Re: Hexadecimal float constants

From	Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Hexadecimal float constants
Date	2017-06-13 13:12 -0700
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supercat@casperkitty.com writes:
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> For what purposes would a compiler that cannot usefully process 0x1e-4
> more useful than one that processes it as three tokens?  The only "purpose"
> I can see that is served by forbidding such treatment is that it avoids
> the need to tell all the people who added extra code to their compilers
> for the purpose of rejecting that construct that they wasted their time
> on code that never served any useful purpose.

Suppose compiler A follows the standard and flags `0x1e-4` as
a constraint violation, while compiler B quietly treats it as
equivalent to `0x1e - 4`.

Personally, I prefer compiler A simply because it conforms to
the C standard.  I can use the standard as a reference for what
it will or will not accept, for features like this that are not
implementation-defined.

As a more practical matter, suppose I'm using compiler B, and for
whatever reason I write `0x1e-4` in my code.  The compiler will
not diagnose the error.  Months later, I or someone else tries to
compile my code using the conforming compiler A, and it's rejected.
I have to change the code, perhaps at considerable expense, to allow
for compiler B's non-conconformance.  I prefer errors to be caught
as early as possible.

If the ability to write 0x1e-4 is more important to you than
conformance to the C standard, then we have vastly different
priorities.

As for the "extra code", I would expect that the code that implements
the preprocessor simply follows the syntax of a PP-number, and
the code that implements translation phase 7 follows the syntax of
numeric constants.  And for most compilers, that work has already
been done.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

Thread

Hexadecimal float constants Steve Keller <keller@no.invalid> - 2017-06-12 18:34 +0200
  Re: Hexadecimal float constants "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-12 12:44 -0400
    Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-12 10:54 -0700
      Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-12 11:26 -0700
        Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-12 19:38 +0100
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-06-12 18:45 +0000
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-12 13:54 -0500
            Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-12 20:40 +0100
              Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-12 13:06 -0700
        Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-12 13:37 -0700
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-12 22:22 +0100
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-12 16:01 -0700
            Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-12 16:36 -0700
      Re: Hexadecimal float constants jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-06-12 12:39 -0700
  Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-12 18:42 +0100
  Re: Hexadecimal float constants Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2017-06-12 17:27 -0400
    Re: Hexadecimal float constants "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-12 18:03 -0400
      Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-12 23:31 +0100
        Re: Hexadecimal float constants Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-13 00:10 +0100
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-13 01:33 +0200
            Re: Hexadecimal float constants Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-13 01:10 +0100
      Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-12 16:01 -0700
        Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-12 17:00 -0700
          Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-13 07:51 -0700
            Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 09:17 -0700
              Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-13 17:45 +0100
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 11:58 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-13 12:57 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 13:01 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-13 22:11 +0100
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 14:22 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-13 17:43 -0400
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 14:48 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-13 23:03 +0100
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 01:30 +0200
              Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-13 12:24 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-13 21:52 +0200
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-13 13:12 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-13 16:18 -0700
                Re: Hexadecimal float constants Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2017-06-14 21:28 +0000
    Re: Hexadecimal float constants supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-12 15:21 -0700
    Re: Hexadecimal float constants Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2017-06-13 12:13 -0400

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