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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: code snippet |
| Date | 2011-12-23 12:10 -0800 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <ln39cb2gmq.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <slrnjf6ocv.1rti.usenet-nospam@guild.seebs.net> <jcvrjq$feg$1@dont-email.me> <jcvvvd$j97$1@speranza.aioe.org> <4ef43690$0$1377$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <jd2438$1ld$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> As a somewhat related oddity, here is a talk by Guy Steele himself[1]. In
> it, he discusses some techniques he employed to write a couple of programs,
> along with some optimization tricks he employed. Among those, he refers in
> some parts how he reduced the program size by using the value of some
> opcodes as constants. I doubt that today's compiler writers implement these
> sort of tricks. This means that mr Steele's code is better than the
> equivalent code which might be generated by a compiler. But the thing is,
> not everyone is as proficient at it as mr Steele, or even close to it, which
> brings us back to the assertion I've made.
>
> [1] http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Thinking-Parallel-Programming
It would be better in the sense that it's *faster*. It would
probably not be very maintainable (by anyone other than Dr. Steele).
Imagine modifying the code when the value of one of those constants
needs to change.
A great benefit of automatically generated code, such as the assembly
or machine code generated by a compiler, is that it doesn't *have*
to be maintained. All the work that went into optimizing it can
be thrown away and re-done, perhaps very differently, in a matter
of moments.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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Re: code snippet Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-12-22 21:57 +0000
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Re: code snippet 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-06 04:30 -0800
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Re: code snippet jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-12-22 18:26 +0100
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Re: code snippet "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-12-23 12:26 +0000
Re: code snippet jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-12-23 18:32 +0100
Re: code snippet Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-28 04:04 -0800
Re: code snippet "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-12-23 09:10 +0100
Re: code snippet 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-25 11:13 -0800
Re: code snippet Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-12-25 19:31 +0000
Re: code snippet Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-12-26 21:53 +0000
Re: code snippet 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-26 16:10 -0800
Re: code snippet Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-12-26 18:11 -0800
Re: code snippet 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-26 23:56 -0800
Re: code snippet "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-12-20 15:57 -0500
Re: code snippet Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-12-21 12:39 +0000
Re: code snippet Bill Reid <hormelfree@gmail.com> - 2011-12-22 15:29 -0800
Re: code snippet Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-19 19:19 -0800
Re: code snippet "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-12-20 13:51 -0500
Re: code snippet Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-20 11:08 -0800
Re: code snippet Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-12-19 11:37 +0000
Re: code snippet "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-12-19 16:38 -0500
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Re: code snippet "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-12-19 17:21 -0500
Re: code snippet John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-12-19 22:35 +0000
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