're in comp.lang.c, and I write my graphics in C, and not C++.
> Nor Fortran 77, like my copy of /Digital Image Processing/ by Gonzales &
> Woods.  Just take a look at page 127, and bask in the glory of the /Fast
> Fourier Transform/ in Fortran 77.
> 
> That said, I kind of like classic Fortran, like 77, IV; and recently I
> learned there was Fortran 66.  I either didn't know that, or just
> completely forgot about it.
> 
> 
> Happy C coding, or Fortran 77!

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#400515 — Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: I am not in C, it is theory and C++)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 12:53 +0200
SubjectJava picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: I am not in C, it is theory and C++)
Message-ID<114cm45$jm45$1@solani.org>
In reply to#400514
Hi,

Small correction, the code below should use <=
in the for loops. But Java was extrem picky
concerning JIT-ing of the for loops, refuse

to JIT a <= based loop, so I rewrote a
corrected solution that matches:

7-11 cubic Solution by Pritchard & Gries
https://www.cs.cornell.edu/gries/TechReports/83-574.pdf

Into the following code:

     public static void run() {
         for (int A = 1; A < 193; A++) {
             int Y = (771-A)/3+1;
             for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
                 int Z = (771-A-B)/2+1;
                 for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
                     int D = 711-A-B-C;
                     if (A *B*C == 711000000/D && 711000000 % D == 0)
                         /* System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+", 
C="+C+", D="+D) */ ;
                 }
             }
         }
     }

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I am not in C, it is a theory and a C++
> cross post. But I originally started elsewhere.
> I am only reacting to a post that spilled
> 
> from C, theory and C++ back to else where,
> since Rossy Boy extend the discussion.
> Yes the FORTRAN reference is interesting!
> 
> See an older post of mine, where I tested
> exactly the Queues idea, and where they
> already mentiond hyprid approaches:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> You see it all boils down to find your inner peace
>> by an immaculate inception of some queue datatype.
>>
>> KOAN/Fortran-S was an early 1990s research programming
>> system for distributed-memory multiprocessors . Developed
>> at ENS Lyon in the early 1990s . Often listed alongside
>> other historical parallel programming efforts.
>>
>> The Message Passing: The research explicitly
>> compared the SVM approach against message passing
>> on the same hardware . The finding was that SVM
>> could achieve good performance without the low-level
>>
>> complexity of managing explicit messages, though
>> the best results often came from a hybrid approach (sic!)
>> Here is an interesting baseline, from Java,
>> a class ElevenSingle that only does:
>>
>>     public static void run() {
>>         for (int A = 1; A < 192; A++) {
>>             int Y = (771-A)/3;
>>             for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
>>                 int Z = (771-A-B)/2;
>>                 for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
>>                     int D = 711-A-B-C;
>>                     if (A*B*C == 711000000/D &&
>>                           711000000 % D == 0)
>>     System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+", C="+C+", D="+D);
>>                 }
>>             }
>>         }
>>     }
>>
>> And then compare it to ElevenMulti, doing some
>> Work Balancing Scheduler Tetris Game with 8 cores:
>>
>> ElevenSingle
>> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
>> 6.628 ms
>>
>> ElevenMulti
>> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
>> 1.941 ms
>>
>> Not great, not terrible!
>>
>> Bye 
> 
> 
> Feel free to also do these more logic tiling
> experiments than signal processing experiments.
> I don't do signal process with pi-WAM.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>> On 29/07/2026 5:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Your strictness is your problem , not mine.
>>> The WebGPU / WGSL has explicitly an API
>>> for so called compute shaders.
>>>
>>> You can also combine compute shaders and
>>> render shaders. But to use compute shaders
>>> for AI acceration is not uncommon now.
>>
>> I know it's extremely common.  I just don't do it myself.
>>
>> I don't even know what kind of GPU I have.  That's as much I care about
>> GPUs.  I only need my GPU to handle OpenGL 4.6.
>>
>> Because we're in comp.lang.c, and I write my graphics in C, and not C++.
>> Nor Fortran 77, like my copy of /Digital Image Processing/ by Gonzales &
>> Woods.  Just take a look at page 127, and bask in the glory of the /Fast
>> Fourier Transform/ in Fortran 77.
>>
>> That said, I kind of like classic Fortran, like 77, IV; and recently I
>> learned there was Fortran 66.  I either didn't know that, or just
>> completely forgot about it.
>>
>>
>> Happy C coding, or Fortran 77!
> 

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#400512 — Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 11:48 +0200
SubjectRun with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb)
Message-ID<114ci8i$k2b7$2@solani.org>
In reply to#400508
Hi,

Maybe there is a Rossy Boy flux generator
web server with infinity and continuity
HTTPS and .mjs type, aka SIMT halucination.

