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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? |
| Date | 2015-11-18 09:08 -0800 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
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Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> writes:
> On 11/18/2015 11:26 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
[...]
>> Are you also using Cygwin?
>
> For the fooling around mentioned, yes. Armchair diagnosis
> suggests that Cygwin's headers are insufficiently armored with
> #ifdef and the like, and wind up usurping names that belong to
> the programmer.
>
> "Proper armoring" is no small matter, because the C Standard
> is often not the only governing document in play. When you're
> trying to follow the C Standard(s!) *and* a selection of POSIX
> standards *and* something from X-Open *and* Lord knows what else,
> the interactions and conflicts can be bafflingly baroque. It's my
> vague understanding that there are a few points on which the various
> standards are in direct conflict, some requiring what others forbid.
> The non-conformance of Cygwin's headers may not be due to sloppiness,
> but to the sheer impossibility of satisfying multiple masters.
I don't *think* that's the case. Certainly the maintainers of the POSIX
standard have been very careful to avoid conflicting with the C
standard.
I personally wish that all the POSIX-specific functionality had been
defined in headers other than the ones specified by ISO C, but there was
existing practice to consider.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <gmail@jamesdowallen.nospam> - 2015-11-18 12:01 +0000
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 07:52 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 05:14 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 08:26 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 11:44 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 09:08 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 08:31 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 08:25 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 11:58 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 15:14 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 17:48 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 21:06 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-19 08:23 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-19 21:45 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-20 12:55 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-20 03:27 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-21 20:40 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 10:09 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 10:18 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-22 18:35 +0000
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 13:10 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 13:57 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 13:02 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 16:15 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-23 06:33 -0500
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-23 12:17 +0000
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-23 21:09 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-22 12:34 -0800
Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 16:18 -0500
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