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Re: What a stupid gcc!

From Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: What a stupid gcc!
Date 2012-06-19 01:48 +0000
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> writes:
>I've snipped all the context because I don't think you address the issue
>where variables are declared.  But I do want to comment...

>> I'd think the argument works the other way.  Back when C was
>> new the other dominant language was FORTRAN.  Later came both
>> Basic, Algol, and Cobol.  All were strongly typed languages.

>Cobol was massive long before C came along, and Algol dates from the
>1950s.  Basic is a little younger than Algol, but it was around in the
>1960s and was riding a wave caused by the boom in microprocessors
>(admittedly in a dizzying array of dialects) when most people started to
>became aware of C.

>> Of these only C survives to any major extent, proving, it seems
>> to me, that it was the most *successful* of these languages. 
>> Indeed, it also shows that perhaps in spite of its strong typing,
>> it has held up under the barrage of "new" languages. 

>I would not say that C has strong typing.  It added typing to its
>predecessor (B) but it did so in such a way that the types rules are
>deliberately easy to break or circumvent.

True.  I've always thought of that as a "fall out" of being
"close to the hardware", whatever that means.

-- 
   --- Paul J. Gans

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What a stupid gcc! zgene <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-06-13 21:41 +0000
  Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 18:01 -0400
    Re: What a stupid gcc! Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-06-14 13:00 +0200
      Re: What a stupid gcc! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-06-14 14:33 +0200
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 14:46 +0100
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-06-14 18:19 +0200
  Re: What a stupid gcc! Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-06-13 18:06 -0400
  Re: What a stupid gcc! jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-06-13 22:19 +0000
    Re: What a stupid gcc! Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 09:47 +0100
      Re: What a stupid gcc! Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 14:37 +0100
  Re: What a stupid gcc! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-06-13 17:05 -0600
  Re: What a stupid gcc! Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2012-06-14 00:09 +0000
  Re: What a stupid gcc! Varun Tewari <tewari.varun@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 03:14 -0700
    Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-14 06:56 -0400
    Re: What a stupid gcc! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-06-17 07:18 +0000
      Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-17 11:47 +0100
        Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-17 09:31 -0400
          Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-18 12:34 +0100
            Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-18 08:18 -0400
              Re: What a stupid gcc! gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 05:42 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-18 09:39 -0400
              Re: What a stupid gcc! Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-06-18 09:06 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 07:18 -0700
            Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-19 00:13 -0700
              Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 11:28 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 07:30 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-20 00:16 -0700
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-17 15:52 +0100
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Noob <root@localhost> - 2012-06-18 09:07 +0200
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-06-18 09:03 +0000
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2012-06-18 16:02 +0000
          Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-18 19:40 +0100
            Re: What a stupid gcc! Noob <root@localhost> - 2012-06-18 23:52 +0200
            Re: What a stupid gcc! Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-18 23:09 +0000
              Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 01:30 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-19 13:03 +1200
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 06:34 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-19 08:43 +0000
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 11:00 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 07:05 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-19 23:21 +1200
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-19 23:22 +1200
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-19 13:45 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 15:23 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-19 16:14 +0000
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 18:01 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 13:59 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-06-19 15:29 -0600
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-19 18:22 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-19 21:13 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-06-19 16:27 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 16:38 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-20 09:47 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-19 22:44 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-21 01:39 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-21 10:55 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-21 04:11 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-21 12:36 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-06-21 15:33 +0200
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2012-06-21 14:15 +0000
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-20 09:37 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-20 14:54 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-20 18:19 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-21 00:13 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-21 02:09 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-21 02:05 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-21 11:49 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-21 14:24 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-22 00:38 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-21 01:57 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-21 11:46 +0100
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-21 14:37 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2012-06-21 19:38 +0000
                Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-21 01:41 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-21 12:28 +0100
              Re: What a stupid gcc! Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-06-19 15:05 +0000
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-19 09:37 +1200
          Re: What a stupid gcc! ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 15:18 -0700
          Re: What a stupid gcc! Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> - 2012-06-18 23:21 +0000
            Re: What a stupid gcc! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-19 11:26 +1200
              Re: What a stupid gcc! Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> - 2012-06-19 01:46 +0000
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 07:19 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-06-19 08:01 -0500
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 09:25 -0400
                Re: What a stupid gcc! Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-19 12:57 -0500
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-19 14:59 -0400
            Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-19 01:36 +0100
              Re: What a stupid gcc! Paul J Gans <gansno@panix.com> - 2012-06-19 01:48 +0000
          Re: What a stupid gcc! Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-18 19:50 -0500
          Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-19 00:19 -0700
            Re: What a stupid gcc! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-19 12:56 +0100
              Re: What a stupid gcc! nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-20 00:26 -0700
                Re: What a stupid gcc! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-20 06:31 -0400
      Re: What a stupid gcc! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-06-18 00:18 -0600
        Re: What a stupid gcc! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-06-18 09:15 +0000
  Re: What a stupid gcc! Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-06-14 23:21 +0000

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