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Re: just curious:Equel

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From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
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Subject Re: just curious:Equel
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Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>> On 02/09/2015 16:12, Rick C.  Hodgin wrote:
>>
>>> What are "C objects?"
>>
>> 3.14 says:  "region of data storage in the execution environment, the
>> contents of which can represent
>> values".
>>
>> For example, in this program:
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>>   int i;
>>   for(i = 0; i < 10; i++)
>>   {
>>     printf("%d\n", i);
>>   }
>>   return 0;
>> }
>>
>> i is an object.  [snip]
>
> i is an identifier.  In this function definition the identifier i
> refers to an object (and may refer to more than one, for a
> function that might have multiple instantiations), but its
> an abuse of teminology to say i is an object.

Tim is a sequence of three ASCII characters.  Tim is a name.
Is it an "abuse of terminology" to say that Tim is a person?

The C standard routinely refers to objects by their names.  The first
example I happened to run across is in N1570 6.7.2.1p20 (an example)
which refers to "the object pointed to by p".  Clearly an identifier
does not point to an object; equally clearly, when the standard says
"p", it means "the pointer object whose name is the identifier p".

Things have names precisely so we can refer to them by those names.
We can add clarifying wording when it's necessary to avoid confusion
(for example to distinguish between you and someone else named Tim);
there is no such need in this case.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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just curious:Equel G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:37 -0700
  Re: just curious:Equel James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 09:56 -0400
    Re: just curious:Equel Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-02 16:03 +0100
      Re: just curious:Equel "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:12 -0700
        Re: just curious:Equel gordonb.d8f7l@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-09-02 11:09 -0500
        Re: just curious:Equel Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-02 17:27 +0100
          Re: just curious:Equel "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 09:36 -0700
            Re: just curious:Equel Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-02 17:57 +0100
              Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-02 21:48 +0100
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 13:29 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 17:09 -0400
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 12:56 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 10:57 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-07 19:29 +0000
                Re: just curious:Equel James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-07 15:49 -0400
                Re: just curious:Equel Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-10 16:44 +0000
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-07 23:12 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:35 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-09 10:22 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 10:21 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-11 12:06 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 17:53 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-26 16:17 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-10-01 12:53 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 18:00 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-10-01 12:51 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-23 22:18 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 10:08 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-24 10:23 +0100
                Re: just curious:Equel Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-24 10:28 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-24 19:56 +0100
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-26 16:16 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 08:18 +0200
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-26 16:10 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-27 11:40 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-29 10:03 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 13:25 -0700
                Re: just curious:Equel Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2015-09-07 09:14 +0000
          Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 15:44 -0700
            Re: just curious:Equel Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-06 17:27 -0700
              Re: just curious:Equel Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-08 10:49 -0700
      Re: just curious:Equel James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 11:49 -0400
        Re: just curious:Equel Jay Braun <lyngwyst@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:02 -0700
          Re: just curious:Equel "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:08 -0700
            Re: just curious:Equel G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:10 -0700
  Re: just curious:Equel Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-02 21:30 +0100
    Re: just curious:Equel "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:37 -0700
      Re: just curious:Equel Jay Braun <lyngwyst@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:44 -0700
        Re: just curious:Equel "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:52 -0700
    Re: just curious:Equel G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:07 -0700
    Re: just curious:Equel Andreas Perstinger <andipersti@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 08:49 +0000
      Re: just curious:Equel Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-03 10:47 +0100
  Re: just curious:Equel G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:17 -0700

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