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Re: strncpy and 'n'

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jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) writes:
> In article <lnhayjbz2a.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>,
> Keith Thompson  <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>>My complaint is that strncpy() is in the standard library
>>with the name "strncpy", and that too many programmers use it
>>incorrectly.
>
> I think i agree on naming.  For example, 'strncpyz' zeros out the
> buffer, 'strncpyu' can leave it without a terminator (the default is
> less surprising), 'strncpyzu' does both.  The zero seems harmless, at
> worst it runs slower, at best it runs faster.
>
> But 'strcpy' doesn't give us much guidance here.
>
> It *can't* zero out the buffer, because it doesn't know the buffer size.

It doesn't bother to zero out the buffer, because that's rarely a useful
thing to do.  If you want to zero a buffer, use memset().

> It *can't* decide to leave out the terminator, because it doesn't know
> the buffer size.

It doesn't leave out the terminator because it *needs* to store the
terminator in order for the destination to be a valid string.

>                   It can't avoid trashing your memory, for same reason.

It's up to the caller to avoid trashing memory by ensuring that the
destination is big enough to hold the data to be copied into it.
(Admittedly strcpy() doesn't make this easy.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
    Will write code for food.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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strncpy and 'n' nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 09:05 -0800
  Re: strncpy and 'n' Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-16 18:57 +0100
    Re: strncpy and 'n' "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-02-16 19:27 +0100
      Re: strncpy and 'n' Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-02-16 19:34 +0100
        Re: strncpy and 'n' "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-02-16 20:58 +0100
  Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-16 10:01 -0800
    Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-16 11:10 -0800
      Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-16 14:20 -0800
        Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-17 04:19 -0800
          Re: strncpy and 'n' James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-17 10:04 -0500
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-17 10:27 -0800
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-17 11:22 -0800
              Re: strncpy and 'n' James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-17 14:40 -0500
                Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-18 02:17 -0800
    Re: strncpy and 'n' jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-19 20:04 +0000
      Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-19 12:33 -0800
        Re: strncpy and 'n' jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-20 21:25 +0000
          Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-20 14:46 -0800
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-02-23 23:13 +0000
              Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-23 16:20 -0800
              Re: strncpy and 'n' Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2012-02-25 00:26 -0800
              Re: strncpy and 'n' pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2012-02-26 01:34 +0000
                Re: strncpy and 'n' Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-02-28 22:46 +0000
                Re: strncpy and 'n' jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-01 00:03 +0000
                Re: strncpy and 'n' Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-03-01 12:03 +0000
          Re: strncpy and 'n' James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-20 17:51 -0500
        Re: strncpy and 'n' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 18:14 -0500
          Re: strncpy and 'n' pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-20 23:16 -0500
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-25 01:51 -0500
              Re: strncpy and 'n' pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-25 10:34 -0500
        Re: strncpy and 'n' Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-02-20 19:09 -0500
          Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-20 16:46 -0800
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-02-20 20:48 -0500
          Re: strncpy and 'n' Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 19:46 -0500
        Re: strncpy and 'n' jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-21 21:46 +0000
          Re: strncpy and 'n' James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-21 17:15 -0500
          Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-21 14:29 -0800
            Re: strncpy and 'n' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-22 01:15 -0800
            Re: strncpy and 'n' jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-23 00:02 +0000
              Re: strncpy and 'n' Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-22 17:02 -0800
  Re: strncpy and 'n' Markus Schaub <usenet@markus-schaub.de> - 2012-02-16 18:53 +0000
  Re: strncpy and 'n' lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-02-16 13:25 -0500
  Re: strncpy and 'n' blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2012-02-16 11:18 -0800
  Re: strncpy and 'n' Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-02-16 13:29 -0600
    Re: strncpy and 'n' Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-02-16 22:45 +0000
  Re: strncpy and 'n' ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 11:32 -0800
  Re: strncpy and 'n' Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-17 00:50 -0800

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