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| From | boltar@nowhere.co.uk |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: NIHS (Was: "Microsoft Exploring Rust as the Solution for |
| Date | 2019-12-05 12:51 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <qsaugb$ff8$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <qs3qep$qbe$1@dont-email.me> <4%SFF.3618$Tt1.1959@fx06.dcg> |
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 18:34:41 +0000 Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> wrote: >On 04/12/2019 16:53, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 14:32:37 +0100 >> Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de> wrote: >>> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote: >>>> In article <qs5e3e$91s$1@dont-email.me>, >>>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: >>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Not Invented Here Syndrome. >>>>> >>>>> Not /Controlled/ Here Syndrome. >>>>> >>>>> MS were quite happy to support Java as long as they could make their own >>>>> incompatible version. When the courts said they were not allowed to do >>>>> that (and still call it "Java"), they went off in a huff and made C# as >>>>> their own alternative to Java which /they/ controlled. >>>> >>>> Well, they controlled it because they had invented it. >>>> >>>> I don't think we really disagree much here. >>>> >>>> P.S. People often talk as if C# was invented by itself, as a standalone >>>> language. In fact, C# is just one member of the .NET/CLR family. I think >>>> of VB.NET as the primary .NET language. I suppose C# comes next after VB. >>>> >>> >>> Note that MS also made the integration of unmanaged C++ code into the >>> managed DotNet world very simple, something that is much harder to achieve >>> with Java (co-workers of mine constantly struggle with this, whereas I >>> enjoy the easy C++/CLI coding :-) >>> >>> IMHO, this makes C# more than just a Java clone. I have done three large >>> projects (> 100kLOC) with C++/C#, and I enjoyed it very much. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Stuart >>> >>> PS: I was lying a little bit. When my managed C++ libraries wouldn't load >>> because boost::thread uses TLS somewhere inside, I spent an awful great >> >> Boost? Ugh. The sooner that hideous bloatware buggers off down the same >rubbish >> chute as Roguewaves APIs did back in the 00s the better. There's been little >> good reason to use it since c++14 came out. > >That's because a good deal of boost is now part of C++; if boost was rubbish A good deal? Maybe 10%. >that wouldn't have happened, idiot. The average landfill has a few jems in it.
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