Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.c > #395747

Re: is_binary_file()

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: is_binary_file()
Date 2025-12-09 15:42 -0800
Organization None to speak of
Message-ID <87cy4ngr24.fsf@example.invalid> (permalink)
References <10gvvh8$1vv6e$1@dont-email.me> <10h2t5s$3m1kg$1@paganini.bofh.team> <10h7402$9q1e$6@dont-email.me> <10h76ag$att7$1@dont-email.me> <10h9uo1$127kq$1@dont-email.me>

Show all headers | View raw


Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> writes:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 18:44:33 +0000, bart wrote: 
>> It's not clear what the actual problem is. What is the use-case 
>> for a  function that tells you whether any file /might/ be a 
>> text-file based on  speculative analysis of its contents?   Is 
>> the result /meant/ to be fuzzy? 
> 
> Hey bart. 
> 
> What I mean is that since I have not yet defined a canonical 
> standard for my program, the goal here (to determine if my code 
> can parse the file) is unclear. 
> 
> It means I need to plan much more *before* I write more code, no 
> mean feat when one is excited & ready to jump in =) 
 
You say you want to parse the file.  That implies that you expect 
the file to have a certain format/syntax, and for parsing to fail 
on a file that doesn't satisfy the syntax.   In that case, I 
speculate that determining whether the file is text or binary is 
not useful.  The way to determine whether you can parse it is 
simply to try to parse it, and see whether that succeeds or fails. 
For example, if I want to parse a file containing a C translation 
unit, I can feed it to a C compiler (or just a parser if I have 
one).  If the file contains non-text bytes, that's just a special 
case of a syntactically incorrect input, and the parser will 
detect it.  It should work similarly for whatever format you're 
trying to parse.  I doubt that you need to distinguish between 
incorrect input that's pure text and incorrect input that's 
"binary".   If I'm right about this (which is by no means 
certain), you could have saved a lot of time by telling us up 
front *why* you want to distinguish between "text" and "binary" 
files.   On the other hand, I've seized on the word "parse", and I 
may be reading too much into it. 

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

Back to comp.lang.c | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-06 01:05 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-12-06 01:41 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-12-06 02:00 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 17:40 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 11:35 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-10 15:07 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 19:00 +0200
            Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-10 17:18 +0000
              Re: is_binary_file() Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-10 19:42 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-10 22:37 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-10 22:35 -0500
                Re: is_binary_file() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-11 11:46 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 12:53 +0100
          Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 18:42 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-12-10 15:58 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 18:44 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-10 12:46 -0500
          Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 18:45 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 18:41 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 20:57 +0000
            Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-10 22:07 +0000
              Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-11 01:09 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-11 12:33 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-12 19:25 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-12 22:54 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 15:33 -0800
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-13 00:20 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-13 02:32 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-16 00:26 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 17:24 +0100
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-17 03:19 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 07:57 +0100
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-17 19:35 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-18 08:44 +0100
                Re: is_binary_file() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-18 12:49 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-18 14:06 +0100
                Re: is_binary_file() gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-12-18 13:17 +0000
                Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-18 16:03 +0100
  Re: is_binary_file() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 17:42 -0800
    Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 17:37 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-06 16:05 -0800
      Re: is_binary_file() Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-12-07 03:43 -0700
        Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 16:47 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 03:18 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 17:46 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2025-12-06 02:42 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-06 12:42 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 17:40 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-12-06 18:04 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 19:06 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-12-06 21:16 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 17:48 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2025-12-08 19:26 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-08 19:42 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-09 21:49 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-06 03:14 -0500
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 17:56 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-08 20:16 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-09 09:03 +0100
          Re: is_binary_file() Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-09 09:43 +0000
            Re: is_binary_file() Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:17 +0000
              Re: is_binary_file() Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2025-12-09 20:15 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:22 +0100
            Re: is_binary_file() Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 20:26 -0500
          Re: is_binary_file() Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 06:38 -0500
            Re: is_binary_file() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 17:31 +0200
            Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 02:49 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 00:12 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2025-12-28 00:43 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 17:33 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 19:04 +0100
  Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-06 20:37 -0500
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-09 16:29 -0500
      Re: is_binary_file() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 11:21 +0200
        Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-10 12:48 -0500
      Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 11:38 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-07 03:43 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 18:04 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-08 18:44 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-09 19:53 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 15:42 -0800
            Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 11:41 +0000
              Re: is_binary_file() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 15:20 -0800
                Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-10 23:59 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-09 16:23 -0500
  Re: is_binary_file() Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:01 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-07 21:51 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:49 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 13:51 +0100
        Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-08 16:04 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 19:27 +0100
        Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 05:51 +0000
          Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 16:06 +0100
            Re: is_binary_file() mjos_examine <m6502x64@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 11:49 -0500
              Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 20:49 +0100
            Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:52 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-08 16:02 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 18:07 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 03:13 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-27 01:28 -0500
        Re: is_binary_file() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:27 +0000
        Re: is_binary_file() antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-28 05:46 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 14:42 -0800
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-08 18:09 +0000
      Re: is_binary_file() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 12:45 -0800
  Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 20:36 +0100
    Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 20:50 +0100
      Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 15:09 +0100
    Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 09:18 +0100
  Re: is_binary_file() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 14:43 -0800
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-09 21:38 +0000
  Re: is_binary_file() Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2025-12-11 17:33 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 19:10 +0100
    Re: is_binary_file() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 14:56 -0800
    Re: is_binary_file() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-11 18:15 -0500
    Re: is_binary_file() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-12 02:19 +0100
    Re: is_binary_file() Michael Sanders <porkchop@invalid.foo> - 2025-12-14 08:27 +0000
    Re: is_binary_file() Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 00:52 -0600

csiph-web