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Re: howmany -- What the F**k ?

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: howmany -- What the F**k ?
Date 2015-11-18 09:08 -0800
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Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> writes:
> On 11/18/2015 11:26 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
[...]
>> Are you also using Cygwin?
>
>      For the fooling around mentioned, yes.  Armchair diagnosis
> suggests that Cygwin's headers are insufficiently armored with
> #ifdef and the like, and wind up usurping names that belong to
> the programmer.
>
>      "Proper armoring" is no small matter, because the C Standard
> is often not the only governing document in play.  When you're
> trying to follow the C Standard(s!) *and* a selection of POSIX
> standards *and* something from X-Open *and* Lord knows what else,
> the interactions and conflicts can be bafflingly baroque.  It's my
> vague understanding that there are a few points on which the various
> standards are in direct conflict, some requiring what others forbid.
> The non-conformance of Cygwin's headers may not be due to sloppiness,
> but to the sheer impossibility of satisfying multiple masters.

I don't *think* that's the case.  Certainly the maintainers of the POSIX
standard have been very careful to avoid conflicting with the C
standard.

I personally wish that all the POSIX-specific functionality had been
defined in headers other than the ones specified by ISO C, but there was
existing practice to consider.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <gmail@jamesdowallen.nospam> - 2015-11-18 12:01 +0000
  Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 07:52 -0500
    Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 05:14 -0800
    Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 08:26 -0800
      Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 11:44 -0500
        Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 09:08 -0800
  Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 08:31 -0500
  Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-18 08:25 -0800
    Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 11:58 -0800
      Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-18 15:14 -0500
        Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 17:48 -0800
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 21:06 -0500
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-11-19 08:23 -0500
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-19 21:45 -0800
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-20 12:55 -0800
  Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-20 03:27 -0800
    Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-21 20:40 -0800
      Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 10:09 -0500
        Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 10:18 -0800
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-22 18:35 +0000
            Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 13:10 -0800
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 13:57 -0500
            Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-22 13:02 -0800
              Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 16:15 -0500
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-23 06:33 -0500
            Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-23 12:17 +0000
            Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-11-23 21:09 -0800
        Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-22 12:34 -0800
          Re: howmany -- What the F**k ? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 16:18 -0500

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