To run the GPU example that is written in HTML,
JavaScript and WebGPU / WGSL, the minium is
possibly a HTTPS server that can deliver the

right mime type for the .mjs extension. Its
then only a bundle of static pages that does
the demonstration. What worked on my side

is the IntelliJ browse button, which then uses
a small local server on its own, sandboxed to
serving some project files.

But this is only how to launch the test pages.

The Rossy Boy SIMT halucination, could also work, who knows?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Nobody cares about CivetWeb a C++/C library,
> the rossy boy moron refuses to understand this
> simple GPU test, that shows some AI Acceleration:
> 
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
> 
> Bye
> 
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>> On 29/07/2026 5:15 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
>>> not building a stupid web server, where
>>> a listener thread spawns service threads,
>>>
>>> and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
>>> a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
>>> The producer and consumer example I posted
>>>
>>> elsewhere archived a dataflow without
>>> malloc and free of threads. You are miles
>>> away from what we are doing here.
>>
>> Why not?  Isn't this comp.lang.c?  And isn't that exactly how
>> CivetWeb works internally?  Have you never built your own web
>> sever in C?  Not even with CivetWeb?  It's really easy!  You
>> only need to implement a callback or two.
>>
> 

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#400517 — Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 13:05 +0200
SubjectLamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type)
Message-ID<114cmq1$jmhc$3@solani.org>
In reply to#400512
Hi,

Why does this Lama have a red pyjama.
Oh, its a baby Lama. Its still in the cradle
and needs some training:

RedPajama-Data-v2
https://github.com/togethercomputer/RedPajama-Data

But then Andrej Karpathy recently showed
GPT-2 training on rented GPUs for less
than 100 USD in less then 2 hours.

So where do these grown up Lamas go.
Well Georgi Gerganov prefered C++/C
when he shouted Llama Llama Red Pyjama.

But you also find WebLLM, wrapping the
underlying C++/C GPU interface via the
W3C standard WebGPU / WGSL, with JavaScript:

In-Browser LLM Inference Engine
https://webllm.mlc.ai/

My experience with WebLLM 6 months
ago on an iPad Pro 2024, still a little early
stage performance and robustness.

But hey hardware of AI mobile iGPUs is
still evolving, and AI laptop, AI smartphones
and AI tablets, will soon feature Chinese

hardware such some new Kirin AI in 2027.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe there is a Rossy Boy flux generator
> web server with infinity and continuity
> HTTPS and .mjs type, aka SIMT halucination.
> 
> To run the GPU example that is written in HTML,
> JavaScript and WebGPU / WGSL, the minium is
> possibly a HTTPS server that can deliver the
> 
> right mime type for the .mjs extension. Its
> then only a bundle of static pages that does
> the demonstration. What worked on my side
> 
> is the IntelliJ browse button, which then uses
> a small local server on its own, sandboxed to
> serving some project files.
> 
> But this is only how to launch the test pages.
> 
> The Rossy Boy SIMT halucination, could also work, who knows?
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nobody cares about CivetWeb a C++/C library,
>> the rossy boy moron refuses to understand this
>> simple GPU test, that shows some AI Acceleration:
>>
>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>>> On 29/07/2026 5:15 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Confused rossy boy is confused. We are
>>>> not building a stupid web server, where
>>>> a listener thread spawns service threads,
>>>>
>>>> and to avoid malloc and free, reuses
>>>> a pool, or some shitty fork join framework.
>>>> The producer and consumer example I posted
>>>>
>>>> elsewhere archived a dataflow without
>>>> malloc and free of threads. You are miles
>>>> away from what we are doing here.
>>>
>>> Why not?  Isn't this comp.lang.c?  And isn't that exactly how
>>> CivetWeb works internally?  Have you never built your own web
>>> sever in C?  Not even with CivetWeb?  It's really easy!  You
>>> only need to implement a callback or two.
>>>
>>
> 

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