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Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model

From Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model
Date 2014-04-20 22:18 +0000
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Message-ID <slrn3vfsll8htf.esa.ike@iceland.freeshell.org> (permalink)
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On 2014-04-20, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
> Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> writes:
>> On 2014-04-20, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>>> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
>>>> Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> writes:
> [...]
>>>>> Here it prints
>>>>>
>>>>> 0101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101
>>>>>
>>>>> The implementation is gcc version 4.5.3 (NetBSD nb2 20110806).
>>>>
>>>> Fascinating.  So there *are* modern implementations that have this
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> The relevant implementation is the C standard library, not the compiler.
>>>> BSD has its own C standard library implementation.  I wonder if Mac OSX
>>>> (which is based on BSD) has this problem.
>>>>
>>>> The man page
>>>>     http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?rand+3+NetBSD-current
>>>> doesn't mention this, apart from the NAME section:
>>>>
>>>>     rand, srand, rand_r -- bad random number generator
>>>
>>> I've grabbed a copy of source code for the NetBSD libc implementation of
>>> rand() and run the same test on it on some of my own systems (64-bit
>>> Linux Mint 14, 32-bit Ubuntu 12.10ish, and Cygwin on Windows 7), and I
>>> *didn't* see alternating 0 and 1 low-order bits.  I even examined all
>>> available versions from the NetBSD CVS repository (the history goes back
>>> to 1993), and I see no differences in the available history that would
>>> explain this behavior.  Obviously I'm missing something.
>>>
>>> Ike: What is "NetBSD nb2 20110806"?  The latest release of NetBSD is
>>> 6.1.4; how does it relate to that?
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> NetBSD iceland 6.1_STABLE NetBSD 6.1_STABLE (SDF6.amd64) #0: Tue Nov 26 12:49:14 UTC 2013  root@bjork:/spare/netbsd/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/SDF6.amd64 amd64
>
> Can you try running the code from my new GitHub project on your system?
>
> https://github.com/Keith-S-Thompson/crude_rand_test

Testing the low-order bits of the result of rand() from current implementation
0101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101
Low order bits alternate 0 and 1 (bad)

Testing the low-order bits of the result of rand() from ISO C sample implementation
0101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101
Low order bits alternate 0 and 1 (bad)

Testing the low-order bits of the result of rand() from NetBSD
0101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101
Low order bits alternate 0 and 1 (bad)

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Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyant@panda.goosenet.in> - 2014-04-10 23:38 +0530
  Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-10 13:30 -0700
    Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 00:34 +0530
      Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-11 12:25 -0700
      Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-16 01:12 +0530
        Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-04-16 01:33 +0100
          Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-16 17:57 +0530
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-16 06:00 -0700
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-16 10:58 -0400
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-16 09:07 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-16 12:22 -0400
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-16 10:38 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-16 19:37 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-17 12:00 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-17 09:32 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-04-17 12:24 +0100
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-17 08:16 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-17 04:41 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-04-17 07:49 -0500
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-17 08:00 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-17 15:06 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-18 21:04 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-17 18:38 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-17 15:26 -0400
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-04-17 21:00 +0100
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-17 16:34 -0400
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-18 04:31 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-17 14:05 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-17 17:06 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-18 04:54 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-18 11:51 -0700
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-17 11:42 +0530
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-04-16 16:54 +0100
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-16 15:22 -0700
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-17 13:03 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-17 08:44 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-17 12:12 -0400
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-18 12:38 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-18 03:11 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-18 12:32 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-18 10:05 -0400
        Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-16 07:10 +0000
        Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-17 13:10 -0400
          Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-18 18:24 +0530
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-18 09:52 -0400
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-18 20:04 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-18 11:00 -0400
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-20 01:49 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-19 21:20 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-20 11:11 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2014-04-20 09:06 -0400
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                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2014-04-21 09:14 -0700
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-19 05:43 +0000
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-18 19:47 +0530
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              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-20 14:24 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-21 10:40 +0530
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          Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-18 08:36 -0700
            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-18 13:40 -0400
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-18 11:14 -0700
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            Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-19 05:40 +0000
              Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-19 14:39 -0700
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                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-19 17:11 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-20 11:24 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-19 17:19 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-20 10:10 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-20 14:21 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-20 22:18 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-20 19:27 -0700
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-21 12:38 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-21 18:12 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2014-04-21 13:13 +0000
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2014-04-21 19:46 +0530
                Re: Request for source code review of simple Ising model Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-21 09:06 -0700
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