Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault

From	Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault
Date	2017-03-26 18:13 +0000
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On 2017-03-26, Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ike Naar to Anton Shepelev:
>
>> > Ike Naar:
>> >
>> > > In  mathematics,  it is not unusual for a con-
>> > > stant to appear on the left side of an equali-
>> > > ty.   See, for instance, Stephen Wolfram's web
>> > > page that lists  several  expansions  for  the
>> > > constant 'pi',
>> > >
>> > >    http://functions.wolfram.com/Constants/Pi/06/01/01
>> > >
>> > > Here's  an example from that page (paraphrased
>> > > because some mathematical symbols are hard  to
>> > > reproduce in plain text):
>> > >
>> > >    pi  =  4 * (Sum k : k >= 0 : (-1)^k / (2*k+1))
>> > >
>> > > Is this really more awkward than
>> > >
>> > >    4 * (Sum k : k >= 0 : (-1)^k / (2*k+1))  =  pi
>> > >
>> > > ?
>> >
>> > The  natural  arrangement has nothing to do with
>> > which side is a constant and which is  not,  but
>> > rather  with  which expression is the definition
>> > and which the thing defined.
>> >
>> > The first equality answers the question "How may
>> > Pi  be defined?" whereas the second "What is the
>> > sum of this infinite series?"
>> >
>> > Likewise, in C, "x == 3" is a question about  x,
>> > whether  it equals three, or a statment about x,
>> > that it equals three.  Expressing it as "3 == x"
>> > would  be  ridiculous  because  it  would seem a
>> > question or statment  about  the  number  three,
>> > whereas  it is the variable x that is the actual
>> > subject of our query.

"3 == x" is
1) a question about 3 (is it equal to x?),
2) a question about x (is it equal to 3?),
3) a question about 3 and x (are they equal?).
I would choose option 3 because it is the only option that
respects the symmetry of the == operator.

>> An equality is  not  a  definition.  If  it  were,
>> Stephen Wolfram's page would be listing 32 defini-
>> tions of pi. Wouldn't that be strange?
>
> No, multiple  definitions  of  the  same  thing  are
> ususal in calculus.
>
>> I  would  rather regard those equations as proper-
>> ties of pi, not as definitions.
>
> They are properties, yes, but that is a weak  state-
> ment, for they are more than them -- defintions, be-
> cause each equality defines the value of Pi.

Why does

    4 * (Sum k : k >= 0 : (-1)^k / (2*k+1))  =  pi

define the value of pi, and not, say, the value of 4 or the value
of -1 or any other constant appearing in the formula?

If it were rewritten as

    pi / (Sum k : k >= 0 : (-1)^k / (2*k+1))  =  4

would it still define the value of pi ?

I think that an equality does not define anything, it only asks
whether its left and right operand have equal values (or, alternatively,
states that its left and right operand have equal values).

If equalities are definitions, what would be defined by

    (a+b) * (a-b)  ==  (a*a) - (b*b)

?

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                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-23 16:39 -0600
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                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-23 16:33 -0600
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-03-23 20:45 -0400
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-24 10:01 +0000
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-03-24 09:27 -0400
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-24 13:53 +0000
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-03-24 10:32 -0400
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-24 14:42 +0000
                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-03-24 12:56 -0400
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              Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-03-23 21:14 +0000
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                Re: My C program does not compile or gives segmentation fault acidlategamer@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 12:48 -0700
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