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Re: better atoi

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: better atoi
Date 2017-02-12 11:54 -0800
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BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 12/02/2017 19:15, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> On 12/02/2017 17:44, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> It's useful to have a copy for reference however. Like the
>>>> dictionary, 99% of it you probably won't read, but still needs to be
>>>> there.
>>>
>>> Yes, so that most compilers can ignore it! Apparently:
>>>
>>>    int;
>>>
>>> is illegal according to the grammar. Yes out of six compilers I tried,
>>> three don't consider that an error, while one just gives a warning.
>>
>> So four out of the six compilers you tried correctly diagosed the error
>
> 3 didn't say anything about it (no error or warning)
> 1 gave a warning
> 2 gave an error
>
> That's one out of three that took it seriously.

If a diagnostic is a non-fatal warning, then you say that the compiler
doesn't consider it an error.  I disagree; as has been said many times,
a non-fatal warning is a valid diagnostic for an error.

So 3 out of 6 correctly diagnosed the error, 2 fatally and 1
non-fatally.

The other three compilers are non-conforming *in the mode in which you
invoked them*.  Can you make them conforming with appropriate options?

> It's not the most serious error, as adding that to a program and then 
> having it ignored will do nothing. But that would mean you can write any 
> old rubbish in program. It should be diagnosed because probably 
> something is wrong.

If you invoke a compiler *in conforming mode*, you can't get away with
writting "any old rubbish".

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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  Re: better atoi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-10 14:48 -0700
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      Re: better atoi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-10 22:36 -0700
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                Re: better atoi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-11 18:53 -0700
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                Re: better atoi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-11 18:48 -0700
                Re: better atoi Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-12 02:16 +0000
                Re: better atoi "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-12 09:57 -0500
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                Re: better atoi jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-02-12 08:44 -0800
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                Re: better atoi Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-12 09:44 -0800
                Re: better atoi BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-12 18:32 +0000
                Re: better atoi Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-12 18:56 +0000
                Re: better atoi BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-12 19:18 +0000
                Re: better atoi Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-13 00:16 +0000
                Re: better atoi BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-13 01:56 +0000
                Re: better atoi Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-13 10:44 +0000
                Re: better atoi BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-13 11:38 +0000
                Re: better atoi Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-13 14:37 +0000
                Re: better atoi BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-13 15:00 +0000
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      Re: better atoi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-10 22:26 -0700
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