Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards

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On 2021-07-08 at 10:21, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> In comp.lang.c++ Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> wrote:
>> I have managed to find direct links to the official standard and they
>> are here:
>>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1336.pdf>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1256.pdf>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1124.pdf>
> 
> Note that something being directly available for download, even if it's
> hosted at the IP owners' own servers, doesn't make it somehow automatically
> legal to download if the documents are under a commercial license.
> Making something available without technical barriers is not in itself
> any sort of implicit free license.
> 
> (I don't know if those documents are commercial. Merely pointing out
> that fact.)
> 

I am not a lawyer :-), but these papers are not official ISO documents, 
so no commercial license.

Especially humorous is n1256. ISO official documents are the C99 
official standard, plus three separate corrigenda - TC1, TC2, and TC3. 
ISO never published a "corrected" standard, just these four separate 
documents.

In preparation for the C11 work, the committee then produced a "working 
draft" with the TCs applied to the C99 standard. You need to have a base 
document, right? And arguably a lot better than the official one, as the 
bugs have been removed.

However, ISO never published this intermediate version, only the 
completed C11 standard.

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[ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:00 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 01:20 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 03:53 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-08 02:30 +0000
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-07 20:34 -0700
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 09:18 +0200
      Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-08 00:57 -0700
        Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 12:07 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:18 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-09 03:41 +0100
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-08 08:46 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-07-08 08:21 +0000
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2021-07-08 10:31 +0200
    Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2021-07-08 12:19 +0200
  Re: [ OT ] C - Open Standards Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2021-07-10 19:47 -0300

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