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Re: High quality resources for learning modern C?

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: High quality resources for learning modern C?
Date 2017-06-05 12:23 -0700
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David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> The standard, as written, seems too strict about what character
> means what.

In what way is it too strict?  What would be the advantage of making it
less so?

>             But anyone could write a pre-pre-processor that 
> converts any set of "tokens" into C form provided the two sets
> of token corresponded one-to-one.
>
> Like translating the keywords into another language.

Translating characters is already done in translation phase 1:

    Physical source file multibyte characters are mapped, in an
    implementation-defined manner, to the source character set
    (introducing new-line characters for end-of-line indicators) if
    necessary.

(In many implementations, that translation is trivial.)  Translating
tokens is another matter.  If an implementation translates "si" to
"if", what happens if I use "si" as an identifier?

I am admittedly fortunate in that most language keywords happen to be
in, or are derived from, my native language.  I wonder how much demand
there really is among non-English programmers for non-English keywords.
(I've seen at least one language with Portuguese keywords, but it seems
to be a niche language.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
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High quality resources for learning modern C? Leon Taylor <leontaylor476@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 04:44 -0700
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