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Re: template metaprogramming in C?

From	Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: template metaprogramming in C?
Date	2012-03-25 15:03 +1300
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On 03/25/12 02:29 PM, William Ahern wrote:
> Nobody<nobody@nowhere.com>  wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 11:57:11 +0000, Rui Maciel wrote:
>
>>> What are your thoughts on adding a standard form of proper template
>>> metaprogramming to the C programming language?
>
>> My first thought is "If you want C++, you know where to find it".
>
>> C++ already has templates and is almost a strict superset of C. What would
>> be gained from adding templates to C, compared to just using C++? It's not
>> as if C++ forces you to use OOP or exceptions.
>
> No, but it forces you to cast too much (a tremendous irony given
> Stroustrup's stated design goal),

In idiomatic C++, casts are hardly ever used.

> doesn't have designated initializers, doesn't have compound literals,

True, designated initialisers are a surprising omission in the latest 
C++ standard.

> implicitiy typedefs structure definitions,

A good thing!

> and several other issues commonly encountered. And that was just compared to
> C99. It's a long shot from "almost a strict superset of C".

Unfortunately the two are drifting further apart.

> If you're limiting yourself to a common denominator syntax of C and C++,
> then you're missing out on much of what each language uniquely has to offer.

Very true.

-- 
Ian Collins

Thread

template metaprogramming in C? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:57 +0000
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-24 07:25 -0700
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2012-03-26 11:46 +0200
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2012-03-27 21:09 +0200
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2012-03-28 09:25 +0200
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-28 06:59 -0400
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-28 12:13 -0700
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-01 02:47 -0700
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-03-24 18:01 +0100
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-03-24 22:57 +0000
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-03-24 18:29 -0700
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 15:03 +1300
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-25 05:32 -0700
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 17:02 -0700
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-25 01:21 +0100
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2012-03-27 21:17 +0200
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-28 11:10 +0200
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? Nils M Holm <news2009@t3x.org> - 2012-03-28 10:05 +0000
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-03-28 13:36 +0000
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? Nils M Holm <news2009@t3x.org> - 2012-03-28 14:40 +0000
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-28 18:32 +0000
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-28 22:27 +0200
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-28 21:02 +0000
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-03-29 16:30 +0100
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-29 23:39 +0200
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-03-29 23:36 +0100
              Re: template metaprogramming in C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-30 00:55 +0000
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-30 00:32 +0000
              Re: template metaprogramming in C? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-03-30 10:52 +0100
                Re: template metaprogramming in C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-04-01 09:36 +0200
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-30 16:32 +1300
              Re: template metaprogramming in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-31 01:52 -0700
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-03-28 08:48 -0700
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-04-05 12:18 +0200
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-04-05 13:08 +0200
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-04-05 13:36 +0200
            Re: template metaprogramming in C? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-04-06 18:43 -0400
              Re: template metaprogramming in C? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-04-06 19:20 -0400
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-04-05 13:08 +0200
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-03-24 19:01 -0700
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-03-24 19:10 -0700
  Re: template metaprogramming in C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 15:25 +1300
    Re: template metaprogramming in C? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 15:13 +0100
      Re: template metaprogramming in C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-26 07:10 +1300
        Re: template metaprogramming in C? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 20:31 +0100
          Re: template metaprogramming in C? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-26 00:54 -0700

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