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Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1?

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1?
Date 2017-06-08 09:34 -0700
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Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
> DFS wrote:
>> int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *env[])
>> {
>>    printf("%d\n",sizeof(env)/sizeof(env[0]));

Should be "%zu\n", not "%d\n" -- or you could use "%d\n" and cast the
argument to int.

>>    return(0);
>> )
>> 
>> Output is 1.
>> 
>> Why?
>
> Given
>   char *env[];
> then
>   env is a pointer (to a pointer to char)
> and
>   env[0] is also a pointer (to a char)

`char *env[]` normally makes env an array of char* pointers, but because
it's a parameter declaration it's "adjusted" to become a pointer.

This:
    int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *env[])
is exactly equivalent to this:
    int main(int argc, char **argv, char **env)

Given a pointer to the initial element of an array, you can't
use sizeof to determine the number of elements in that array.
You can traverse the array elements to find the length *if* there's
a consistent convention marking the end of the array (typically a
null pointer for an array of pointers, or a null character for an
array of characters).

Incidentally, this declaration of main is not portable, but an
optional third "env" parameter is a common extension.

> Apparently, in your execution environment,
> a >>pointer to a pointer to char<< is the same size as a >>pointer to char<<
> and, thus, division of the size of one by the size of the other gives a 
> value of 1

In principle, it could still yield 1 if, for example, sizeof (char**)
== 6 and sizeof (char*) == 4.  But that detail in understanding
the semantics of this semantically incorrect code is less important
than fixing the code.

>> If I add:
>> 
>> while (*env) {printf("%s\n", *env++);}
>> 
>> it prints out all 65 of them.

Because it scans for the null pointer that conventionally marks the end
of the array.  If the program were invoked with an `env` data structure
that isn't properly terminated, you'd have undefined behavior.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 11:13 -0400
  Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-08 11:25 -0400
    Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-08 09:34 -0700
      Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 13:14 -0400
        Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-06-08 10:51 -0700
  Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 16:56 +0100
    Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 12:18 -0400
      Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-06-08 16:35 +0000
      Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-08 12:43 -0400
        Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 13:49 -0400
          Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-08 13:58 -0400
            Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 14:45 -0400
          Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-08 12:10 -0700
            Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-09 11:21 -0400
            Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-09 16:23 +0100
              Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-09 11:48 -0400
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-09 16:53 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-09 12:18 -0400
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-09 17:28 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-09 09:12 -0700
              Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-06-10 09:28 +0200
          Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? jak <please@nospam.tnx> - 2017-06-08 22:18 +0200
            Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-08 17:31 -0400
              Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-08 15:12 -0700
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-09 11:21 -0400
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-09 16:39 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 07:26 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-10 13:21 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? gordonb.q80bx@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-10 17:32 -0500
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-11 01:01 +0100
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 01:28 -0700
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-17 18:38 +0000
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-09 08:41 -0700
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-09 11:50 -0400
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-17 18:37 +0000
                Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-06-18 09:11 -0400
          Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-06-10 09:19 +0200
      Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-08 12:44 -0500
    Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-08 18:01 +0100
      Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 18:45 +0100
    Re: sizeof environment variables array = 1? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-08 11:51 -0700

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