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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer |
| Date | 2011-11-05 13:55 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <9hjfsuF62fU8@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <j91pd9$rp5$1@news.albasani.net> <9hj8a6F62fU4@mid.individual.net> <j91slr$2ho$1@news.albasani.net> <9hjc6jF62fU7@mid.individual.net> <j91vir$8bl$1@news.albasani.net> |
On 11/ 5/11 01:21 PM, BGB wrote: > On 11/4/2011 4:52 PM, Ian Collins wrote: >> On 11/ 5/11 12:31 PM, BGB wrote: >>> On 11/4/2011 3:46 PM, Ian Collins wrote: >>>> On 11/ 5/11 11:36 AM, BGB wrote: >>>>> On 11/4/2011 11:01 AM, Robert Wessel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> For the vast majority of users, PC effectively aren't programmable >>>>>> either - almost all software run on 95% of PCs is written by a "few" >>>>>> people who then run off "millions" of units. >>>>> >>>>> but, there are lots more programmers on the PC, like just how many >>>>> people are involved in the creation of typical desktop software >>>>> (such as >>>>> an OS, web-browser, of office suite). >>>> >>>> So what minute fraction of 1% of those programmers are writing (or even >>>> know how to write) in assembler? >>>> >>> >>> who knows exactly?... >> >> So "lots of people" is a small number. >> > > but what is to say it is any smaller than the number of people writing > ARM assembler?... Who knows? But I'd wager there are more people writing ARM assembler simply because it's popular in embedded platforms and many of these run OS free. But even there, the number will be getting smaller. I'm designing an ARM based module at the moment and I can all but guarantee I won't have to write any assembler. > most cases, if one is developing on ARM, it is also in C or C++ or similar. Quite. In a hosted environment, the choice of language is broader still. >>> but, at least parts of both Linux and FireFox are written in >>> assembler... (although the vast majority of this is C, or a mix of C and >>> C++ in the case of FF). >> >> Very small parts, parts that need to access machine registers. The only >> x86 bits assembler I've ever had to write are low level scheduling >> primitives. > > most "pure ASM" stuff I did was related to things like bootloaders and > entry-points for kernels and processes (or "crt0 stubs" or whatever they > are best called). As I said, very small parts. Not may of us have to dabble at that level. >>> I guess the question would be to determine just how many people >>> in-general use ASM/native-code this was... >> >> Hardly any. > > maybe so. > > then again, by a similar notion "hardly anyone" makes use of eval > either, but it is fairly usedful, when needed, in languages which have it... True, but at least eval uses the same language! -- Ian Collins
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Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 07:05 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-31 07:38 -0700
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Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Frederick Williams <freddywilliams@btinternet.com> - 2011-10-31 17:55 +0000
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Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-01 14:23 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-02 07:41 +1300
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 15:43 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-04 07:07 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-04 08:30 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-04 09:13 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-06 21:50 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-04 16:37 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-04 13:01 -0500
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-04 11:27 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-04 15:36 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-05 11:46 +1300
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-04 16:31 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-05 12:52 +1300
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-04 17:21 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-05 13:55 +1300
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-04 23:23 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-05 04:21 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-11-06 07:40 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-11-06 09:35 +0100
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-06 16:34 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-06 12:47 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-05 00:31 +0000
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-05 02:29 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-10-31 13:03 -0700
Re: Looking for experienced C/C++ / ASM programmer jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2011-11-04 13:12 +0000
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