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Re: One works, the other doesn't?

From Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: One works, the other doesn't?
Date 2019-11-09 09:22 +1300
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On 08/11/2019 11:35, Bart wrote:
> On 07/11/2019 21:28, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 08/11/2019 10:20, Bart wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2019 20:21, Ian Collins wrote:
> 
>>>> That wouldn't scale very well to a large project, would it?
>>>
>>> Probably not to 3000 files, although I don't know how big they are,
>>> maybe they're only 10 lines each.
>>>
>>> But plenty of programs are smaller. Should we forget about simple
>>> solutions to building most software because a few projects are huge?
>>
>> For many, a simple makefile is a simple solution!
> 
> If I type 'make', it says "'make' is not recognised as an internal or
> external command". That's a good start! No, it hardly ever works me and
> something always seems to go wrong.

Ah the joys of Windows...

>>> Also I'm not in charge of your project. I probably wouldn't have 3000
>>> normal-sized modules forming one monolithic executable. I'd split it
>>> into into independent libraries, and use as much scripting as possible.
>>
>> For an embedded system?  Yeah right!
> 
> If it's powerful enough to run programs with 3000 modules (although I
> still don't know the total line count), then why not? I started adding
> scripting to my applications around 1985 I think. Is your device less
> powerful than a mid-80s PC?

No, but it runs ever more complex real-time machine controls for ever 
more complex machines...

>     We do use independent libraries,
>> lots of them but doesn't that go against your whole-project compilation?
> 
> Whole-project is rather a misnomer, it's just that my projects now are
> single executables. As I said in an earlier post, I use a compilation
> unit of one .exe or .dll (or one byte-code file for dynamic code),
> rather than one module.

That's more manageable if your libraries are small enough.  It's still 
more time efficient to compile individual sources files, especially if 
you are optimising.

>> The size and complexity of the code is governed by the size and
>> complexity of the problem it is solving.
> 
> It seems to me that a lot of software expands to fit the resources
> available. 

Ours expands to meet ever changing and growing market expectations.

-- 
Ian.

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One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-03 17:39 -0500
  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-04 00:20 +0000
  Re: One works, the other doesn't? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-04 06:53 +0000
  Re: One works, the other doesn't? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-11-04 09:45 -0500
    Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 10:34 -0500
      Re: One works, the other doesn't? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-11-05 07:45 -0800
        Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 10:53 -0500
          Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-05 08:04 -0800
            Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-05 11:29 -0500
              Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-05 23:24 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-05 23:06 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:31 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-05 23:43 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:54 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 01:35 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-06 15:16 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 11:11 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 01:59 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 11:35 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 08:57 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:24 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 22:59 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 14:37 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 00:58 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-07 02:08 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 15:43 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-11-07 16:15 -0600
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-10 20:01 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-11 15:26 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-11 12:37 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:21 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 10:39 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 07:47 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-07 08:14 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 12:30 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-08 21:04 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-09 01:37 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-09 01:38 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-10 08:32 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 16:09 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-29 11:33 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-11-30 14:20 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-01 12:15 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 10:07 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 10:58 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 10:05 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 09:52 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 00:56 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-06 01:00 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 11:32 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-06 23:11 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-06 23:22 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 01:04 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 01:13 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 10:22 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 11:51 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 15:58 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 16:34 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-11-07 12:40 -0500
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 17:57 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-07 21:14 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-08 09:45 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-08 09:56 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-08 19:47 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-09 09:14 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-08 19:10 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-09 12:24 +0000
                Like an old married couple... (Was: One works, the other doesn't?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-11-08 20:25 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-07 19:58 +0100
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 19:31 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 08:56 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 20:06 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 09:21 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 21:20 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-08 10:28 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-11-07 22:35 +0000
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-09 09:22 +1300
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 08:37 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-11-07 08:52 -0800
                Re: One works, the other doesn't? jadill33@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 09:52 -0800
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          Re: One works, the other doesn't? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-11-06 09:33 -0500
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        Re: One works, the other doesn't? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-11-07 12:19 +0000
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              Re: One works, the other doesn't? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2019-11-20 10:54 +0100
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