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Re: Getting started with AVR and C

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Getting started with AVR and C
Date 2012-11-29 12:36 -0800
Organization None to speak of
Message-ID <lnobig9me2.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <0.b3ca9d18d0528a0b5ff8.20121129011842GMT.871ufdtde5.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <JaGdnZ29kdH_XivNnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@web-ster.com> <k97ulf$jpg$3@reader1.panix.com> <k980sv$sh4$1@dont-email.me> <b4gfb81ihafctck2bu6a3o24trpvo0ug8h@4ax.com>

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upsidedown@downunder.com writes:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:01:34 -0500, James Kuyper
> <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>On 11/29/2012 10:23 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> On 2012-11-29, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
>
>>> ...  Trying to impliment
>>> any sort of communications protocol with that was fun.
>
> Using left/right shifts and AND and OR operations work just fine.
> Works OK with different CHAR_BIT and different endianness platforms.
> Do not try to use structs etc.
>
>>Thanks for that information. Claims have frequently been made on
>>comp.lang.c that, while the C standard allows CHAR_BIT != 8, the
>>existence of such implementations is a myth. I'm glad to have a specific
>>counter example to cite.
>
> IMHO CHAR_BIT = 21 is the correct way to handle the Unicode range.
>
> On the Unicode list, I even suggested packing three 21 characters into
> a single 64 bit data word as UTF-64 :-)

I like it -- but it breaks as soon as they add U+200000 or higher, and
I'm not aware of any guarantee that they won't.

I've thought of UTF-24, encoding each character in 3 octets; that's
good for up to 16,777,216 distinct code points.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
    Will write code for food.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-11-25 04:18 +0700
  Re: Getting started with AVR and C Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2012-11-24 17:09 -0500
  Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-24 22:12 +0000
    statement / expression contexts in C Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-11-28 12:54 +0700
    Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-11-28 13:37 +0700
      Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-28 14:49 +0000
      Re: Getting started with AVR and C Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2012-11-28 17:53 +0000
        Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-28 18:05 +0000
          Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 12:56 -0600
            Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-28 21:45 +0000
              Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 15:55 -0600
              Re: Getting started with AVR and C David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-11-29 01:35 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2012-11-29 01:47 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-11-29 09:24 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-29 01:18 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 20:07 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 15:23 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 11:01 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 19:19 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 14:32 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-11-29 11:44 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-29 21:23 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-11-29 18:15 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C upsidedown@downunder.com - 2012-11-29 22:17 +0200
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-11-29 12:36 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-11-29 16:22 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-11-29 18:36 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2012-12-11 10:53 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2012-12-11 14:53 +0000
                Unicode Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-14 23:25 +0700
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2012-12-15 14:30 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-15 12:24 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2012-12-15 18:02 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-15 15:45 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2012-12-16 22:55 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-16 23:20 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-17 12:27 +0200
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2012-12-17 11:17 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-12-17 14:07 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-12-16 03:28 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C upsidedown@downunder.com - 2012-12-16 10:40 +0200
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-29 02:31 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-29 03:36 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-29 03:55 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-11-29 09:37 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-29 11:31 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-11-29 13:44 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2012-11-29 13:22 +0100
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-29 13:32 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-11-29 11:28 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-29 13:20 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 09:07 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 09:17 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-11-29 18:25 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 22:46 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-11-30 11:47 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-12-17 03:53 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-11-29 11:38 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 15:21 -0500
            Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-28 22:26 +0000
              Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 17:32 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-28 19:02 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 18:29 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-28 23:39 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2012-11-29 00:59 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 07:57 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-29 13:02 -0600
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 15:19 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-29 12:03 +0200
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-11-29 11:39 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-29 08:04 -0500
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 15:17 +0000
            Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 19:19 -0600
              Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-28 23:44 -0500
        Re: Getting started with AVR and C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-28 13:15 -0500
          Re: Getting started with AVR and C Arlet Ottens <usenet+5@c-scape.nl> - 2012-11-28 19:17 +0100
            Re: Getting started with AVR and C Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-11-28 19:30 -0600
              Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 15:29 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2012-11-29 16:36 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C upsidedown@downunder.com - 2012-11-29 22:40 +0200
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-11-29 13:55 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 22:06 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-11-29 14:22 -0800
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-29 21:59 +0000
                Re: Getting started with AVR and C John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2012-11-30 08:29 +0000
  Re: Getting started with AVR and C Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-25 05:41 -0800
  Re: Getting started with AVR and C Rosario1903 <Rosario@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-27 10:21 +0100

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