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Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C?

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C?
Date 2018-03-01 11:22 -0800
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supercat@casperkitty.com writes:
[...]
> Also, as a general matter of philosophy, if most platforms could practically
> support a behavior, and there any significant quantity of code would benefit
> from it, what disadvantage would there be to defining the behavior for all
> implementations that do not pre-define macro STDC_NO_whatever, but not
> imposing any requirements on implementations that do define that macro?

Clutter.

How many such behaviors should the standard define?  How many
optional __STD_NO_whatever__ macros would have to be predefined?
By how many pages would the standard have to expand in order to
define the semantics of all these optional features?

You should start collecting all your ideas for changes to the
standard and put them all together in one place.  Start a blog,
or create a GitHub repo, or whatever.  I don't suggest that this
would make it likely that they'd be adopted, but vague complaints
posted to a newsgroup, interspersed with accusations about the
motivations of committee members and gcc maintainers, aren't going
to get anything done.

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? lee@ansync.com - 2018-02-15 17:20 -0800
  Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2018-02-15 22:15 -0500
    Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-16 08:44 -0800
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-02-16 11:47 -0800
        Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-16 13:00 -0800
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-19 12:25 -0800
        Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-19 13:21 -0800
          Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2018-02-19 15:26 -0600
          Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-19 13:59 -0800
            Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-19 14:38 -0800
              Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-19 15:21 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-19 15:59 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-19 17:11 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-02-20 09:17 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-20 07:58 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-02-20 18:21 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-20 09:25 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-20 11:52 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-20 22:27 -0500
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-20 23:07 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2018-02-21 14:07 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-21 09:02 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-21 09:50 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-21 12:46 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-21 13:09 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-21 15:15 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-21 15:51 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-21 17:06 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-21 17:46 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 00:18 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-21 22:14 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-21 11:39 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-21 14:59 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-21 22:14 -0500
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 00:50 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-22 07:22 -0500
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 12:40 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-22 13:00 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 13:48 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-02-22 22:14 +0000
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-21 23:05 -0800
          Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-21 23:39 -0800
            Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-22 10:39 -0800
              Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 13:20 -0800
              Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2018-02-23 00:30 -0800
    Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2018-02-16 20:05 +0100
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? lee@ansync.com - 2018-02-16 11:14 -0800
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-19 11:30 -0800
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 09:01 -0800
  Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-19 11:08 -0800
    Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-19 17:16 -0800
      Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-21 23:16 -0800
        Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-22 00:25 -0800
          Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-22 07:41 -0500
          Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-02-24 13:24 -0800
            Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-25 12:07 -0800
              Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-25 18:34 -0500
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-26 08:21 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-02-26 22:22 -0500
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-02-27 09:16 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-27 08:48 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-02-28 10:24 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-28 09:03 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-02-28 22:31 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-28 15:19 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-01 12:37 +0100
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-01 11:03 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-01 11:22 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 11:48 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 15:11 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 16:14 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 19:53 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 21:27 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 00:52 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 01:54 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 06:11 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-01 12:31 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-01 13:15 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 14:55 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-03 02:19 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 03:03 -0800
              Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-02-25 15:36 -0800
                Re: Opinion sought: Is this strictly conforming C? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-02-26 10:17 -0800

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