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"Ben Bacarisse" wrrote:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>
>> "glen herrmannsfeldt" wrote:
>>
>>> comp.lang.c-the-whole-c-and-nothing-but-c
>>>
>>> Is # legal in a newsgroup name?
>>>
>>> If I remember right, the PL/I group is named comp.lang.pl1 because
>>> comp.lang.pl/i isn't allowed.
>>
>> Since addresses start out with http://  it is pretty obvious that a
>> name containing '/' is going to lead to problems.
>
> You mean URLs I think.  But why should / be a problem?  They occur in
> URLs all the time.  And if they were a problem (for some reason), URLs
> have an "escape" mechanism to permit pretty much any character to be
> represented.
>
> What's more, the naming of groups pre-dates the URL notation, so
> comp.lang.pl/1 would not have been excluded on that basis.  In fact it
> is not excluded.  The prohibited characters are control codes, and those
> in the C string " !()*,?@[\\]" though I think that was formalised rather
> late.
>
>> in file names and suchlike my choice for "punctuation belongs here" is
>> '%'.  As near as I know it is bulletproof.
>
> Well % is not bulletproof in URLs.  In fact it introduces the escape
> sequence I referred to.

I should know better than to try to be brief on this group.

My point was that '/' is often used in the "biz", in general to have a 
special meaning and is best avoided.  I try to take notes when there is an 
occasional useful nugget, part of the process is to change the subject of 
the message to something meaningful to *me*.  The (renamed) subject becomes 
a file name, and that character is a bad choice on my machine. I would say 
the '/' is used in many meta-languages except that would trigger a flurry of 
messages about what a meta language is.

I will note that my news server, one of the better ones, lists exactly zero 
groups for names containing either '/' or '\'.

I didn't know there was an escape mechanism for URLs, thanks for that.  I 
doubt, however, that people who actually chose URLs have a URL maven at 
their elbow.

I have zero interest in saying anything further on this subject or any 
vaguely related similar subject. 

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